Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread - Part 2
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PandaGun
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Dunno if people are still interested in this stuff anymore. However I had never tried insufflation of the hcl. 1 cup of coffee first so I could wake up (caffeine needy in the morning!) Then ate a decent meal.
SO I 30mg'd up me nose. Instant burn and throat irritation. Nothing that bad.
20 minutes later I could not sit still. Music sounded amazing but kept changing from amazing to average to boring. I listened to Drum n Bass as it seemed to go with how fast I was going. Mild but appreciated visuals and couldn't tell facial emotions from people. Feeling REALLY sped up almost on the same level as mephedrone and the whole walking around a park thing. Felt chatty so chatted a lot of shit on facebook.
-BPM approx 90.
Then I went for a skate (board) with definite psychedelic properties coming around. I couldn't tell my speed I was going at as the roads stretched and flexed. I forgot half the time I was on a board, which is natural to me, but there was a serious disconnection that I am going fairly fast with traffic and I could be in danger. Just like LSD and skateboards!
-BPM checked after I stopped at a corner. Approx 110-120. No vaso constriction noticed. No heavy pounding or seeming palpitations.
Now that I am coming down I don't feel bad at all no loss of natural energy for this time of day. DOES give you the munchies!???? It seems to be a diuretic. So anyone suffering from an UTI or damaged bladder take note!
All round, an amazing drug for 3 hours of fun.
Peaked for around 2 hours with residual stim at 3 hours still feeling nice. <Actually the visuals are staying rather than the stimulation at the 3 hour mark.
Powder consisted of that tan tryptamine colour. The drug was acquired off of a trusted (as trusty as you can get lol) vendor.
SO I 30mg'd up me nose. Instant burn and throat irritation. Nothing that bad.
20 minutes later I could not sit still. Music sounded amazing but kept changing from amazing to average to boring. I listened to Drum n Bass as it seemed to go with how fast I was going. Mild but appreciated visuals and couldn't tell facial emotions from people. Feeling REALLY sped up almost on the same level as mephedrone and the whole walking around a park thing. Felt chatty so chatted a lot of shit on facebook.
-BPM approx 90.
Then I went for a skate (board) with definite psychedelic properties coming around. I couldn't tell my speed I was going at as the roads stretched and flexed. I forgot half the time I was on a board, which is natural to me, but there was a serious disconnection that I am going fairly fast with traffic and I could be in danger. Just like LSD and skateboards!
-BPM checked after I stopped at a corner. Approx 110-120. No vaso constriction noticed. No heavy pounding or seeming palpitations.
Now that I am coming down I don't feel bad at all no loss of natural energy for this time of day. DOES give you the munchies!???? It seems to be a diuretic. So anyone suffering from an UTI or damaged bladder take note!
All round, an amazing drug for 3 hours of fun.
Peaked for around 2 hours with residual stim at 3 hours still feeling nice. <Actually the visuals are staying rather than the stimulation at the 3 hour mark.
Powder consisted of that tan tryptamine colour. The drug was acquired off of a trusted (as trusty as you can get lol) vendor.
crazycatman
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Well I still have a bag of it a few years old and am kinda interested in it. Is it possible to get any worthwhile visuals and other psy effects from it? Most I ever got was uncomfortable stimulation + a little twirling in my peripheral vision.
dancing_bear
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i have done doses up to 100mg with no ill effects (might have a bit of a tolerance now though). before i had scales i eyeballed amounts could have been 125-150 mg and my heart rate went up pretty high, i was feeling a lot of physical tension. if you want a more intense experience than 100mg can give you just go for another drug. i would say 20-30 mg is probably too low and the main reason a lot of ppl says it doesn't do much.
i love this stuff. it just feels so clean. it's nowhere near as intense as shrooms or cactus can be but on the upside wonderfully functional.
i did all my doses oral. works great have no idea why you would want any other ROA.
one more thing i've noticed - i used to smoke a lot of pot but now i've stopped it lasts a bit longer.
i love this stuff. it just feels so clean. it's nowhere near as intense as shrooms or cactus can be but on the upside wonderfully functional.
i did all my doses oral. works great have no idea why you would want any other ROA.
one more thing i've noticed - i used to smoke a lot of pot but now i've stopped it lasts a bit longer.
