The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread
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underground_troll
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I have taken 5-meo-MIPT on 3 occasions. The first time was orally at 7mg, and the other 2 times were rectally at 8 and 9mg. The first time I took it was quite a mild experience. My boyfriend and I took it together, and spent a good amount of the trip sitting in the forest or walking outside. Not much in the way of visuals besides the enhancement of growing things, perceiving life. It was spring time and there was a lot of fresh growth and budding plants. It was quite mentally psychedelic, and a beautiful experience.
The second time we took it was a couple days later, which was a bad call, as I spent the second half of the trip basically pissing out my ass. Brutal diarrhea. However, we had recently come out of a stressful living situation, so perhaps this was partly a psychological cleaning. Ugh.
Our third trip, which was a month or more later, was a quite strong experience. We each experienced full blown open eye visuals, which was something we hadn't anticipated due to things we had read stating the lack of visuals this compound possesses. We proceeded to make love, and found that the activity enhanced the mental psychedelic effects, as well as the visuals, and was also an especially pleasurable session.
The second time we took it was a couple days later, which was a bad call, as I spent the second half of the trip basically pissing out my ass. Brutal diarrhea. However, we had recently come out of a stressful living situation, so perhaps this was partly a psychological cleaning. Ugh.
Our third trip, which was a month or more later, was a quite strong experience. We each experienced full blown open eye visuals, which was something we hadn't anticipated due to things we had read stating the lack of visuals this compound possesses. We proceeded to make love, and found that the activity enhanced the mental psychedelic effects, as well as the visuals, and was also an especially pleasurable session.
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I've taken it at 6mg and now 10mg.
6mg was pretty threshold, slight uncomfortable energy in the comeup, talkative and slight euphoria for an hour or two, slight patterning reminiscent of mushroom type "buzzing" visuals when concentrating; sleep was no problem five hours after dosing. Overall very light.
10mg was stronger than I expected, comparable to 2 or 3g of mushrooms, but still extremely manageable. No uncomfortable comeup, no body load, occasional pronounced euphoria, mushroom-like headspace (profound thoughts, self-analyzing, etc), and open eye visuals were unavoidable (again, "buzzing" patterning on walls, but posters crumpled, tables warped, and a map on my wall viewed in low light produced an endless variety of perceived shapes). Sleep was difficult but attainable six or seven hours after dosing. Fun, enjoyable, easy, but it had a definite depth to it.
6mg was pretty threshold, slight uncomfortable energy in the comeup, talkative and slight euphoria for an hour or two, slight patterning reminiscent of mushroom type "buzzing" visuals when concentrating; sleep was no problem five hours after dosing. Overall very light.
10mg was stronger than I expected, comparable to 2 or 3g of mushrooms, but still extremely manageable. No uncomfortable comeup, no body load, occasional pronounced euphoria, mushroom-like headspace (profound thoughts, self-analyzing, etc), and open eye visuals were unavoidable (again, "buzzing" patterning on walls, but posters crumpled, tables warped, and a map on my wall viewed in low light produced an endless variety of perceived shapes). Sleep was difficult but attainable six or seven hours after dosing. Fun, enjoyable, easy, but it had a definite depth to it.
15mg is m yfavorite dose for this chemical. Anything lower just feels like a tease. I find 15mg to be full of animalistic energy and beautiful neon orange strobing visuals (quite bizarre). I don't recall many side effects other than a wealth of energy though. Nothing like the tremors / brain zaps i get from 2c-e. I really like this chemical. Smoking 5-10mg while on other psychedelics is also very very nice. All of my close friends agree on this as well.
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Has anyone else found this compound quite amusing for its properties as a "time slower" even at low doses (~5 mg HCl)?
I reckon that its effects on perception of time are pretty similar to what DiPT does to sound perception. While other psychedelics exhibit sort of "light, allround psychedelic" characteristics at low doses, this seems mystically potent of causing time dilation.
Also, it's unusually pushing empathogenically.
I reckon that its effects on perception of time are pretty similar to what DiPT does to sound perception. While other psychedelics exhibit sort of "light, allround psychedelic" characteristics at low doses, this seems mystically potent of causing time dilation.
Also, it's unusually pushing empathogenically.
Oooh, now I'm going to have to run some experiments on this! :D Time perception (and the plasticity thereof) is very much my main research focus, so this interests me greatly, if this substance produces a more consistent and potent (and thus more likely to be amenable to study) alteration of time perception, in most observers. *adds 5-MeO-MiPT acquisition to new year's resolution list*
ETA: Have you tried MiPT, Mjäll? I'm wondering whether it has a higher ceiling for the time-distortion effect you experience than the 5-MeO, as with their diisopropyl counterparts and auditory distortion.
