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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread

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i think ive found a rather interesting use for this chem. namely, as a sitter's psychedelic.

a couple of friends were tripping on acid at a house, and i wanted to join in in their fun, but was too late to drop too, and had too little time at my disposal. so i bombed some 5meo-dalt with very satisfying effects. so visually there was nothing, but mentally it felt like i could be closer to them, we giggled for a few hours, played silly games, talked a lot and generally was merry, while enjoying thier music as well. it wasnt an acid trip, but i loved the experience.

plus i was able to sleep and rest, and my appetite wasnt hurt at all.
 
Is the general consensus on 5-MeO-DALT yay or nay?

I can tell that most people think it is kinda bland and not really tripping but does that mean it isn't worthwhile?
 
tBirdee said:
^What was your dose?
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it was around 25mg, but it was left out in the open at room temperature for a little while. it is also from a batch from early last year so might not be the best reference.

to answer the worthyness question, noone can really tell you what anything is worth for you, only their personal exp with it (how much is a picture of your dog worth to you, compared with me?)
the substance isnt one of the most powerful, potent, or interesting, but that doesnt mean its not just right in some situations.
 
It is certainly worth a try if you are looking for an uncomplicated, recreational psychedelic experience. Pros for me are the very short come up time and relatively short duration of the trip, plus coming down to baseline within four hours or less with no residuals. It provides a trippy headspace without mental confusion. It seems to affect people differently at different doses so YMMV.
 
After finally procuring this from a reliable source and testing to make sure what I had was in fact 5meo-dalt I can say the following: DOSE.
This chemical is all about dose.
I liked it orally. I found that 20mg was a threshhold dose..I knew something was there..interesting thought patterns..minimal body load. At 50mg ...another story....quick onset....15 mins or so...back to baseline at 4 hour. The trip...and it was a trip.. a bit speedy...still found the body load minimal..would say it was fun, euphoric..
At 90mg. At this dose it a b different drug. A full on tryptamine high that for me compared favorably to some of my favorite tryptamines.

Smoked...titrated from a starting dose of 5mg. Dose I settled on was 40-50mg. At the higher doses it wass all I could barely get the pipe down before the effects took over. It reminded me od dmt. A 70mg smoked dose necessitatted having someone remove the bowl from my hand and a half hour of what was about as similar to a dmt trip as I care to get. At this dose I did not drive, the drug did.

My conclusion: its a mystical substance. It takes on a totally different character dependent on dose. It's not just stronger...it's a completely different drug. Down side..if you want to get to know it you'll need a decent quantity so you can experience the nuances that come from experimenting with the doses.

One last thing. Don't be an idiot. I am sure that the potency of batches of this drug varies. And you are not me. Start low. Don't end up being a statistic.
 
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very interesting report!

are the smoked doses smoked? or vaped? also, is there a hangover effect from such large doses? or an afterglow of some sorts, like with other tryptamines?

how was the tolerance (depending on ROA and dose)?

very interesting results youve been having there, i dont remember reading in many places about 5meo-dalt being likened to dmt. would you say this was the euphoria? the headspace? the visuals?
 
I am always careful/guarded with the term euphoria. For me the word means 'a complete and total sense of well being. The feeling that everythiing is and will be ok. Thus far in my life the only chemicals that have gotten me there were amphetamines when I was much younger, phen-Fen and freebase cocaine.

The closest I come to a sense of euphoria with psychedelics is a good 2ci trip. One where there is no hint of introspection or dissociation. Even at the highest points in my life I don't see euphoria and getting introspective as going together. Having said that I would say that this chem didn't even point me in the direction of euphoric.

Smoked doses were in my glass cannibis bowl. I put a little herbal blend down on the bottom of the bowl, added the chem and covered it with a bit more. When I say herbal blend I do not mean cannibis. Just some herbal cigarette blend. I vaped it a few times but didn't notice a difference. It tastes a bit crappy and the herbal blend mellowed it.

Visuals are very apparent at high doses and .....hard to describe....had both oev's and cev's.

