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The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

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I don't think they're necessarily weaker pup, 2 blotters of 150mic al-lad left me running round with my underpants on my head barely able to see across the room for the exploding visuals.

They are definately different to LSD tho - I think al-lad headspace is a bit more confusing than LSD, particularly at higher doses. But then again you arn't laid awake for 16 hours unable to get to fucking sleep like you are on LSD. You pays your money you takes yer choice.
 
yeah, and 2 is more
much more than 1
and way more than 1/2 or less.

we actually agree
 
Is there any chance that the second synth is weaker/less consistant? The ones I had from the first synth seemed stronger....dunno.
 
checking in with a brief report about 2 recent AL-LAD experiences, both times I took 1 of the "al-lad" printed blotters that are going around.
I am very experienced with psychedelics and have tried most of the common phenethylamine and tryptamine compounds that have been on the market over the past decade.

My first AL-LAD experience was at a small dance party. I started with half a blotter to be safe and see how it affected me but after I felt the first effects at 1 hour I could tell I should take the other half. The effects are hard to describe because it feels a little like acid but different. If nobody had told me what it was and I just got AL-LAD on unmarked blotter, I might think that it was weaker acid and then been confused by the much shorter duration. First impressions are that it is much more chill and less ego-threatening, I didn't feel at all spun out or manic. I missed that electric feeling and I'm wondering if the trade-off of a more mentally clear experience is worth it or not. Rather sensual and lethargic but I danced without stopping for an hour, got really into the music and dancing with my wife; time went in non-linear leaps. No stomach discomfort, some neck and jaw tension but nowhere near as much as with LSD. Music sounded great but wasn't especially enhanced.

This might sound like a kind of meh review, but to be clear I think AL-LAD is fantastic. I'm just not yet quite sure why I think this.

The second time I took it was while hanging out with a few friends who were getting very stoned. I don't smoke and nobody else wanted any AL-LAD but it was really chill to be in the AL-LAD headspace around non-tripping people. A similar situation with acid might have had me second-guessing myself or feeling too weird and awkward with non-tripping people. In this situation I felt pretty confident and not much more impaired than my super baked friends and wife. I laughed a lot, some of it that kind of deep lysergic laughter that I can sink into and get lost inside.

Both times I took AL-LAD, I could sleep 8 hours after ingestion pretty comfortably and woke up feeling very blissed out, peaceful and after-glowy.
Next time I am going to up the dose to 1.5 blotters.

Based on these 2 experiences, I might prefer acid for going out and partying. It was nice to be chilling with friends and get to take in the full spectrum of the sometimes-subtle effects that were less pronounced in a loud dance party type environment.
 
i always need 1.5 blotters- first trip was underwhelming mentally and slightly visually and all have been great since 1.5. same shit every time. new batch and old

i wait months between trips

ymmv
 
You guys think that the summer heat may degrade the sealed compound whilst traveling to its destination? This may also be why some are experiencing lesser than expected experiences?
 
packaged in dark airtight bags they can endure temperature shifts with no problem, probably ok up to 100degC
 
^^^what makes you choose 100 deg C?
the melting point of LSD is 80-85 C (from wiki), so it's probably similar for AL-LAD. i suppose melting a crystalline solid to a liquid won't necessarily degrade the compound...but it's not something i'd want to happen to my precious psychedelics.

luckily, i don't know of many places where temperatures can reach 100 deg C :)
 
porkstock said:
^^^what makes you choose 100 deg C?
the melting point of LSD is 80-85 C (from wiki), so it's probably similar for AL-LAD. i suppose melting a crystalline solid to a liquid won't necessarily degrade the compound...but it's not something i'd want to happen to my precious psychedelics.

luckily, i don't know of many places where temperatures can reach 100 deg C :)
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Melting point of LSD tartrate; 198-200 C https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_chemistry.shtml Wiki must have given the MP of the base.
No, the heat won't have much effect as long as it stays dry and shielded from light.
 
Third difficult/not great experience with AL-LAD at 150 mcg. I think we are fundamentally incompatible with each other, which is very sad. Each experience has been very similar to the last, with a distinct feeling of all visual disturbance/anxiety and a manic feeling that lacks depth and introspection.
 
I am finding it's first taste to be delicious (only 75mics 1/2 to start) yum
 
Yeah it is a perfect one. I hope the UK ban doesn't spell the end to it's production and distribution. If it doesn't find a new legal home, I wonder if it will circulate on the black market, or if it will just become a legend.
 
