The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread
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Jabberwocky
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muscular tightness maybe?
Jabberwocky
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i would bet that would degrade it. You'll have to risk that or just have to let it evaporate...
Aldousage
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Wow.
I had an incredibly mutually-therapeutic experience with two friends a couple days ago, with great thanks due to 5-MeO-MiPT. A long stroll along the river bank, and unprecedentedly open and frank discussions of personal philosophy/psychology set the stage for some emotionally-powerful breakthroughs.
I'm more and more impressed by this, for the most part subtle, but also intensely alluring, chemical.
Peacelove,
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I had an incredibly mutually-therapeutic experience with two friends a couple days ago, with great thanks due to 5-MeO-MiPT. A long stroll along the river bank, and unprecedentedly open and frank discussions of personal philosophy/psychology set the stage for some emotionally-powerful breakthroughs.
I'm more and more impressed by this, for the most part subtle, but also intensely alluring, chemical.
Peacelove,
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Mjäll
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Yeah. Now I had one more great 5-meo-mipt experience. Not much in the visual department except for sharpened vision (which was cool). A bit of a rough come-up (as always) but then a smooth ride with cold limbs and shame for how good we were feeling inside. Everything felt very lucid and beautiful to me - until we entered a big shopping mall (we weren't tripping hard and could controll ourselves), had McDonalds food and went around looking at the disgusting people. The epitome of human filth 
Never any paranoia or difficulties though (save for the come-up).
Never any paranoia or difficulties though (save for the come-up).
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bluedolphin
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Had a dissapointing experience with this one last night.
After taking 6mg at a festival this summer and loving it, thinking it had a lot of comparisons with MDMA even... I decided to take 10mg last night to try to get some energy work done.
The result was a very anxious, stimulating come up that was quickly taking me into a difficult mindspace. My body and mind were being jolted by weird shocking sensations. Visuals were present and very interesting but not overly intense.
I quickly took 2mg clonazepam because I simply felt very uncomfortable in my body. After this kicked in I chilled out a bit and watched TV. At this point the trip was more or less a waste for me.
Psychedelia lasted only about 5-6 hours. I did not notice it to get any trippier in the later stage, just the body load eased up a bit (maybe just due to the benzos).
The strange electric shock sensations lasted for about 4-5 hours. They were mostly felt in my brain. It did not feel especially healthy. I also felt some tingling in my extremities, though I didn't bother to move around and get the blood flowing as I'd become too benzo'd out to care.
I did a few small bumps of Ketamine towards the end of the trip and immediately felt much better.
For me, this is only useful in low doses. I think I'll stick to Shulgin's dose range from now on, if I ever take it again.
After taking 6mg at a festival this summer and loving it, thinking it had a lot of comparisons with MDMA even... I decided to take 10mg last night to try to get some energy work done.
The result was a very anxious, stimulating come up that was quickly taking me into a difficult mindspace. My body and mind were being jolted by weird shocking sensations. Visuals were present and very interesting but not overly intense.
I quickly took 2mg clonazepam because I simply felt very uncomfortable in my body. After this kicked in I chilled out a bit and watched TV. At this point the trip was more or less a waste for me.
Psychedelia lasted only about 5-6 hours. I did not notice it to get any trippier in the later stage, just the body load eased up a bit (maybe just due to the benzos).
The strange electric shock sensations lasted for about 4-5 hours. They were mostly felt in my brain. It did not feel especially healthy. I also felt some tingling in my extremities, though I didn't bother to move around and get the blood flowing as I'd become too benzo'd out to care.
I did a few small bumps of Ketamine towards the end of the trip and immediately felt much better.
For me, this is only useful in low doses. I think I'll stick to Shulgin's dose range from now on, if I ever take it again.
Jabberwocky
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yeah its a weird one. don't forget its a 5-meo. It really resembles 5-meo-DMT at least in high doses 15+ mg. My friend had a pretty classic ego death experience tripping on the dancefloor she said she totally lost contact with herself and forgot who she was and was eventually reborn. This was with about 15mg (snorted). She said it was scary and she didn't want that to happen to her again (she only has experience with MDMA and 2CB).
lysergication
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I had a great experience with ~10mg taken (t+6h) on ~120mg (t+0h) + ~60mg (t+4h) of MDMA with a bit of alcohol in a social context (birthday party)...very nice body feelings and a sharpened psychedelic mental perception. I noticed some visuals by the end of the experience, not images but realistic blue colouration of any "junction" (e.g between squares on the tiling on the angle of objects), quite strange.
It really eased the come down of the MDMA. Actually, I didn't felt any come down. Even if I slept only three hours that night, I felt pretty energised until 1pm on the next day !
All in all, it was a really better experience than my first one at 5mg...I wonder how are 10mg on their own (maybe the MDMA have prevented any anxiety)?
It really eased the come down of the MDMA. Actually, I didn't felt any come down. Even if I slept only three hours that night, I felt pretty energised until 1pm on the next day !
