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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

Haha, I won't XD I do notice a disturbance in the force already though
 
Well, you're about half an hour in, so that make sense. IME, first signs on 100mg /empty stomach/ are around that time.
 
Actually feels excactly similar to an MDMA come-up, slight sweaty hands, tingles, colours are getting brighter. Should I expect euphoria from 100 mg's or is it wise to add a little bit?
 
It's hard to know - you'll be different to me. But if you don't reach that peak within an hour - or feel it coming but not going higher - I'd add another 20-50mgs on top - but that's just me. Then again, you might just hit that place as is....

Well, enjoy, I actually have to go & get my hair cut LOL
 
6apbhmm said:
Will look like playing with words worth picking out doses below 100mg might be not euphoric but not disphoric. Disphoric means you have really bad mood, when you take too low dose of a drug you will have just normal mood, not bad mood.
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no i mean exactly what i said. i read reports of people having an uncomfortable experience at near-threshold doses.
I'm not worried about "wasting" 50 mg and not feeling anything. that is a built in cost for trying a new drug. I was put off by the possibility that the titration up to full dose would involve uncomfortable, "bad mood" experiences.

maybe you have tried and felt differently? might get me interested in finally using the stuff.
 
This stuff is way to expensive and seems a lot weaker than cheaper material. I was interested in this, but going to put that interest on the back burner till I can try 5-MAPB or maybe when I can get a good amount of both 6-APB & 5-APB so I can test both alone and together.

But more interested in the 25x's right now.
 
twelvesevndi said:
no i mean exactly what i said. i read reports of people having an uncomfortable experience at near-threshold doses.
I'm not worried about "wasting" 50 mg and not feeling anything. that is a built in cost for trying a new drug. I was put off by the possibility that the titration up to full dose would involve uncomfortable, "bad mood" experiences.

maybe you have tried and felt differently? might get me interested in finally using the stuff.
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Ah sorry I was sure you mean not-euphoric.

I have different experience and so do a few of my friends. When I took 50 mg (from a not so strong batch where the really euphoric dose was in region of 150-200mg) I felt nice, a drug-naive person would have no reason to think I was on a drug because I acted very normally, just had much better mood, slightly more energetic and no nausea during comeup. Except the fact that even such low dose did enlarge my pupils, guess most people know why is that.

Still I have to say I don't really like APB for clubbing (only took it twice there, other experiments were at home), it just makes me energetic AND lazy at the same time, I am wide awake but don't really want to do anything besides listening to music in headphones or talking.
For clubbing is better MDMA or MMC or 4-FA imo...


As for price, 6-APB isn't the cheapest among RCs but it's not super expensive either when you consider that it lasts long time. This probably varies region to region a bit, where I live 1 night on APB is still much cheaper than on quality MDMA (which is sold in ridiculous prices in crystal form here, 3x more per gram compared to good meth, and most E pellets are fake useless crap filled with coffeine and tiny bit of meth maybe).
 
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Shaggy, I'd change your name to Fishy Fin (Dolly Parton - Theres somethin fishy going on on those fishing trips you keep going on - perfect for those paranoid moments.) (I'd only been to the shops but said ....thats it no more fishing for me baby, but I digress). I have friends who are journalists and they all admit journalism as we know it is dead. Now its all raping chat boards and FOI requests. Nothing you say makes sense......yesterday you cant wait to try......today you wont bother. You can't be assed to read the efforts of pioneers who have gone before you to provide all the info that is avialable. I am sorry to take this position, its not really my style, and I apologise in advance if Ive broken rules, but I really enjoy the open mindedness of BL and your LACK of interest is neither informative nor interesting. Take 500mg 5mapb and see what happens....I await the trip report with anticipation and a blank FOI request. Cheers
 