I took 150mcs yesterday for the first time and wow, I'm surprised that the majority claim this one to be easy going, It was crazy introspective for me. I went into a semi-manic state re-living lots of past memories, good and bad. In the end it was refreshing, but I wasn't expecting so much mental activity at one blotter. There were LSD like visuals, definately shared the same full color spectrum... but at this dose the visuals were very subtle compared to what was going on in my head. Good stuff, but this goes into the "serious introspection" pile in my psychedelic collection. Can't wait to dose a bit higher in a better setting prepared to work through some shit, there's not too many RC's that give me a run for my money headspace wise so it's good to add another to the repertoire.
 
I got more effects from 300 mcg of AL-LAD than I did from what was supposedly 500 mcg of LSD from the darknet. Granted, it wasn't really very enjoyable, kind of frightening at the most intense part and quite a lot of bodyload and tremors, but the air was filled with fine lines of visuals whereas I got very little visuals from the LSD for some reason. I only got the LSD from one vendor so it might just not be that good, but others have said it's high quality in the forum of the darknet site. Some others also complained of lack of visuals though. Buying AL-LAD is probably more dependable than buying LSD, since all those blotters apparently come from the same source and are professionally made, I would think. Who else could get those printed heavy gauge blotter papers? I should probably buy some more AL-LAD while it's still readily available. Not that flush with cash right now though so I'll have to put it off awhile.
 
tasha_yar said:
Third difficult/not great experience with AL-LAD at 150 mcg. I think we are fundamentally incompatible with each other, which is very sad. Each experience has been very similar to the last, with a distinct feeling of all visual disturbance/anxiety and a manic feeling that lacks depth and introspection.
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perhaps a tiny benzo dose?
 
will trying al lad after a small dosage of mephedrone / a cathinone relative have any contradictions? im feeling fine but i obviously dont wanna taint this experience, i have had less than 50mg nasally, feel ok, dont know how i will feel in a few hours but want my trip to be fun and enjoy the experience , i told my friend this wud be a bad idea to try al lad for the first time after this but he doesnt understand.

leave it another day (which will be hard to get together) or go for it tonight? i dnt think its a good idea already and im getting this anxious feeling and i hate it, i doubt al lad will rid me of my anxiety, was feeling fine ten minutes ago but it seems to be hitting a little harder now, aint had any stims since tomorrowland a few weeks back, havn't tried a trip in a long time, few months since last dmt trip vapourised
 
Bare_head said:
will trying al lad after a small dosage of mephedrone / a cathinone relative have any contradictions? im feeling fine but i obviously dont wanna taint this experience, i have had less than 50mg nasally, feel ok, dont know how i will feel in a few hours but want my trip to be fun and enjoy the experience , i told my friend this wud be a bad idea to try al lad for the first time after this but he doesnt understand.

leave it another day (which will be hard to get together) or go for it tonight? i dnt think its a good idea already and im getting this anxious feeling and i hate it, i doubt al lad will rid me of my anxiety, was feeling fine ten minutes ago but it seems to be hitting a little harder now, aint had any stims since tomorrowland a few weeks back, havn't tried a trip in a long time, few months since last dmt trip vapourised
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IMHO using psychedelics in such mind state is not a good idea. Personally i would leave al-lad for a little and use it clear headed. Good luck.
 
Anyone ever felt sedated on al-lad? It definitely was AL-LAD but in addition to the normal effects I felt as if I had taken a lot of benzos.
 
I need to test it out more but I wouldn't say it was sedating for me. More mellow and less stimulating than LSD tho. I found it to be a very nice energy level, Goldilocks zone: not too much not too little.
 
I tried 150 mics. last night after a huge fight with my son, girlfriend and her son...sometimes I like a negative setting for introspection of the immediate problem.
Anyway it was actually very nice...I haven't done LSD in30+ years so I can't do a very accurate comparison, but it definitely felt LSDish as far as I remember.
I didn't get much "work" done on it, but it didn't take me to a bad place either.
So, all in all a good trip.
Someone mention it being sedating, it was fairly sedating for me too... not so much sedating as it was not "speedy". I took it at 9 or 10 last night and was asleep by 3 in the morning.
I took 6-8 grams of Maeng Da Kratom a couple of hours before I dosed...I hadn't planned to dose till the fight happened...so the Kratom may have affected the trip too, IDK.
Next time I'll try 300 mics...
Oh, patched things up with Son and others a couple or three hours after I'd dosed...so, all in all, it was a positive experience.
 
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