The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Aye i've had decent crystal a few times, not nearly as much experience as with pills though. On MD i get so overwhelmed by the euphoric rushes a song i love brings, even on the most mellow experiences of it i've had. Not so much with this though, music appreciation was definitely enhanced but the visuals were more distracting, found it much more difficult to keep a conversation going aswel as i'd just end up staring off into space admiring things haha. On mandy though i can waffle on for hours

Lack of pissing was also something id get really heavily on md, its possible with ALOT of willpower ime but i'd just get bored of standing there & go and do something else. Same on this. Had really bad drymouth aswel, so drank a fair bit. Stuck to mainly water though

I reckon i could eat if i tried, got no food in & cant be bothered walking to the shops though. Pretty hungry aswel actually

Sniffed a bit at 3:40 yesterday aftie, first large oral dose at 8 with a very small redose around 12, which did nothing that i noticed

 

[Xamkou]

Shambles in saying thats it's not the new mephedrone, do you mean its not as good as mephedrone? Or just that it's not similar to mephedrone?

Not similar. It's already been said - it's comparable to MDMA but with soft, phsycadelic visuals.

 

[GZero]

Shambles in saying thats it's not the new mephedrone, do you mean its not as good as mephedrone? Or just that it's not similar to mephedrone?

I think he's suggesting that this particular substance won't have you going on 4 day benders and then losing the ability to fuck.

It's an entactogen and psychedelic, not some wreckless stimulant that going to have the kids running around like mad fucking hampsters on speed.


However, people will continue to talk utter codshit and this is a good thing.

 

[Shambles]

Shambles in saying thats it's not the new mephedrone, do you mean its not as good as mephedrone? Or just that it's not similar to mephedrone?

I have to admit that I fuckin' loathe meph - shitty, toxic feeling buzz that's okay briefly but the side-effects make it a horrid substance, in my opinion. The difference is like night and day - they are just totally different drugs. For me, meph is kinda like taking shitty coke after having a recent lobotomy whereas this is almost like a return to properly good pills.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Re: trying to piss while on stims

Should magnesium help with this in the same way that it 'supposedly' helps with jaw clenching, etc? Do jaw clenching and being unable to piss have the same root cause (muscular tension)?

The whole thing around pissing on stims can be very irritating, though 99% of the time you're mashed enough to forget about it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I quite like the thought of this being a more 'involved', longer experience than meph. Means that you're less likely to 'dip into' it during the week so could - ahem - possibly be stockpiled in the event of a ban. (Just not possible with meph!)

Lol at the description of 'speedy pill'. That's how I would have described meph at the start - though not towards the end.

 

[feeny87]

well evri1 i have to say this stuff is better than anything i have ever took before. 100mgs will last a whole night beleive me. u actually dont feel like ur on earth u just feel like ur in heaven. i was on here before slagging the fact tht 100mg pellets may be a tenner but on last nights evidence it will be well worth the money!!

 

[ABCDFG I Ate The E]

Can anyone please tell me the legality of this in the US? A while back in this thread a mod said it was illegeal in the states.. but if this was true you would think there would of been a ton of other people talking about it.

so.. legal, or illegal in the US?

 

[khatman]

Lovely surprise coming home to a delivery of 6-APB. Thank-you. If I like it I'll be a loyal customer.

160mg in the bag just swallowed 115mg.

 

[feeny87]

i had the strong urge to go out on it but sadly wer i stay there aint nowhere to go out too! i found it really hard to concentrate on anything apart from music. listening to a bit of tiesto or paul van dyk was like heaven tho! i took mines at roughly 8pm last night and never slept untill about 4 - 5 am. kept getting up evri hour needing the loo tho!

 

[nuke]

Re: trying to piss while on stims

Should magnesium help with this in the same way that it 'supposedly' helps with jaw clenching, etc? Do jaw clenching and being unable to piss have the same root cause (muscular tension)?

The whole thing around pissing on stims can be very irritating, though 99% of the time you're mashed enough to forget about it.

No, the problem is related to vasopressin release which is especially bad on empathogens. You might want to try some kind of vasopressin receptor agonist or diuretic.

 

[p-mo]

For people with bladder problems- try running your hand under some cold water and whistling... seems to help me every time (with MDXX substances)..

 

[Shambles]

sounds a little like a trippy e , also something about that gzero guy what is getting on my tits, far to much of "im the big man" still think he is full of shit and if he gets his tongue any further up shambles ass he will be frenchying him

"Trippy E" is a pretty good description of the effects but I think your comments about GZero were totally uncalled for. I don't know the chap personally but he was one of the first to try the stuff and has givengood information about it accurate descriptions of the effects right from the start. I don't think he's trying to be "Mr Big Man" at all - he just happened to be fortunate enough to get an early taste of it and is one of only two people that I am aware of that have any right to talk with some degree of authority about it as he and Skyline have the most experience so far - all two doses of it.

