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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Ben So Furry said:
I've been a lurker of this site for years, mainly using it for information, I (along with many others) am completely excited looking forward to this chemical, however I feel I had to sign up and post because of things I have found out that seem extremely sinister, or maybe just wild speculation.

Firstly people saying it won't cause the same hysteria that Mephedrone and that the price will stop people 'over doing it' is complete nonsense. The price let us not forget is still exactly the same as one gram of Mephedrone and with it being report-ably 10 times stronger by weight and 8 times longer lasting at first it appears much better value than Mephedrone, also the meph generation miss sticking their fingers up at coppers while fucked waving a small bag of white powder in their faces, this is why NRG1/2/3 etc. sell. People miss mail order legal drugs that actually do something and are searching for an alternative to at least try. A lot of people are watching this thread hoping this is the 'one'. That goes for the government and media. I have already seen a news article talking about Benzo Fury being the next Mephedrone and this connection is exactly what will get it banned faster than the postie can push it through your post box.

*removed link to a UK local newspaper article about a (seroiusly shitty) vendor - but they are still a vendor... even if other than "woof-woof" (once an EADD gag, now being quoted as fact... deja vu or just fuckin' morons?) they mainly sell cutting agents to "entrepreneurs". But still technically a vendor so small snip, big ramble*

The above almost looks like it was set-up to advertise the compound but what is worrying in that article is this:

Minister for crime prevention, James Brokenshire, said: “We are going to change our drug laws so we can respond quickly to emerging substances by introducing a temporary ban while we seek full scientific advice.”

Also if people think the media aren't looking for the next Meph media created 'scare' to sell papers to fearful parents, then they are wrong. This thread has users practically salivating to consume this substance, a forum which is indexed by Google and openly viewable by everyone. A thread which now contains the words Mephedrone and is one of the top links when a 6-APB search is run in Google.

Secondly I do like the idea of pellets with a recognised hard to copy logo on it, as it means you know what your getting and where it has come from and as a sign of a quality compound. It stops people selling bags of baking powder and creatine passing it off a pure product, if you get a pellet without the logo, you haven't got the product from the originators of this. Of course it includes some clever marketing techniques aswell. Most people when happy with a brand will not switch and that's exactly what the name Benzo Fury is: a brandname for 6-APB in pellet form from a certain supplier. Just as Nurofen is just a brand name for Ibuprofen costing many times more than the cheap generic super market version. I do like the fact it should be hard to counterfeit and rip people off, but saying this is for harm reduction of to stop people binging like they did on Mephedrone is ridiculous, vendors do not care if you injure yourself taking this or anything, all they want is your money, and the way this is playing out, this is looking like a goldmine.

I too am extremely looking forward to getting hold of some of this to try, and after the first round of samples went round and the trip reports started coming in I would of paid anything to any old vendor who claimed to have it, such was the hysteria it created. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

That has changed however and every time I try to dig around to find out what's going on with the delays to this substance I keep getting to a dead end and the same conclusion that this is all going to end badly for someone or all of us. I can't go into detail because it goes against the rules of vendor talk but like I said every line of enquiry fuels my paranoia.

All I will say is don't stock up too much right away, buy 3 tops, only spend what you can afford to lose, see what the first batch is like before going mad, (just advice of course, do what you like, I don't want to sound preachy but I don't want to be right either) I can't say too much because of rules, and its all theory and speculation fuelled by delay frustration, paranoia that I will never get to try this and things that have happened in the past with the people involved with this stuff, but, be wary. This could be the biggest hit and run hustle known, and I know it sounds silly but I prey I'm wrong.
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Thanks Ben So, I posted a couple of similar comments yesterday, doubting how authentic this new compound is !!!!! I was told two threads with a thousand posts asking about it can't be wrong (hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm)
 
Vurtual said:
I tried a little redose about 5 hours in but it wasn't enough to be worth it - I'm sure if i had enough for another full dose it would have worked though. I guess it would start to be diminishing returns pretty soon though (less high for more comedown - still wouldn't have said no though...).
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Yeah, i would have thought as much.

Just out of pure interest, has anyone tried taking 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine shortly before redosing?
 
Phraktal said:
Yeah, i would have thought as much.

Just out of pure interest, has anyone tried taking 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine shortly before redosing?
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I always thought that you took 5-HTP after dosing to ease comedown, not during or before re-dosing. I figured it was to replace depleted seretonin stores, not to try to create more whilst on the drug.

Spurs another question, anyone take 5-htp on the comedown, did it help?
 
^I got that exact feeling. Taken on saturday evening and until last night I felt pretty downbeat. Coincidence?
 
Didnt happen to me, altough i underdosed a bit.

DId you guys notice that with MDMA as well?
 
Wow, let me know if/when it clears up as I had planned to take mine on friday...

Might hold off if it turns out you guys have committed suicide by then..

Are we talking the same/not as bad/worse than your usual mdma blues?
 
Just like a prolonged comedown. Disjointed thoughts (akin to after a night on coke) mixed with general 'down-ness' for a few days. Although it may have something to do with being almost broke and losing out on a much desired job, mitigations and all that.

