Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread - Part 2
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ShaggyFin
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Just make sure you have someone to have sex with, otherwise I wouldn't bother
I'm thinking of using it to make another chem more enjoyable.
anonone
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Better be careful with it; it only takes 5-10mg to feel something; I've heard of people fucking up when they got a whole g and tried to 'guess' what 10 mg looked like because their scale wasn't accurate enough
Just tried this 25mg gelcapped. Started off feeling mongy then got intense e like euphoria. It went up and down depending on music just like e.
Two and a half hours I would say it lasted then 90mins of residual.
Lovely stuff. HCL I had.
Very very tired next day just like E.
Tried smoking 7mg tonight and what a beautiful smell from it very aromatic indeed.
Not much of a hit though just like a joint of weed.
Must try plugging next.
Very good stuff for the price!
Two and a half hours I would say it lasted then 90mins of residual.
Lovely stuff. HCL I had.
Very very tired next day just like E.
Tried smoking 7mg tonight and what a beautiful smell from it very aromatic indeed.
Not much of a hit though just like a joint of weed.
Must try plugging next.
Very good stuff for the price!
Black Rabbit of Inle
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If you're using a scale that displays like this, be wary, it won't show a change from 21-29 mgs.
Just got sent a couple of branded pellet from an RC vendor purporting to contain 29% 5-Meo-DALT. The packet says it weighs 160mg, but I weighed the pellet at 130mg, so allowing for my scales being wrong (they aren't always accurate on low doses) it has 37-46mg of active ingredient in it. From reading this thread that seems a sensible dose if maybe on the low side.
I'm intrigued by comparisons to 2-CB, as 2-CB is pretty much the only proper psychedelic I feel comfortable out in public on. As I've only got two of these pellets so I can't really experiment beforehand, what are the likely effects of taking one pellet while out compared to 2-CB?
I'm intrigued by comparisons to 2-CB, as 2-CB is pretty much the only proper psychedelic I feel comfortable out in public on. As I've only got two of these pellets so I can't really experiment beforehand, what are the likely effects of taking one pellet while out compared to 2-CB?
Jesusgreen
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Has anyone had any bad/dangerous physical symptoms when pushing this to higher dosage rains? It seems to be the consensus that dosages of 60-70mg+ are required to get to a state of relatively strong tripping with this substance, with many people even reporting incredibly high doses of 100mg+, 5x+ the dosage listed in TiHKAL.
This seems very high particularly for a 5-MeO tryptamine and while people seem to say this is the preferable level in terms of positive effects I'm wondering if anyone has experienced complications at these dose ranges, and if so what.
I still have some of this stuff left over, 100mg or 110mg if I recall correctly, and I was thinking about taking 60-75mg orally for my next experiment since I've only messed with this one a few times now at small vaporised dosages for the "rush" and body high it produces - and would like to see where a more full experience takes me. I'm a bit wary about pushing the dosage so high though.
Although I quite enjoy the body high and feel this is the main aspect that made this worth exploring for me after just a few uses the taste of vaporised 5-MeO-DALT has become incredibly sickly and disgusting, and I feel like oral is probably going to be the way to go from now on, but if I'm going to go for oral I may as well go for a full on trip and not the lighter stimulating/entactogenic experience that low doses provide - since I was never able to push that high with vaping due to how bad it tastes.
This seems very high particularly for a 5-MeO tryptamine and while people seem to say this is the preferable level in terms of positive effects I'm wondering if anyone has experienced complications at these dose ranges, and if so what.
I still have some of this stuff left over, 100mg or 110mg if I recall correctly, and I was thinking about taking 60-75mg orally for my next experiment since I've only messed with this one a few times now at small vaporised dosages for the "rush" and body high it produces - and would like to see where a more full experience takes me. I'm a bit wary about pushing the dosage so high though.
