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The Big & Dandy 5-APB Thread

arrall said:
This has seen a recent resurgence after 2 Chinese vendors began selling 5-APB mislabeled as 6-APB
PSA: 5-APB is significantly more potent than 6-APB, and you should not start with more than 80mg under any circumstances!


How did it compare to 6-APB other than potency?
More or less euphoric, empathetic, stimulating?
Similar duration?
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So I've only been able to try the compounds once so I don't have tons of experience. However in a nutshell i would describe the 5-APB as being a condensed MDA experience and the 6-APB was an extended less intense version of MDA. It was maybe a little more stimulating, but less euphoria. Very different duration IME. The 5-APB was 5-7 hours and the 6-APB i felt for a good 12 hours.

Also since my last post I have tried the 5-MAPB. I think I prefer MDMA.
 
Didgital said:
So I've only been able to try the compounds once so I don't have tons of experience. However in a nutshell i would describe the 5-APB as being a condensed MDA experience and the 6-APB was an extended less intense version of MDA. It was maybe a little more stimulating, but less euphoria. Very different duration IME. The 5-APB was 5-7 hours and the 6-APB i felt for a good 12 hours.

Also since my last post I have tried the 5-MAPB. I think I prefer MDMA.
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Condensed as in just more intense and shorter, or worthwhile in its own way beyond that?
 
I've got a sample of 5-apb coming in with 4f-mph. I love cathinones with a heavy dopa and a light to moderate sero touch like NEP or 3-MMC.

I've never tried 5-apb. I know I don't like straight up sero bombs or at least I know that I don't like 4-cmc or pure 3-fea. Although those two do mix well with dopa stims for me.

I was thinking of trying a light 40-50mg oral dose of 5-apb and insufflating 4f-mph on top of that to see if I get something like with NEP or 3-mmc.

I don't guess anyone else has tried something like this have they? Recommendations?

I'll report back hopefully before Sunday.
 
Didgital said:
So I've only been able to try the compounds once so I don't have tons of experience. However in a nutshell i would describe the 5-APB as being a condensed MDA experience and the 6-APB was an extended less intense version of MDA. It was maybe a little more stimulating, but less euphoria. Very different duration IME. The 5-APB was 5-7 hours and the 6-APB i felt for a good 12 hours.

Also since my last post I have tried the 5-MAPB. I think I prefer MDMA.
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I've not had the 5 (to the best of my knowledge), but I've had the 6 many times.


12 hours of fuckin bliss pretty much sums it up...
 
Hey guys. Just got my hand on a few grams 5 apb after a decade of not using 6 apb

Ive never done 5 apb only 6 apb and it usually hit after 1.5h

Im 1.45 min and i dont feel close to a high. i do feel something that kinda coming but its been the same for a hour. little little more the last 15 min. I took 70mg as it was said the last 5 apb from china is suppose to be super potent

I dont have any difference in eyes yet either

I really dident wanna take double the dose at my first time incease on sezure from just 100mg as some explain

can it really take 2h+ to kick in? ive given up the hope the last hour
 
Lordallmighty said:
Hey guys. Just got my hand on a few grams 5 apb after a decade of not using 6 apb

Ive never done 5 apb only 6 apb and it usually hit after 1.5h

Im 1.45 min and i dont feel close to a high. i do feel something that kinda coming but its been the same for a hour. little little more the last 15 min. I took 70mg as it was said the last 5 apb from china is suppose to be super potent

I dont have any difference in eyes yet either

I really dident wanna take double the dose at my first time incease on sezure from just 100mg as some explain

can it really take 2h+ to kick in? ive given up the hope the last hour
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It can take quite a while to reach the peak. The one thing I don't really like about 5-APB is the long, uncomfortable and drawn out come up. The peak is nice though. It can definitely take 2 hours to reach the peak. It has for me at least. 70mg should already be a fairly strong dose so I'd avoid taking anymore
 
SuperPsych said:
It can take quite a while to reach the peak. The one thing I don't really like about 5-APB is the long, uncomfortable and drawn out come up. The peak is nice though. It can definitely take 2 hours to reach the peak. It has for me at least. 70mg should already be a fairly strong dose so I'd avoid taking anymore
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Update: I dropped 70mg extra after i wrote this post, so around 150 in total, and after that dose the effect acually came on. But the euphoria wasent there. Just like last time doing MDMA and using NAC leading up to it. So it seems like NAC blunted alot of the effect.... again. Extremly frustrating

When i did MDMA tho i got a much bigger effect such as sedation/high, but without the euphoria. Wich would indicate that it was stronger then 5 apb (even tho both dident work). Tought 5 apb would be alot stronger then mdma, just like 6 apb but that wasent really correct

Next time il do 150-200mg i belive. This batch dosent seem to be the same people on reddit is warning about. Even if it had euphoria my first dose with 70-80mg wouldent be close to enough.

Back in the day when the first 6 apb batches came, me and my friend always dosed 300mg, with a redose of 200 hours later (not the succinate form). And it basically gave us a mephedrone high but for HOURS. litteraly laying in bed shaking/sezure for hours n hours - while you became one with the music

Those that take 200mg succinate and feel 6 apb isent great and mdma is better... they dose way to low.

6 apb when dosed high is the best substance ive ever used.

