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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

thanks a lot for that link transform, very interesting!!

IggiBizzle: the one I got fairly recently is also as you describe, white, very little to no smell. taste is quite bitter though.


I was reading through this thread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/407429-Mega-Harm-protection-supplements

as I understand it there are some supplements like the some of the Mao inhibitors that are included to prevent dopamine being used instead of serotonin (thus producing neurotoxicity). but I was wondering if that would apply in any degree to 6apb considering it acts as a triple monoamine reuptake inhibitor?
 
Jesusgreen said:
Has anyone else had some crazily potent 6-APB lately? Purchased 500mg last weekend, looked a little less based on my experience with the powder but I purchased it at the bar I was drinking at from a friend and didn't fancy the trek home for scales - split the entire amount between 6 people, one person didn't feel the effects (only had a tiny lick) but all 5 others rolled crazy hard, one said it was her most euphoric drug experience to date, another said it was one of his best, two others were real fucked up and me.. Well I was also on 1mg Buprenorphine so it was also my most euphoric experience to date.


I can't see it having been another drug though it felt identical to 6-APB just far far stronger than normal. Was one of the best nights of my life :)
:)

(ps don't jump into batch discussion with this, I'm commenting on the overall synthesis purity, since I've never tried any 6-APB that was this strong before, and asking if anyone else noticed a similarity - NOT for you to comment on individual batches and such please! :))
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Hi jesus, just a guess but in all fairness it might not me that far from the truth, might it have been 5-MABP? Have had a batch recently and 80mg was on par with a +150mg 6-apb roll, I too had a lower dose opiates in my system atm and rolled superhard as you and had one of the top nights of my life. Afain, just a thought. But the effects were indeed VERY similar to a full on 6-apb trip,

Br//complexdc:)
 
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Transform said:
Nope, I see no reason why there would be a problematic interaction from therapeutic doses of lyrica. The sedative effects may counter the stimulant effects a bit but there's nothing you wouldn't expect.
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This right here is the truth, for those prone to crash after a roll the lyrica pretty much kills any such symptoms.
6-apb/lyrica is one of me personal top 3 mixes ever after all these years. Pointless info but yer welcome. Enjoy that apb folks!

//complexdc
 
complexdc said:
Hi jesus, just a guess but in all fairness it might not me that far from the truth, might it have been 5-MABP?
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I think this batch was around before 5-MAPB announced. A crazy potent batch I have (sounds similar to all recent reports) *has* been tested / confirmed to be *an* APB (via GC/MS). Furthermore, I imagine that 5-MAPB should have a positive Simons test; this batch tested negative.

The speculation I've heard is that this latest batch to go around was a HCl salt vs. the fumarate, which would explain some of the potency kick. I have no idea how one could verify this though.
 
Yes, is it possible this was 5-APB which is known to be more potent? Many more difficult mistakes have been made in the past, these two are pretty easily confused by every spectroscopic method, label, structure diagram etc. A slip in the naming at any stage could go unnoticed through the chain.
 
Ok,ok,thought I remembered MABP being out the early part of december so thought why not :)
You're probably totally correct about everything in your post so nevermind me:)

Br!
 
It could certainly be 5-APB; A friend had his 6-APB tested in lab and the result was: 95 % 5-APB. And it was sold as 6-APB by an online vendor.
 
5-APB HCl certainly has a lot more oomph mg for mg than the 6-APB succinate available up to now, it's a pushier stim all round, 6-APB HCl has finally come available UK from a couple of vendors I think now at last and that's expected to be a lot more potent weight by weight than the previously available succinate stuff too. Only had 5-MAPB once but don't think I would confuse it with 6-APB's tripper headspace, and it's more of a straightforward stimulant than even the 5-APB HCl I've had a coupla times recently I think.
 