Also, if you had access to my arse you'd just love to get ya tongue up it too - tis a sweet and fragrant starfish if I do say so myself

Mmmm, so would this be a suitable 'night out' drug? I don't mind light visuals but wouldn't enjoy anything too much of a mindfuck.

Would be great for a night out, in my opinion. Probably depends on what you're doing and who you're doing it with though. Zero mindfuck for me but others seem to have had a certain amount so maybe test it out somewhere less public before dosing in a club/party/whatever.

I've still got my sample

May do some tonight, dunno whats on but it's great to see suchb positive responses from people.

Maybe some real 5-IAI will show up soon eh.

Just heard that I may well have another small sample for the weekend too

5-IAI certainly does sound promising but I guess we'll just have to wait and see on that one.

 

[Harambulus]

Should magnesium help with this in the same way that it 'supposedly' helps with jaw clenching, etc?

Just for the record I now SWEAR by magnesium for COMPLETELY ELIMINATING jaw clenching since I tried it with MDMA a while back and it has stayed part of my preload for stims ever since.

I take around 600mgs before dropping and it totally eliminates the jaw clenching.

So do you guys think drinking coffee would help with the vasopressin ghost piss phenom? I'm sure many people have drunk redbull while at a club on E but I'm sure it wasn't a controlled experiment such that they would be able to say whether X eased Y.

I guess if I do try it I'll just have to experiment with certain possibles while on it.

 

[rofl20]

So nobody answered a question I saw on the previous page. Does anyone know the legality of 6-APB in the US? I have also heard it's illegal, but I don't believe that bullshit. Its not even readily available yet! Obviously it falls under the analog drug law, but that doesn't mean anything as long as its not sold for human consumption... so can anyone elaborate on this subject? Thanks in advance.

 

[MrDoIt]

@rofl20

I think this was discussed earlier in the thread (but its now faaaar to long to search !!). I get the feeling that someone said it was legal, as long as not sold for human consumption, but the problem being that it has no other use other than a recreational drug, so would be hard to prove that it wasnt for human consumption, no matter what it was marketed as.

 

[Harambulus]

Completely. Coffee and a beer has me pissing like nothing.

Yes me too when sober but that doesn't say anything of if it will help while on MDMA/this stuff. From what you wrote I got the impression you haven't tried it while in the throes of ecstasy.

Drinking coffee would be no prob while rolling, but also if out just have a redbull. There's also proplus.

Well now...I just did a quick search and the first result turned up this:

"Ethanol and caffeine reduce vasopressin secretion. The resulting decrease in water reabsorption by the kidneys leads to a higher urine output. Coffee is an example of a food product that suppresses the body's release of antidiuretic hormones, due to its level of caffeine."

So my alcohol guess was probably on the money too. That's reassuring that it says they directly counteract release of vasopressin which MDMA etc. are an atagonist of. I might indeed dabble with this now then...

 

[The Smoking Man]

im calling it benzo because thats what it is gettin sold as!

Not only is it about as stupid as calling meph "meow meow", but 6-APB, 6-APDB, and 5-APDB are all getting sold as "benzo fury", even though they're not the same fucking chem.

 

[bonbon]

where have u seen 6 and 5-apbd being sold? because they're both illegal i believe.

I believe so too. See my post way earlier in the thread

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=8399086&highlight=2001+amendment#post8399086

The differences between illegal and legal are subtle but in 6-APB's case, the change that makes it legal also makes it chemically more similar to MDA. For the life of me though, I cannot find even a hint of a synthesis anywhere in the professional literature. It doesn't get more RC than that...

Maybe the guys who tried it first would grace us with some "week after" data?

 

[ABCDFG I Ate The E]

Hey, don't mean to be annoying, as this questions already been asked twice, but I still can't find an answer.

Could anyone please comment on 6-APB's legality in the US? Is the "intent to consume" clause the only thing keeping it vague? Would 6-APB be "substantially similar" to MDA in a chemical sense?

Was just about to ask this again.

Is 6-APB only illegal in the US if it's for human consumption?

I.E. if i'm using it to fertalize my plants is that okay?

edit: i'm confused because of this post:

Please don't take 200mg guys.

Most users are reporting very strong experiences from 50-75mg, with hardheads dosing a little closer to 100mg.

It also seems to be a strong psychedelic, so know what you're in for.

Unfortunately this stuff is illegal where I am already (and pretty much all of North America inexplicitly), so I won't be trying it.

 

[MrDoIt]

Was just about to ask this again.

Is 6-APB only illegal in the US if it's for human consumption?

I.E. if i'm using it to fertalize my plants is that okay?

edit: i'm confused because of this post:

I think you would have to prove that it has some other useful use other than being used as a recreational drug (Human consumption).
Im not sure the Police would be believing you if your stopped coming out of a club at 3am with 2g 6-APB in your pocket and you tell them youve only got it to fertilize your plants when you get home !!

I think it will have to go to a test case where it will be decided illegal/legal irrespective whether for human consumption or not....