Nothing too terrible, it just lasted longer than I expected.
 
so i want to know about roa i normally enjoy snorting best but ppl seem to say oral best with this one why is that any one experance of snorting it
 
A few have tried snorting it and all seem to have found the effects to be either disappointing, unpleasant or ineffective. That was with the pure powder too - it will be bound up with "other stuff" in pellet form which is how it will be sold initially.
 
Harambulus said:
Would be interested to hear once you are back to 'normal'.

5-htp and tyrosine usually sorts the blues post mdma/meph for me.
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I always find 5-htp is bar far the best thing for the post sesh blues

Anyway just got beck from work to find santa ...... er I mean the postman has delivered my 100mg sample. First thing I noticed is how white it is but that was expected as apparently the new 'improved' batch is supposed to be white. It's maybe slightly off white but not much. 'Cream' would be a good discription of the colour. In terms of smell it's hard to describe as others have said. Nothing too strong but it has that kind of 'bitter' RC smell that many of the chems seem to have. Now the biggest problem I can see is getting the whole 100mg out of the bag as it's fairly plastered inside. I reckon by shaking the bag Im only going to get maybe 70mg out. So I've decided that when I come to do test it Im going to make a solution with a little water, pour what powder I can in to the water then turn the bag inside out and litterally rinse the bag in the solution, that should get it all. I wont be able to report back for a few days as my testing location, as per usual doesnt have a guarunteed internet connection or access to a computer and I will be there from tomorrow night (when Im testing) until sunday night. I will write up a full report and post a link here when Im back though :):)
 
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mugabe said:
Now I don't know if I can blame this on the 6-APB or if it is a coincidence, but the last few days I have been feeling pretty demotivated and down. I took the 6-APB on Friday.
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Perhaps coincidence. Ive felt perfectly ok since the weekend (mentally and physically)
 
If you take some mind-bending drug, there's always going to be a chance of a comedown. In fact, if they make you think about how much/often you use, comedowns aren't necessarily a bad thing.
 
Mullered: I'd advise starting with an allergy test (1-2mg) followed by a very low dose test (5-10mg) unless you know for an absolute fact that what you have is 6-APB. I doubt many of us could be positive enough to go dropping 100mg straight off. If it turned out to be one of the potent versions of NRG-1 or something you would be fucked and not in a good way. Bit of caution is wise, I'd say.
 
Shambles said:
Mullered: I'd advise starting with an allergy test (1-2mg) followed by a very low dose test (5-10mg) unless you know for an absolute fact that what you have is 6-APB. I doubt many of us could be positive enough to go dropping 100mg straight off. If it turned out to be one of the potent versions of NRG-1 or something you would be fucked and not in a good way. Bit of caution is wise, I'd say.
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Without going into detail (vendor talk etc) I am 100% sure it is from the same place other confirmed samples have come from.

But thanks for the concern Shambles, I will do an alergy test :)
 
mugabe said:
Now I don't know if I can blame this on the 6-APB or if it is a coincidence, but the last few days I have been feeling pretty demotivated and down. I took the 6-APB on Friday.
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I tried ~30mg first, then 100mg two days later and another 100 a week later and I didn't particularly notice a mid-week drop from either go (i usually get something with mud, if only being a bit snappier than usual around tues-wed).

But then either your down or my lack of one could be coincidental (other factors - it was sunny). It's hard to tell with so few tries, but i'd probably bet on your experience being more representative in the long run (it must be doing more or less the same business to your neuro-wotsits as mud) - also i didn't really notice a mid-week blues when i first did mud - maybe the novelty counteracts it (for me) when the substance is new.

That it subjectively fely cleaner for me each time could easily be placebo (why don't the vendors start selling placebo - oh they are under the name NRG/MDAI/MDAT etc.)
 
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I tried the second whiter batch on Friday with mugabe, and it blew my socks off compared to the first time.

It was altogether a much stronger experiences. I did get visual effects this time - not full blown hallucinations but general brightening and buzzing.
It also got me much more "fucked" -- wish I had a better word -- out of it, disoriented, I guess. While it was very enjoyable, I would find it too much in a club.

I've definitely had a mid week dip this week. This morning I could just not be bothered with anything - very "what's the point?".
It's not as bad as MDMA or meph comedown - I find those make me feel bad enough to interfere with my life. It's more just feeling "bleh, I can't be bothered".

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Our 200mg sample weighed 160mg out of the bag because of the amount stuck to the inside of the bag. I licked the bag - grim but simple.
 
Hmm sounds like nothing a 5htp/tyrosine course won't fix! :)

Hmm I wanna take mine on fri, but there isn't that much good on that night- oly an oldskool night but oldskool is a bit 'meh' to me.

Dnb on mon so it depends if I will be able to resist!

I fail to believe this one won;t be good for a club!

I don't have any scales. I have been told (in cover letter) I have a 100 mgs so looks like it's gonna have to be an 'eyeball' job.
 
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