I feel like every time I've tried this, it's one of those drugs that Shulgin developed and decided it wouldn't be worth looking any further. I find the body and head LOAD to be far too hefty for the actual wanted effects. I can't remember the oral dose I did but all I did was be uncoordinated and loved tensing the erector spinae, resulting in back pain. I recently vaped a small dose and it just felt like I'd stood up far too quickly. I might give it one more chance in the future with weed and nos though, maybe some drugs just arent for some people
Just A Guy
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I think I've developed a tolerance to it rather quickly. Got 2 grams last week - couple weeks ago, and am down to about a gram. I "smoked" it first, and while it was tingly and rushy and kind of reminded me of a dxm trip for about a minute, the taste was so nasty. Insufflated, even 80mg didn't do much for me. (After having developed this tolerance.)
I dropped some concentrated doses in my ear canal to see if it would do anything and all of a sudden I could understand what my dog was saying. <----- just kidding
Just had that thought while on it, though. lol
I dropped some concentrated doses in my ear canal to see if it would do anything and all of a sudden I could understand what my dog was saying. <----- just kidding
Just had that thought while on it, though. lol
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Hello,
I received a sample of 5-MeO-DALT from a reliable source (100mg). The powder is extremely white/shiny, it looks like snowflakes or cotton-like. First time I saw a "powder" like that
I will try 5mg
I see a lot of mixed results here. I can't really define the effects of this chem... Does it feels euphoric or pushy ? Does it have a great bodyload ?
Is it hard on the heart ?
Anyway I will start very low (5mg) with oral consumption
Thanks !
I received a sample of 5-MeO-DALT from a reliable source (100mg). The powder is extremely white/shiny, it looks like snowflakes or cotton-like. First time I saw a "powder" like that
I will try 5mg
I see a lot of mixed results here. I can't really define the effects of this chem... Does it feels euphoric or pushy ? Does it have a great bodyload ?Is it hard on the heart ?
Anyway I will start very low (5mg) with oral consumption
Thanks !
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Just A Guy
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Just learned that in order for the plug ROA to work the freebase has to be converted to its salt. A little vinegar added to the solution and MAN I am tripping balls with just a small amount. Now I can skip the nasty smoking because it tastes so bad. (Orally it just doesn't have desired effect.)
Just A Guy
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Yes. 100mg with just enough water and vinegar (at about 50% ratio) to solute the 5-MEO-DALT.
Much more psychedelic. Visuals, auditories. Although very stimmy, too. and with lots of stress on the vitals, I can tell.
Very sexually stimulating. I mean, almost to the point where the ejaculatory reflex is engaged in the background of everything.
Much more psychedelic. Visuals, auditories. Although very stimmy, too. and with lots of stress on the vitals, I can tell.
Very sexually stimulating. I mean, almost to the point where the ejaculatory reflex is engaged in the background of everything.
Obsidius
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smoking 10mg of 5-meo-DALT reminded me of smoking 5-meo-DMT. very unpleasant onset. hard on the vitals, disorientating, vasoconstrictive (almost triggered a migraine). no visuals and quite nothing you might expect from a tryptamine, which lead me baffled. maybe i was not in the best shape that day, so i will try again.
is there a special ROA for this? vaping is not the way to go, it seems.
is there a special ROA for this? vaping is not the way to go, it seems.
Just A Guy
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The rectal ROA seems to be the most effective, short of intravenous, which I haven't and don't expect to do.
Dissolved in vinegar (acetic acid) or lemon juice (citric acid), common household acids, with some water to dilute the acidity a bit, it's a very fast, rather long-lasting experience. (three-four hours for high >75mg doses)
Try it out. Use a small dose at first, and you will still be amazed. 2g of this chemical goes very far in a very effective way.
The load is pretty damned heavy.
Dissolved in vinegar (acetic acid) or lemon juice (citric acid), common household acids, with some water to dilute the acidity a bit, it's a very fast, rather long-lasting experience. (three-four hours for high >75mg doses)
Try it out. Use a small dose at first, and you will still be amazed. 2g of this chemical goes very far in a very effective way.
The load is pretty damned heavy.