I did not find tolerance to be an issue. My last dance with this chem was pretty reckless. I did somewhere around 15 certainly at least 10 or 12...70mg doses each about an hour apart. In retrospect that was a bit crazy and I did wonder about psychological addiction. So..yeah..after that binge there was a multi-day hangover.
Taking that days activities out of the equation I did not notiice any significant hangover or afterglow. However I usually end my tripping with a dose of valium and whatever sleeping pill is currently on the market. This has been my practice for over 30 years.
 
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so how enhanced would the experience of this drug be while sitting on a field of grass or some similar cheesy scenario like that?
 
one thing im noticing is im moving quite slowly on this stsuff
 
lol did i underestimate this shit. wow. too bad you have to take a lot of it to feel anything
 
Care to give a proper evaluation of your experience with this chemical?

Dosage
Mindset
Experience
Activity

etc, etc

???
 
Did this chemical earlier tonight. What a beautiful substance. I took 3 small bumps within a half hour. Once the 3 beers had worn off, I found myself pleasantly surprised. Great introspection, very controllable thinking, interesting visuals, and not overwhelming at all. For the first time in a while, I feel completely free of depression. I had forgot what it feels like to feel naturally good, instead of going through life depressed with an optimistic attitude. I feel spiritually connected with life. Its like I have the benefit of a mushroom trip without the intensity or the sometimes whacky visuals. I can't tell you the dosage but I imagine it was on the lower side, but definitely higher than threshold. Whatever dosage it was, I feel like I could have been in school, able to snap out of the introspection and focus on a task at hand.
 
kingme said:
i think ive found a rather interesting use for this chem. namely, as a sitter's psychedelic.

a couple of friends were tripping on acid at a house, and i wanted to join in in their fun, but was too late to drop too, and had too little time at my disposal. so i bombed some 5meo-dalt with very satisfying effects. so visually there was nothing, but mentally it felt like i could be closer to them, we giggled for a few hours, played silly games, talked a lot and generally was merry, while enjoying thier music as well. it wasnt an acid trip, but i loved the experience.

plus i was able to sleep and rest, and my appetite wasnt hurt at all.
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Ohh good point. I could see myself doing this.
:)
 
i can't really explain what happened turing the trip on this substance. but what i do know is that when i woke up the following morning i had an overwhelming feeling of loneliness.
 
here's my own trip report

My trip report:

Frame of mind: clear headed and upbeat (no drug use for previous 24 hours)
Material: I have 5-MEO-DALT in freebase (which was the only version i could get) and decided against smoking it due to the putrid taste.
Oral doses seem to be more easier to control and is my chosen method.
Subject: (me) 55KG bodyweight - male

I measured up 21mg of 5-MEO-DALT freebase powder and ingested it in a gelatine capsule with water (at 10:20AM) food was consumed (lasagne) approx 1 hour ago.

+ 00:30 - feeling a slight bodyload which isn't at all uncomfortable also accompanied by a definate discernable headspace, that feels somewhat "floaty". reminding me of the time i took some philsopher stones once.

+ 00:40 - Sensations of a tingly energy is radiating from my core spreading through-out my body (the same kind of feeling I get when I'm excited). Random shivers are felt which just feels awesome the only thing that I can compare it to is like when you're having an orgasm

+ 00:60 - that floaty headspace feeling is coming on and it's relaxing - the only way to describe it would be spacey. music does sound a lot better also, i notice that my hearing sense is sharpened all of a sudden.

+ 01:30 - feeling really spacey - my visual awareness feels like it's shifting - no crazy visuals to report - although if i relax my focus things feel like they're moving ever so slightly. i also feel the urge to talk with people.. this isn't acted upon however. i remain in my own world, content with being as i am :)

+ 02:00 - still feeling pretty good - i decide to have a hit of cannabis. this immediately amplifies the spacey feeling - i put on some music and start dancing in my bedroom. music sounds amazing! i just get lost in the music. realising that my co-ordination is still pretty good and my creativity's also flowing and i feel like one with the music. a feeling of blissful connectedness. i'm listening to some tracks created by phaeleh (you can find him on soundcloud) some very smooth shit man.