Although I quite enjoy the body high and feel this is the main aspect that made this worth exploring for me after just a few uses the taste of vaporised 5-MeO-DALT has become incredibly sickly and disgusting, and I feel like oral is probably going to be the way to go from now on, but if I'm going to go for oral I may as well go for a full on trip and not the lighter stimulating/entactogenic experience that low doses provide - since I was never able to push that high with vaping due to how bad it tastes.
Morkin
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^ Jesus -here are my experiences with oral doses thus far:
Last week I tried Schulgin's 20mgs and had a similar experience to his - fast onset (20 mins), short duration (3 hours), no visuals and good sex with gf. (This is the main reason I think it was labelled correctly.) I took the oral route, mixed with water. The stuff tastes foul - strong chemical flavour (makes me shudder just to write about it). The onset/duration is the reason I believe this is DALT. I've never had such a fast/brief chem before.
Last night I took 50mgs (mixed in water - it doesn't mix especially well though - time for gel-caps!). Experience was similar. There's a "trippy" feel - a sense that you are "on" something and a sort of warmth in the chest. No negative somatic sensations. It felt good to relax with my gf & stroke her. The music wasn't especially enhanced or anything (it was Bach) but - again - sex was. Orgasm came after a longer build up and had a "flowing" rather than spasmodic intensity. No sort of erectile dysfunction. So far, this feels more like a sex drug.
Next I'm going for 70mgs.
Note: I'm 5.11, 150lbs, on no meds & am typically a tryptamine "hard-head" who usually needs extra LSD, 'shrooms, etc.
As above, but 70mgs.
First hour - heavy tracers. Felt a bit shaky. White objects seemed to glow a little.
Otherwise the same as 50mgs.
Last week I tried Schulgin's 20mgs and had a similar experience to his - fast onset (20 mins), short duration (3 hours), no visuals and good sex with gf. (This is the main reason I think it was labelled correctly.) I took the oral route, mixed with water. The stuff tastes foul - strong chemical flavour (makes me shudder just to write about it). The onset/duration is the reason I believe this is DALT. I've never had such a fast/brief chem before.
Last night I took 50mgs (mixed in water - it doesn't mix especially well though - time for gel-caps!). Experience was similar. There's a "trippy" feel - a sense that you are "on" something and a sort of warmth in the chest. No negative somatic sensations. It felt good to relax with my gf & stroke her. The music wasn't especially enhanced or anything (it was Bach) but - again - sex was. Orgasm came after a longer build up and had a "flowing" rather than spasmodic intensity. No sort of erectile dysfunction. So far, this feels more like a sex drug.
Next I'm going for 70mgs.
Note: I'm 5.11, 150lbs, on no meds & am typically a tryptamine "hard-head" who usually needs extra LSD, 'shrooms, etc.
As above, but 70mgs.
First hour - heavy tracers. Felt a bit shaky. White objects seemed to glow a little.
Otherwise the same as 50mgs.
I agree with Jesusgreen that the taste can be unbearable from vaping. My solution has been to vape single doses with an essential vaaapp vaporizer one vial at a time. By loading 25mg in a vial and using a jet flame lighter, up to 20mg could be inhaled in 1-2 successive inhalations, tasting fine. However, when reheating the 5-MeO-DALT and vaping the remaining amount there would be an overwhelming, truly terrible taste which would really dominate the experience. Try to avoid reheating 5-MeO-DALT and use single doses of fresh material each time.
RUSHDAFUNK
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Jesus,
I have gone to 100mg's. Enjoyable surreal trip. Wouldn't recommend for less experienced trippers. Body high goes into the background as the head trip takes center stage. Things seemed like they had plastic wrap over them, everything was more glossy. This is sim to other 5-meo's at high doses I have noticed. Also the confusion is more than I get at really high doses of phen's. I never have anxiety so not sure if it would cause anxiety in others. Confusion in the sense that things started to become unfamiliar. I could see objects in my kitchen fine, but I couldn't navigate to find things. As if I was in someone elses kitchen. Same way when I was outside. Streets and signed are all fine and readable, but everything seemed unfamiliar and it became easy for me to get lost. I guess this is almost like a disassociative type effect.