Transform said:
Yes, is it possible this was 5-APB which is known to be more potent? Many more difficult mistakes have been made in the past, these two are pretty easily confused by every spectroscopic method, label, structure diagram etc. A slip in the naming at any stage could go unnoticed through the chain.
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That's actually possible; my assumption of this being 6 was entirely based on the mushroom-like thoughtspace (and lack of stim push) that this compound had, which was consistent with previous reports indicating that 6-APB was more psychedelic. Unfortunately I don't think GC/MS can distinguish between 5-APB and 6-APB very easily. Maybe 1H NMR could, but I'd have to find a lab with that. :/
 
Everyone knocking low doses -- I don't know if it's my batch or me (I'm not a tiny person), but 70mg was perfect for seeing a show in NYC this past weekend. Almost zero nausea, more like an annoying awareness of my stomach. Euphoria, empathy, danced my ass off for a couple of hours! Only downside was I still grounded my jaw like a motherfucker. Man did that hurt! And I was lacking energy the next day but no serious hangover.

I may consider seeing what 75 or 80mg is like the next time, but this really hit the spot (8
 
Quick report:
t:0.00 - empty stomach, oral gel-cap of 200mgs - looked & smelled like the usual, different vendor
t:0.20 - surprised to feel nauseous on 6APB - then vomiting.
t:0.20-2.00 -more empathic, no euphoria as expected. Probably depleted serotonin
t:2.00-4.00 - nicely warm, sweating slightly, chewing gum to ease the jaw tension, not terribly energised, but definitely energy.
t:4.00-12.00 - long slow come-down, eyes stay dilated, nothing good about this but slight energy
t:12.00 - takes a total of 3 zopiclone to get me into a poor sleeping state. Tired next day, but don't get the expected shits.

don't know if this is poor quality, but very likely I'm overdoing it. Looking for alternatives while keeping this stash in the freezer.
 
My experiences with 6APB, please comment and critique im very curious what your opinions are as I believe I have access to a reliable source with top notch 6apb. Ive noticed very little side effects compaired to some people in europe (USA here).

I discovered 6apb about a month ago and it has totally revolutionized my life. I used to love mdma but the magic seems to have been lost and i feel into a deep depression. Since then i am on zoloft and unable to achieve any feeling from mdma. Then i tried 6apb it was very very magical. Ive since turned my friends, family, neighbors, hell even adults onto it lol they fucking love it. We all noticed the same general roll patterns esp when coming up. 6apb takes roughly 1hr, peaks from 2-3hours. Its like this for all of us, and also half of us are on some SSRI, and we still roll (only side effect is less visuals/eye wiggles). I keep reading people that throw up and stuff its very mind boggling my friends and I have had zero complaints about that. Only stomach discomfort came and went for about 10 minutes in.



Odd things noticed about 6apb, what are anybodies opinions on the following?
It seems to be body weight sensitive. IE, females can get a great experience off of 100mg to get great visuals, guys are more around 180mg for like a 175-200lb male.

-Stomach discomfort almost seems to be able to be thought away, if you dont think about it or convince yourself your stomach is just fine it gets way better. Also Ginger is a very safe easy way to feel better.
-The insomnia kind of sucks, however I found that listening to youtube sleep hypnosis knocks me out very fast....
-Driving probably shouldnt be reccomended but feels like your driving a space ship lol
-zero depression, regular life just seems very boring in contrast.
-Vicks vapor rub seems to be able to give me almost full body orgasms, my friends and i notice we seem to get lost in it.
-While i very much enjoy it and everything about it, it seems that sometimes on the comedown my brain wants to do everything at once yet nothing at all.
-My brother and i suffer from bad anxiety, we notice with 6apb we have zero anxiety... if a little tinge of it comes you can literally just say to yourself everythigns fine and continue enjoying your night.
-Time goes by super fucking slow. I had a 6apb party lol and from T1.15 - T2.00 seemed like 6 hours for all of us lol. However, I noticed if i am on it for more than 36 hours towards the end time goes by very very fast.
- Nobody can tell when im on it except other people that are rolling can tell by the way i touch things and my eyes darting around. Coworkers ect.
- Dont go to a movie theatre it seems extremely fucking long, i watched a thriller... i kept trying to figure out how the killer in the movies thought process worked with no success lol....