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solano
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I plan on buying the scale mentioned elsewhere in this thread:
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Gemini-20-Portable-Milligram/dp/B0012TDNAM
But still, working with doses as small as 20-25mg seems both to require extreme diligence and tiny measuring spoons, etc., and pushes the scale's accuracy to its limits. Also, my eyes and hands aren't cut out for such tiny, delicate work!
So, just to get things on a more easily manageable scale for working with, can anybody see a flaw with the following plan? I intend to combine one gram of the active substance with 3g of rice flour, then subdivide the 4g mixture into 40 (100mg) capsules, which should contain very close to 25mg of active substance in each capsule.
Seems to me that this would be not only less strenuous in terms of working with it, but it should enhance the accuracy of the scale (for our purposes), since a 4mg error would only contain 1mg of active substance. Therefore if you can get accurate dosing within 5mg, you should be only +/- a little over 1mg!
How is that not a good thing?
EDIT: Forgot to mention that to facilitate mixing, I would use a food container (the kind of container with a snap-on lid), add the 3-plus-1 grams of ingredients, seal the lid and shake vigorously for a minute or so, and then get busy portioning onto a slick paper (with the scale tared to the weight of the paper) for filling the capsules. Anybody not with me?
Solano
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Gemini-20-Portable-Milligram/dp/B0012TDNAM
But still, working with doses as small as 20-25mg seems both to require extreme diligence and tiny measuring spoons, etc., and pushes the scale's accuracy to its limits. Also, my eyes and hands aren't cut out for such tiny, delicate work!
So, just to get things on a more easily manageable scale for working with, can anybody see a flaw with the following plan? I intend to combine one gram of the active substance with 3g of rice flour, then subdivide the 4g mixture into 40 (100mg) capsules, which should contain very close to 25mg of active substance in each capsule.
Seems to me that this would be not only less strenuous in terms of working with it, but it should enhance the accuracy of the scale (for our purposes), since a 4mg error would only contain 1mg of active substance. Therefore if you can get accurate dosing within 5mg, you should be only +/- a little over 1mg!
How is that not a good thing?
EDIT: Forgot to mention that to facilitate mixing, I would use a food container (the kind of container with a snap-on lid), add the 3-plus-1 grams of ingredients, seal the lid and shake vigorously for a minute or so, and then get busy portioning onto a slick paper (with the scale tared to the weight of the paper) for filling the capsules. Anybody not with me?
Solano
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The powders still won't mix perfectly unfortunately, it's likely you'll end up with hotspots and sometimes consuming pure rice flour.
Honestly, unless you're fucked it's difficult to mess up the weighing process. I use a small screwdriver instead of a spatula, and it works perfectly. 1 heaped flat ended screwdriver = roughly 2mg, so I know roughly how many scoops it'll take to get 20mg or 40mg. I can then add that many heaped scoops and then change for the measure I want.
If your compound is stable in water and your scales aren't accurate, it's worth doing liquid measurements as found in the volumetric dosing thread somewhere
Honestly, unless you're fucked it's difficult to mess up the weighing process. I use a small screwdriver instead of a spatula, and it works perfectly. 1 heaped flat ended screwdriver = roughly 2mg, so I know roughly how many scoops it'll take to get 20mg or 40mg. I can then add that many heaped scoops and then change for the measure I want.
If your compound is stable in water and your scales aren't accurate, it's worth doing liquid measurements as found in the volumetric dosing thread somewhere
knock
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solano, I have that scale, and it's fucking good for the price. It seems capable of measuring doses as low as 4 or 5mg, and holds it's callibration like a bastard. It actually seems as good as the expensive Acculab VIC123 that I had a couple of years back! It just doesn't give you that sense of being in a laboratory, and doesn't take five minutes to set up. It can't be as accurate, but it always seems to get my calibration weights right.
If you're weight out single-digit milligram doses of a potent chemical you should use liquid volumetric measurement, but for chems that are just threshold at that level I think it's fine.
If you're weight out single-digit milligram doses of a potent chemical you should use liquid volumetric measurement, but for chems that are just threshold at that level I think it's fine.
thf
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I got myself some of this stuff recently. Tried a 50mg dose and didn't really get anything at all from it. With most drugs where this has happened (most), I usually push the dose up higher and see what there is to be seen. With this though for some reason I haven't. I don't know why, but it just doesn't call to me like the others have. Dunno why. Would you guys recommend it?