Because I enjoy to challenge myself mentally and never experience anxiety on psych's this experience was counted enjoyable for its uniqueness and challenging aspect.
I have gone to 100mg's. Enjoyable surreal trip. Wouldn't recommend for less experienced trippers. Body high goes into the background as the head trip takes center stage. Things seemed like they had plastic wrap over them, everything was more glossy. This is sim to other 5-meo's at high doses I have noticed. Also the confusion is more than I get at really high doses of phen's. I never have anxiety so not sure if it would cause anxiety in others. Confusion in the sense that things started to become unfamiliar. I could see objects in my kitchen fine, but I couldn't navigate to find things. As if I was in someone elses kitchen. Same way when I was outside. Streets and signed are all fine and readable, but everything seemed unfamiliar and it became easy for me to get lost. I guess this is almost like a disassociative type effect.
Because I enjoy to challenge myself mentally and never experience anxiety on psych's this experience was counted enjoyable for its uniqueness and challenging aspect.
Jesusgreen
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I can find some comparisons with 2C-B and this actually. They're very different in other ways but they're both extremely tactile and have some empathy to them. Many of the 5-MeO tryptamines share that aspect with 2C-B and similar psychedelics, it seems to be a characteristic of this subset of tryptamines.
With regards to the taste with vaporising it - it can be dealt with fairly easily. What I do is keep a nice big chocolate bar to hand, vape small hits at a time, and after each hit I take a few sips of juice and eat a tiny block of the chocolate bar. The juice gets rid of the immediate gag reflex and the chocolate then gets rid of the remaining taste. I'm sure other things work just as well but chocolate worked the best out of everything I've tried so far for this.
It's still nasty when the taste first hits but it doesn't last long this way, so if vaporising this compound is the preferred ROA for you then you can always try this. The issue for me is that when attempting to raise my doses a little the taste added a negative psychological component to the trip and made me feel a bit weird and anxious, and getting rid of the taste didn't quite completely eliminate it afterwards.
With oral dosing there's of course the option to bomb/parachute it in a rolling paper, bit of tissue, or something similar.
With regards to the taste with vaporising it - it can be dealt with fairly easily. What I do is keep a nice big chocolate bar to hand, vape small hits at a time, and after each hit I take a few sips of juice and eat a tiny block of the chocolate bar. The juice gets rid of the immediate gag reflex and the chocolate then gets rid of the remaining taste. I'm sure other things work just as well but chocolate worked the best out of everything I've tried so far for this.
It's still nasty when the taste first hits but it doesn't last long this way, so if vaporising this compound is the preferred ROA for you then you can always try this. The issue for me is that when attempting to raise my doses a little the taste added a negative psychological component to the trip and made me feel a bit weird and anxious, and getting rid of the taste didn't quite completely eliminate it afterwards.
With oral dosing there's of course the option to bomb/parachute it in a rolling paper, bit of tissue, or something similar.
^^ I found the taste of this compound to be actually quite pleasant except when trying to vaporise the compound in smaller sips over time. Vaped hard in one or two inhalations the compound remains fresh tasting. It was also necessary to throw the residual amount in the vial afterwards - that's truly disgusting (the taste of the 5-MeO-DALT gets worse as it is vaporised/subjected to heat over time).
As well as remaining fresh tasting, sweet even, getting a big hit fast delivers an incredible rush. I heat the vial with the loaded material and, as it is liquified by the jet flame, draw steadily and deeply as well as continuing to heat. This minimizes the temperature and shortens the heating time. The resulting vapor is smooth, almost sweet tasting with no bad side-effect from the taste.
As well as remaining fresh tasting, sweet even, getting a big hit fast delivers an incredible rush. I heat the vial with the loaded material and, as it is liquified by the jet flame, draw steadily and deeply as well as continuing to heat. This minimizes the temperature and shortens the heating time. The resulting vapor is smooth, almost sweet tasting with no bad side-effect from the taste.