ok.... my experience with combinations and 6apb + ......
kratom/opiates - greatly enhances euphoria, closest feeling to classic mdma roll
dxm (had a legit cold) - enhances the visuals and trippyness of 6apb, feels like floating in a sparkly wonderland
MXE - Holy fuck be careful of your dosages lol, took 35mg orally and went to the bathroom as it kicked in. Was on toilet looking at towel rack, the rack looked like a concert hall and the little tiles on the floor seemed like tiny little rooms. headspace feels incredibly floaty and almost like i am in outerspace. The 6apb makes the visuals and mood feel like your on an alien space ship. While driving depth perception was very very very distorted. DO NOT DRIVE ON THIS COMBO I ALMOST CRASHED LOL
Benzos - can sometimes take away from the roll a little bit, however they do give you an amazingly warm and comfortable experience.
Piracetam/racetams - Enhance the whole general roll alot, it takes like 2/3 6apb dose to feel almost the same
Antihistamines (diphenhydramine/doxylamine) - doesnt really make you drowsy but almost like a happy lazy feeling
Psuedoephedrine - makes your head space feel extremely clean, thinking becomes almost effortless (i suspect this time of year my allergies may be interfering with general consciousness)
MDAI - didnt really do shit, i felt almost tired. pretty sure due to me being on an ssri and molecular weight the methlenedioxy doesnt stand a chance like taking an ssri on mdma
Methylphenadite - makes what little side effects rediculously strong, especially cotton mouth like a beast. I would caution everybody to seriously try to avoid water intoxication.
SNRI (Effexor) - i havent done this, but friends who take it daily I noticed had zero problems sleeping.... noteworthy

Wow, that was alot but I think my experiences are fairly normal... almost all my friends notice pretty much the exact same. Please comment, thanks =) Lastly: Chemistry question to anybody out there knowledgeable on phenethylamines? Does this rationale seem normal.... Soo 6apb is basically MDA where methlenedioxy has been swapped with benzofuran and amphetamine with an amine. Could somebody take mdma and swap the methlenedioxy with a benzofuran????? a chemistry geek friend told me its possible however the intermediate may be very unstable.
 
dirtyfrank said:
Could somebody take mdma and swap the methlenedioxy with a benzofuran????? a chemistry geek friend told me its possible however the intermediate may be very unstable.
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That would be 6-MAPB. 5-MAPB is reportedly making the rounds right now.
 
dirtyfrank Wait a second.. are you saying you discovered 6-APB just a month ago and already tried combining it with 10 different kinds of drugs? It shouldn't even work at such frequency of taking..

Also if I can ask, how old are you? Since you say "Ive since turned my friends, family, neighbors, hell even adults" I assume you are not 18 yet (although you also say something about coworkers so I'm a bit lost really), and you already went through depression from mdma abuse? Maybe you should slow down a bit..
other than that I'm happy that you enjoy APB, I guess I always had dirtier batch than you guys get now ( I haven't ordered/taken any for 3 months) because for me and all my friends stomach discomfort was always VERY bad and lasted for at least one hour, somebody threw up and somebody had diarrhea on comeup (like me). It was definitely not just in our heads, when you're so sick you can't think about anything else, you're just sick.
 
dirtyfrank said:
This utter stupidity
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Not only is combining 6-APB with some of the other drugs you mentioned incredibly dangerous, driving on 6-APB and MXE is incredibly fucking stupid. You obviously don't care what harm you might cause to yourself based on this post but you could've greatly injured or killed other people while doing that. I urge you to give sobriety a try and take time to reconsider your destructive decisions.
 
Depends where you live. It is not explicitly scheduled in the US but it is a close analogue of MDA.
 
In most of Europe all (M)APBs are still completely legal AFAIK, which is pretty surprising to me. Maybe it's because it's not very addictive - and people don't do crazy things on it, or at least aren't in mass media.
 
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