mozzer said:
Shaggy, I'd change your name to Fishy Fin (Dolly Parton - Theres somethin fishy going on on those fishing trips you keep going on - perfect for those paranoid moments.) (I'd only been to the shops but said ....thats it no more fishing for me baby, but I digress). I have friends who are journalists and they all admit journalism as we know it is dead. Now its all raping chat boards and FOI requests. Nothing you say makes sense......yesterday you cant wait to try......today you wont bother. You can't be assed to read the efforts of pioneers who have gone before you to provide all the info that is avialable. I am sorry to take this position, its not really my style, and I apologise in advance if Ive broken rules, but I really enjoy the open mindedness of BL and your LACK of interest is neither informative nor interesting. Take 500mg 5mapb and see what happens....I await the trip report with anticipation and a blank FOI request. Cheers
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How about instead of taking 500mg of a chem that is similar in price to MDMA, I just get a chem that doses under 1mg, and is super cheap. I don't have money to spend right now on taking 5x doses to feel "good". I'd rather take a small dose and feel "AMAZING".

So maybe I'll get back to Benzo-Fury soon, maybe it will take a while. I didn't say I was no longer interested in it, just that other interests came along that were more interesting.
 
What's the best way to avoid stomach discomfort on this substance? I tried on a full stomach and had much trouble keeping myself together. Would taking it on an empty stomach take care of this problem?
 
Take 6-apb on an empty stomach. It will hit you faster and harder & if you have any stomach upset, there will be less/nothing to shit/puke. IME, 6-apb is wasted on a full stomach.
 
Morkin said:
Take 6-apb on an empty stomach. It will hit you faster and harder & if you have any stomach upset, there will be less/nothing to shit/puke. IME, 6-apb is wasted on a full stomach.
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Yep, in my experience with RCs, any chemical is wasted on a full stomach.
 
^ I quite enjoy a small bowl of sugary cereal with the dose and didn't really experience noticeable time delay. Also it guarantees some energy if it ends up being a long one
Not frosted/corn flakes though, chundered them up once and i swear my throat was being cut to shreds when they were coming back up.
 
"On the other hand, acute moderate gastrointestinal effects, such as diarrhea and vomiting, are common upon administration of 5-HTP, probably due to rapid formation of serotonin in the upper intestinal tract."

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Hydroxytryptophan

Could something similar be happening when 6-APB makes you puke?
 
Morkin said:
"On the other hand, acute moderate gastrointestinal effects, such as diarrhea and vomiting, are common upon administration of 5-HTP, probably due to rapid formation of serotonin in the upper intestinal tract."

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Hydroxytryptophan

Could something similar be happening when 6-APB makes you puke?
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Good theory. I like it. But, I think its more like drinking a little too much, or like taking that one extra percocet. Sometimes its gotta come back up. The body is very good at expelling stuff it doesn't want in it.

If nausea/vomiting are an issue, I recommend staggering doses. And maybe eat a sandwich before dosing. That should help you not absorb too much apb at once.
 
Morkin said:
Could something similar be happening when 6-APB makes you puke?
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Yes, serotonin releasers are well known for inducing nausea. Specifically 5-HT3 agonists for sure if you want to get all Science! (although I'm sure other factors play a part). It's not just 6-APB that does this, of course.

There are some reports of people using drops of essential lemon oil to reduce psychedelic nausea (eg for DMT, shrooms, etc.). There is some Science! behind this as beta-pinene, a component in this oil, does seem to be a 5-HT3 antagonist (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17511060 -- although the study used ginger, the "chat board consensus" is that lemon oil is more effective due to higher concentration of beta-pinene.)

(Alcohol by the way is a 5-HT3 agonist of some sort, that probably partially explains the puking phenom.)
 
Apparently it's not the B-pinene, see the discussion here. Ginger is a great antiemetic though.

I would not be surprised if it was a result of direct 5HT-3 agonism but if not I bet it's the serotonin release.
 
Does anyone have a certain lemon/ginger drink that works well (let us know your measurements per cup of water)?

Discussion above indicates raw ginger, rather than dessicated ginger tea.
 
so does anyone have any added insight as to how 6apb being a potent full agonist for the 5h2b (or 5ht2b ?) might effect the cardiovascular system as oppoosed to mdma which is only a weak partial agonist for it? im weary to dip into this chem because this receptor is usually associated with cardiotoxicity. does anyone notice extra vasoconstriction or chest pains or anything with this in comparison to mdma? what about knowledge of how all this receptor shit works? thanks
 
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