+ 02:10 - random euphoric waves are pulsing through my body emanating from what feels to be my adrenal glands. these waves cause tingles in my body and feels really awesome. i wish i had a side-kick with me experiencing this as well.... which i feel would make it much more fun :) i think this stuff could be pretty fun in a club type setting.

+ 02:20 - intense hunger feelings noted at this time... and respectfully ignored LOL as i'm having far too much fun dancing. i decide to crack open a V energy drink and continue dancing in my bedroom. i'm still feeling really feeling good at this point. i'm also aware of similar confidence effects to alcohol or MDMA for me (i feel like i can do or say anything - and who's gonna stop me? YEOW!) :D

+ 02:30 - at this point i give in to the hunger feeling and decide to eat some mini choc chip cookies ... nomnomnom - the taste sensation is crazy (not sure if this was from the weed or the 5-MEO-DALT, or even a combination of both but food tastes absolutely amazing right about now) i finish the whole box of cookies without realising, until i get to the last one. hmmmmn i didn't even know i could be such a piglet - haha.

At this point i'm sitting here relaxing and thinking that i can smell 2 minute noodles being cooked, just outside my bedroom. Which makes me feel hungry AGAIN! Damn my room mate. lol

I quietly sip away at my V energy drink and continue contemplating. Still feeling good. My body seems to not want to sit still and i really have to consciously think about it to make it feel ok to just sit by my computer table.

I draw my focus on the events of my current life. Where I'm going and where I want to be.... introspecting a little bit. I realise that I was raised up in a relatively negative environment since birth - but I tell myself that everything's going to be OK. I'm sure of it. Because I will make it so.

These thoughts set my mind at ease and I allow myself to be in the moment once again.

+ 03:00 - the spacey feeling is still here and i continue to feel great (really upbeat, slightly euphoric) still feel like socialising although i'm currently at home alone and all my friends have gone to work. A cute girl texts me and I start thinking about her which puts a smile on my face.

the good feelings stick around until +04:00 and gradually and slowly tapers off - no harsh crashing or any comedown to note. An afterglow persists for a few hours following on.


My after thoughts:

* Very spacey, mellow and slightly euphoric (upbeat without being overbearing).
* slight bodyload feeling that stays with you throughout the experience
* Easy to control mentally (steering thoughts and being in control of your mental faculties)
* Not morish whatsoever (low abuse potential)
* Makes you want to eat which is unusual for a tryptamine.
* short lasting which is perfect - other tryptamine's can last a very long time duration wise (which may or may not be a plus depending on what you're doing)

Colours did appear more vibrant though as a psychedelic I feel 5-MEO-DALT is supremely lacking.
Otherwise the general energetic stimulation, music enhancing and appetizing effects of this chem are quite important to note. There's no heavyness to the chem's quality (it doesn't feel even the slightest bit overbearing like say LSD or a hard psilocybin trip can be)

The bodyload on my 21mg dose was managable and never felt out of control (definately not to the point of nausea). I really like the synergy between 5-MEO-DALT and a hit of cannabis. Makes me feel like dancing (which I normally love, when I'm high) and gives you a kick of energy.
The random tingles and shivers that borderline orgasmic were also fun. Gave me a feeling of excitement on the come up.

Overall a rather pleasant experience that I would do again (next time with friends and probably in a clubbing environment)

Would I recommend it to people who love true psychedelics? No. The reason why is because it's nothing like a traditional psychedelic whatsoever. Visual voyagers will find it unimpressive.

Therefore, I feel 5-MEO-DALT will disappoint many and be loved by only a few.

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i order a gram online today can't wait for it to be here ^_^
 
@Mike Boogie Nice TR report! That is exactly how I experience 5-MeO-DALT, I couldn't put it any better. A trippy, mellow unthreatening psychedelic that has you back to base line within 3 to 4 hours. Those 5-MeO-DALT munchies are something else though aren't they? I've seen it happen to so many people. I think your post will get moved by the mods to TR, so I hope any comments follow it over.
 
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