All in all, it was a really better experience than my first one at 5mg...I wonder how are 10mg on their own (maybe the MDMA have prevented any anxiety)?
posted this in the mipt thread:
my lab has been evaluating 5-meo-mipt at low doses ( 7-9 mg ) for the past few weeks.
results:
a) nice mild body stone - some stimulation, very little, if any negative body load
b) pleasant mental state
c) visual enhancement -walking my dog thru the woods during a light snowfall was very nice
d) musical enhancement was a +
test subject is a musician, singer/composer and found this compound very useful for working through writers block - makes me want to sing
surprisingly hungry - munched a lot and enjoyed food while dosing
seems to be a nice, safe ,mild substance at low doses - which I prefer- personally not looking to 'trip balls' or get 'way out there' - had enough of that in my younger years ( late 60's early 70's )
one of my favs
will increase dosage at next trial to 12-15mg
b
my lab has been evaluating 5-meo-mipt at low doses ( 7-9 mg ) for the past few weeks.
results:
a) nice mild body stone - some stimulation, very little, if any negative body load
b) pleasant mental state
c) visual enhancement -walking my dog thru the woods during a light snowfall was very nice
d) musical enhancement was a +
test subject is a musician, singer/composer and found this compound very useful for working through writers block - makes me want to sing
surprisingly hungry - munched a lot and enjoyed food while dosing
seems to be a nice, safe ,mild substance at low doses - which I prefer- personally not looking to 'trip balls' or get 'way out there' - had enough of that in my younger years ( late 60's early 70's )
one of my favs
will increase dosage at next trial to 12-15mg
b
Obyron
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^^ Glad you're liking it. Always preferred this one as a mixer, myself. Low doses were good with 2C-E.
This one always made me really gassy though. Never understood it.
This one always made me really gassy though. Never understood it.
Delsyd
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i want to eat moxy and have sex
why oh why is tripping time so scarce these days.
why oh why is tripping time so scarce these days.
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5-meo-mipt and SNRI's
Would I run the risk of serotonin syndrome if I smoked some 5-meo-mipt and a few hours later took a therapeutic dose of an SNRI? I think i got a mild case after I smoked 5-meo-mipt one night then the next morning took a therapeutic dose of tramadol. Had cold sweats, weakness, shivering/trembling, confusion, and upset stomach.
Would I run the risk of serotonin syndrome if I smoked some 5-meo-mipt and a few hours later took a therapeutic dose of an SNRI? I think i got a mild case after I smoked 5-meo-mipt one night then the next morning took a therapeutic dose of tramadol. Had cold sweats, weakness, shivering/trembling, confusion, and upset stomach.
I don't know if anyone else knows about the pharmacological effects of both tramadol and 5-MeO-MiPT but if you don't it would probably be wisest to abstain from the combination within a certain timeframe.
If you insist on taking them within a short while I think it's prudent to test if the same thing you describe happens again when you reproduce the situation only space out small doses of tramadol every 15-20 minutes instead of taking all at once and you could limit the SNRI aspect of tramadol which in turn could limit adverse reactions.
Should you decide to try this and it doesn't produce nasty side effects you could shorten the time between taking the substances to cautiously check if these effects then turn up again.
Again: all of this can be taken into account if there's no one who can answer for you if there are solid reasons for risking something like serotonin storm. If thats the case safest is to don't use yourself as a guinnea pig again but considering harm reduction my advice would be that the above approach limits the risks.
If you insist on taking them within a short while I think it's prudent to test if the same thing you describe happens again when you reproduce the situation only space out small doses of tramadol every 15-20 minutes instead of taking all at once and you could limit the SNRI aspect of tramadol which in turn could limit adverse reactions.
Should you decide to try this and it doesn't produce nasty side effects you could shorten the time between taking the substances to cautiously check if these effects then turn up again.
Again: all of this can be taken into account if there's no one who can answer for you if there are solid reasons for risking something like serotonin storm. If thats the case safest is to don't use yourself as a guinnea pig again but considering harm reduction my advice would be that the above approach limits the risks.
Xorkoth
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Merged in a thread about combining 5-MeO-MiPT with SNRIs.
Riemann Zeta
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I finally got a chance to assay this compound. I took an 8mg dose (PO) and was amazed at the extremely rapid come-up (onset within 30min). Some nice LSD-like visual phenomena and a general great psychedelic cognitive set for around two hours with a rather steep drop-off (like all of the N-isopropyl-tryptamines I've tried, this one seems like a fun quick-on/quick-off ride). I wouldn't say that it was a 'deep' experience, but it was certainly still an enjoyable experience. Just your classic, down-to-business, have a damn fun time psychedelic.
Considering how much I like 5-MeO-DMT, I would be interested in trying this one again at a higher dose, similar to my mindfuck-level 5-MeO-DMT experience (~20mg) to see how they compare.
Considering how much I like 5-MeO-DMT, I would be interested in trying this one again at a higher dose, similar to my mindfuck-level 5-MeO-DMT experience (~20mg) to see how they compare.
Xorkoth
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Please let us know how the high-dose experiments go... I am very curious as I love 5-MeO-MiPT but haven't taken it above 10mg. I hear that high doses can be a totally different experience.
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