Had really high hopes with 5 apb but even if it had euphoria i think the dose much be much much higher
 
Lordallmighty said:
Update: I dropped 70mg extra after i wrote this post, so around 150 in total, and after that dose the effect acually came on. But the euphoria wasent there. Just like last time doing MDMA and using NAC leading up to it. So it seems like NAC blunted alot of the effect.... again. Extremly frustrating

When i did MDMA tho i got a much bigger effect such as sedation/high, but without the euphoria. Wich would indicate that it was stronger then 5 apb (even tho both dident work). Tought 5 apb would be alot stronger then mdma, just like 6 apb but that wasent really correct

Next time il do 150-200mg i belive. This batch dosent seem to be the same people on reddit is warning about. Even if it had euphoria my first dose with 70-80mg wouldent be close to enough.

Back in the day when the first 6 apb batches came, me and my friend always dosed 300mg, with a redose of 200 hours later (not the succinate form). And it basically gave us a mephedrone high but for HOURS. litteraly laying in bed shaking/sezure for hours n hours - while you became one with the music

Those that take 200mg succinate and feel 6 apb isent great and mdma is better... they dose way to low.

6 apb when dosed high is the best substance ive ever used.

Had really high hopes with 5 apb but even if it had euphoria i think the dose much be much much higher
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5-APB dose is about half of 6-APB. Next time I would recommend not taking NAC beforehand as NAC blunts the effects of almost all psychoactives. Save the NAC for after the roll. 150mg of 5-APB is a very heavy dose. You should be floored at that dose without NAC

Unfortunately I've only tried 6-APB once at around 100mg in not the best set/setting and had a lackluster experience. I wish it'd pop up again because I hear nothing but good things about it
 
SuperPsych said:
5-APB dose is about half of 6-APB. Next time I would recommend not taking NAC beforehand as NAC blunts the effects of almost all psychoactives. Save the NAC for after the roll. 150mg of 5-APB is a very heavy dose. You should be floored at that dose without NAC

Unfortunately I've only tried 6-APB once at around 100mg in not the best set/setting and had a lackluster experience. I wish it'd pop up again because I hear nothing but good things about it
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Its so frustrating cause i really tought the half life/elimination life would be up. But ive seen some post from people needing to stop NAC 2 weeks before, not just a few days before

I was really surpriced learning that 6 apb have been legal in netherlands for 10 years straight.. i tought all EU banned these compounds just like how they banned 4mmc,3mmc,4mec and so on so i stopped looking for it after the ban in europe. And right now after i just learning that its been legal in netherlands it turns out NL is about to mass ban basically every great drug thats been legal. Seems like they had some issues and postponed the ban but it will happen any day now
 
Lordallmighty said:
Its so frustrating cause i really tought the half life/elimination life would be up. But ive seen some post from people needing to stop NAC 2 weeks before, not just a few days before

I was really surpriced learning that 6 apb have been legal in netherlands for 10 years straight.. i tought all EU banned these compounds just like how they banned 4mmc,3mmc,4mec and so on so i stopped looking for it after the ban in europe. And right now after i just learning that its been legal in netherlands it turns out NL is about to mass ban basically every great drug thats been legal. Seems like they had some issues and postponed the ban but it will happen any day now
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21 january, wonder if there is a wash out period or immediate ?
Btw the outcome, so will it be accepted [or not] is on that date

Btw they are gone do this despite negative advise, from a kinda trust worthy name.
Then again putting it on your RC vendor page kinda raises the question.
What your aim harm reduction or money game.
 
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emkee_reinvented said:
21 january, wonder if there is a wash out period or immediate ?
Btw the outcome, so will it be accepted [or not] is on that date

Btw they are gone do this despite negative advise, from a kinda trust worthy name.
Then again putting it on your RC vendor page kinda raises the question.
What your aim harm reduction or money game.
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Putting what on my RC vendors name? i dident mention a vendor nor a name

Nor do i understand what you are talking about.

I took over a weeks break from NAC pre roll. still blunted
 
SuperPsych said:
Yeah I've had NAC mess with my drug experiences up to a week after my last NAC dose
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Damn a week for you too.

This makes me really worried in starting MSM (the sulfur that creates nac/methionine).
But its incredible for joint pain and energy

So if NAC wich should be out of your body in a day, MSM on the other hand have a 3-7 days half life... so possibly 20 days lasting

Its strange as ive seen DMSO be used as a solvent in mushrooms, and they wrote it had a MAOI effect and make the shrooms much stronger.
But 10-20% of DMSO creates MSM wich then creates NAC/methionine


Ive stopped MSM until ive had a few journeys. i cant keep getting blocked like this is driving me insaine
 
Lordallmighty said:
Putting what on my RC vendors name? i dident mention a vendor nor a name

Nor do i understand what you are talking about.

I took over a weeks break from NAC pre roll. still blunted
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A Dutch RC Vendor keeps me/ us updated on the situation.
On the site, not personal. And certainly not about you.
Sorry it came over as a that, miscommunication. Sorry.

Just watched the Dutch RC, they call them NPS.
Debate almost till the end.
Quite interesting watching your own Politician s at work.
4 and 1/2 hour long men, and they don t even use drugs !

Must say the ones promoting were full of shit.
The used manipulation tactics. Lied.
And made claims without staving em with facts

But the opposites quite well informed,
integer and discussed like i learned at school.


28 January we will get the conclusion.

Myself i don t use Emphatogen s that much any more.
Lysergic s took there place.

NAC helps with restoring MDMA.
Wish i knew back then.
 
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