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The Big & Dandy 5-APB Thread

haven't tried the 5-apb hydrochloride yet but can say that its good that it doesn't stick to the baggie like the succinate. Pain in the ass trying to scrape it out with the succinate
 
Jesusgreen said:
If you felt some nausea at that dose I'd assume it would get worse with a higher dose honestly. It's worth noting that going by the effects people experience - and going by the EC50 values for 5-APDB and 6-APDB - we can assume that 5-APB is mostly only serotonergic with very little dopaminergic action - even compared to MDMA which is vastly less dopaminergic than 6-APDB & 6-APB in itself.
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thank you a lot for this interesting input! do you also have some good reasoing about how potent 5-APB and 6-APB are as serotonin receptor agonists?
 
sorry if its already been mentioned but can anyone briefly explain the differences between 5-apb & 6-apb. ive tried 6-apb on a few occasions but never 5-apb
 
As a general rule of thumb, effects which are shared between two drugs will cause tolerance to each other. Given the similar mechanisms of the two drugs I would expect some cross tolerance.
 
I've seen a few mentions of low-dose 5-apb being a social lubricant. To those that have found this effect, what dosage is useful for this purpose? I'm slowly working my way up from low doses and want to know where I'll begin to feel these sorts of effects.
 
Jesusgreen said:
we can assume that 5-APB is mostly only serotonergic with very little dopaminergic action - even compared to MDMA which is vastly less dopaminergic than 6-APDB & 6-APB in itself.
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Are you sure MDMA is LESS dopaminergic than 6-APB? I feel 6-APB is a lot less pushier and energetic than MDMA, which makes me want to bounce off the walls. Have any source for the EC50's of 6-APB?
 
I agree Infinity. The APBs, 5 and 6 have considerably less push than I remember MDMA having, though we're talking pills around 1990/91 which probably had other stims in the mix but even so, Good E has a lot more bounce and energy than the APBs. Only been out on them once, 6-APB and MPA mix to cut through the heavy, lazy, just wanna chill thing I get from APBs but even so nothing like the danceability, quite difficult to sustain for long. Nowhere near the energy needed to rock your bollox off for 6 hours straight! ;) Definitely not as euphoric as E either in those circumstances, though every bit is sociable and relaxed, chatty with strangers and liking them and stuff.
 
Not tried 5 on its own before. Always 6 on its own or a combo. 200mg in total last week, night of my life!
Anyway Experimented last night down the pub on a new batch of 5 powder. Only had approx 30mg. Rocket fuel :-/ more of a straight stimulation feel. Never panicky but not exactly comfortable. Vision had a slight yellow tinge too it for couple hours too. Maybe an old mans pub wasn't the right setting though.
 
since ive got some of this 5 stuff coming in soon, ive been wondering about the proper dosage for hardheads. tried the 6-apb once before, and ended up doing somewhere between 3 and 400 mg's of the stuff through the night, while at no point getting any real visuals (some colour enhancement only), was a very loving trip, but still clear headed (people couldnt tell from my behaviour that i was on drugs), slight gurning towards the end, social night out making new friends, and never really got "wasted". dosages were taken orally 70mg's at a time, weighed out to +/- 1 mg, every few hours.

im thinking about starting off with 100mg, and then packing 2 or 3 75mg capsules for later consumption. does this sound like a completely ridiculous idea, or like it might work out ok? do anyone have any suggestions?
 
Typically for releasers you dont go too much farther after you initial dose. 400mg is enough 6-apb for 2-3 people, you're better off starting with a dose of 120-150mg, most people find redose pointless on the apbs.
 
didnt initially plan to redose it either, but found that i needed extra's to keep me going, im thinking this might be due to some cross tolerance with md's. ive been reading around about it after the trip, and gotten conflicting messages, with people claiming everything from none, to low, to high cross tolerance. if that is the case, i should probably just learn to live with morbidly high doses.
i do however agree that i started off way to low on the 6-apb, and a higher initial dose with smaller boosters would likely produce a better high for me.
was the 120-150 a suggestion for initial 5-apb dose?
 
Hello bluelight I just got this stuff to do with my girlfriend for this upcoming holiday break. She loves the euphoria and talkyness that 6-apb gives and she loved the sex we had when we were on it. I thought it was ok like pretty awesome but i was expecting more from a substance such as 6-apb.

So I was wondering if anybody had sex on 5-apb and how it is compared to 6-apb? In JesusGreen's trip report he said that tactile sensations were better and gave off reasons why this would be better to do with a loved one, which by the way is exactly what im looking for. But the thing is so many people say otherwise.. I am extremely interested on how to have the best sex possible with her when I see her again for the first time in a month.

I still have a couple hundred mg of 6apb laying around and i will have 500mg of 5apb very soon. So what do you guys think? should i do 5-apb on its own like i originally planned? or maybe 6 would be better for what i am looking for or maybe even the combination together?
 
You could also consider doing a combination of 5 apb and 6apb, (50 of the 5 and 100 of the 6). I did that with my girlfriend and it was out of this world. It was like the best of both worlds, definitely real draining on serotonin though, nothing as bad as MDMA but probably pretty close ime.
 
Yeah, comboing definitely the way forward. Ratio there VisualMagic would be good I think too. Be getting on for something like 200mg 6-APB alone for me with the 5 HCl. Result definitely greater than the sum of its parts, 5-APB on its own I don't find quite so good as 6-APB alone, or the combo. In feel 6-APB dominates but the 5 seems to add a little more push for me, not quite so heavy and lazy.
 
I wonder if it is sane idea to do combination of 5-APB with some mild dose of tryptamine? 4-ho-mipt ? 4-Aco...?
 
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