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FWIW, I haven't noticed any more time distortion from 5-meo-mipt than I have from any other psychedelic. My dosages have ranged from 6mg to 16mg.
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Oooh, now I'm going to have to run some experiments on this! :D Time perception (and the plasticity thereof) is very much my main research focus, so this interests me greatly, if this substance produces a more consistent and potent (and thus more likely to be amenable to study) alteration of time perception, in most observers. *adds 5-MeO-MiPT acquisition to new year's resolution list*
ETA: Have you tried MiPT, Mjäll? I'm wondering whether it has a higher ceiling for the time-distortion effect you experience than the 5-MeO, as with their diisopropyl counterparts and auditory distortion.
I haven't tried MiPT.
If you are going to research how 5-MeO-MiPT affects time perception, I suggest low doses. It seems to be the first effect above threshold for me (rather than seemingly a consequence of increased flow of thoughts and visual input, as with most tryptamines).
To what extent do you notice time distortion on other psychedelics? I'm not sure how acutely aware I am of such things. Actually, I think I've noticed it on cannabis, but not on psychedelics.
Just checked for reports on MiPT and the B&D thread, and there's not much, is there. And what there is sounds like what a person without an auditory cortex might say of DiPT. Cognitive effects; mild visuals at higher doses; little else. Which does make me curious as to whether MiPT (and its cousins) might be active in some aspect of perception (maybe time perception; maybe something else) that most people don't generally pay much attention to.
Equally, maybe not: maybe it just doesn't have much perceptual activity.
But it intrigues me nonetheless.Interesting. Can you quantify the time dilation at all, based on your subjective experience? (e.g. how long did 5 minutes feel like?) Is this dose-dependent or just on/off?
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Hmm... I can't say I've noticed it to have more time dilation properties than other tryptamines. I do love 5-MeO-MiPT though... fantastic stuff. It's really useful for me at doing energy work. Several times I have used it while depressed and kicked myself right out of it. I was able to visualize depression and anxiety as closed feedback loops of energy, in the stomach and solar plexus, and the feedback loop causes the energy to get stuck inside, which feels very uncomfortable in more than just a physical way. With 5-MeO-MiPT I was easily able to untie those knots of energy and get everything flowing freely again. 5-MeO-MiPT makes me feel very alive and physically in my body. It makes me want to leap around and dance and constantly move, but in a non-manic sort of way.
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Usually with high doses, but even then, it doesn't happen every time (or I'm simply not noticing it). It seems to correlate with the intensity of the mental effects... usually when I notice extreme time distortion, I am also experiencing intense thought loops, strong ego dissolution, etc.
Time distortion, for me, usually seems to be more of a factor of set/setting... whereas when I'm having a good time, time goes either at a normal pace or it appears to fly by faster (as it does in the real world) and it goes much slower (or even appears to stop) when I'm in a more negative head space. Now, that isn't to say the opposite doesn't happen from time to time, but for the most part that is how it plays out for me.
I also notice it to a greater degree and frequency with cannibus. Mixing cannibus and psychedelics is almost a sure fire way for me to initiate it.
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I think the time dilation is more noticable on a shorter scale. For example, music will sound slower and more "rounded" and what people say may sound hilariously slow and stupid.
I have no way to judge time passed, and I don't think it's very different on 5-MeO-MiPT. It mainly affects the perception of "time-dependant quality" of events, from my experience.
It's highly dose dependant. With larger doses you also get the regular "It can't have been just an hour! It feels like I've been to the moon and back" thing.
Keep in mind all this might actually be attributable to my mindset. Particularly likely since I've basically tried psychedelics one at a time, in different stages of my life. It's something worth going into a bit more though, I think!
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euphoriant at lower doses
ego-crusher at higher doses
People tend to have uncomfortable thoughts and body issues on it...at the end of the trip they will complain of muscle tensions, imbalances, etc.
ego-crusher at higher doses
People tend to have uncomfortable thoughts and body issues on it...at the end of the trip they will complain of muscle tensions, imbalances, etc.
Xorkoth
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Weird, that's exactly opposite to my reaction. It helps me address my already-existing energy imbalances and correct them, and by the end I feel awesome. Well, the first time I used it it made me uncomfortable and end up with stiff muscles but I didn't know how to use it then... I resisted its effects.
Interesting diversity of responses to this one, it seems.
Oh, well that's even more interesting to me. It's the around-a-second-and-less region of time perception that intrigues me more (though it's all jolly interesting, really).
That sounds not unlike DiPT. (You've taken DiPT, yes? How do it and 5-MeO-MiPT compare, auditorily?) Can you give examples of non-auditory temporal effects with 5-MeO-MiPT?
Sure, that does make it particularly difficult to draw conclusions from your experiences; still, interest's piqued enough that I reckon I may see how I react to this one at some point.
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