• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ
  • PD Moderators: Esperighanto | JackARoe | Cheshire_Kat

The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1

Status
Not open for further replies.
I have yet to try this, still. I have 50mg to try sometime (not all at once). It's been months since I actually tripped (I've just been using AMT and occasionally low doses of tryptamines). But my AMT is gone now and I've decided to not trip again for quite some time to let my serotonin system go back to how it should be.

I guess the one nice thing about abusing AMT is that it caused me to stop tripping long enough to get back to where I want to moderate it.
 
squerll said:
The only thing that worries me so far with 4-ho-mipt is the reports of leg tremors, I think I was reading reports of that with another one of it’s close relatives also.
Click to expand...
The leg tremors don't feel toxic at all IMO. I associate them more to the intense body energy kinda thing miprocin tends to produce. It feels very nice to me.
 
it took one of my female research associates literally three and a half hours to feel 20mg of 4-ho-mipt, then she rocketed up to a +3 and had a completly normal trip afterwards. i couldent believe it, and for a while thought she was faking, but it was most definately real, i had been done for hours and she still had fully dialted pupils muscle tremors etc.
great chem BTW, i vastly prefer it over 4-aco-dipt, although i was a terrible researcher and ate one small mushroom (there were lots of mushrooms lying around) and 20mg was a bit of an underdose, so for me to say it is the most mushroom like 4-sub-t i have assayed might be a bit unfair. the visuals were more like 2c-e than any trypatmine i have tasted, pixelated and generally 'synthetic' looking.
since it is the first 4-ho-t i have tried it makes me wonder if buying 4-acos when you have the choice of the hydroxy is generally a bad idea, i wonder how big the difference in stability really is?
 
Trip report

So, I've done miprocin 3 times this far (after reading most of this thread fo guidelines, actually). I've never experienced the "shaky legs" kinda thingie. Also I never really bothered to take the time, so no accurate timings. Anyway, here goes trip report no. 1.

Dosage: ~10mg fumarate, ingested.
The previous night I had been to a DJ party, so that means a lot of alcohol plus ~250mg methylone later on. Don't know if that has affected the experience in any way.

I am not overly experienced with psychedelics, and since this was my very first time with this substance, I decided to play it safe, and measured 10mg on a digital scale. Since it is one of these cheap plastic things that you can buy for 20 bucks on ebay, I guess it isn't the most precise measuring tool, so it would be safe to say it was AROUND 10mg.

It was in the morning, and hadn't had anything to eat. After ingesting the substance I decided to head to a nearby park and have a walk. This doesn't taste good, so this experience made me order a bunch of gel caps :)

I felt the first effects about 20-30 minutes later. I suddenly felt tired, and also the onset of a light fever. I was a bit cold and felt shivers. This went on for about 30 more minutes I would guess. Also, I felt a mild stomach discomfort, but never to the point of vomiting. It wasn't pleasant, by all accounts, but it was bearable.

Around ~1 hour after ingestion I think the miprocin was acting at full strength (which, given the amount, wasn't a lot). Everything - trees, sun, flower, etc. seemed extremely beautiful. I was still tired, so I was walking around very slowly, and regretted not having brought anything to lie on. There were very slight visual distortions - the ground was breathing, sunlight reflections were moving, and it went on like this for some time. I would guess around 2 hrs or so. Could have been longer. Anyway, it was very mild, lazy, and pleasant. Just looking at the trees was unbeleivable. At this point I thought that smoking some weed would be really great (and I on subsequent occasions I found I was right :) ), but had none on me, so I just kept on walking around with a stupid smile until the effects wore off.

Even after I became totally sober, I felt some after-effects that I can't really define. It could have been a combination of the trip after effects with the alcohol hangover and that weird uneasy feeling I get after methylone.

All in all it was a great introduction to this chemical.
 
Not much action on this board, eh? I noticed that every time I've used this substance, I get cold, sweaty etc., just like coming down with a fever. It was pretty strong last time - my clothes were quite literally drenched! Have you guys experienced that?
 
dosage relative to 4-AcO-DMT

How do 4-HO-MiPT dosages compare to 4-AcO-DMT dosages? I.e., if one wants an intensity relatively equivalent to, say, 30mg 4-AcO, how much 4-HO-MiPT would one take?

EDIT: I believe I have the hcl salt
 
Last edited:
I suspect someone will pipe up with a better answer, but I can say for sure that 4-AcO-DMT is more potent by a good margin.
 
I wound up consuming 22mg. It was very different from both 4-AcO-DMT (which I've done perhaps 10 times, at dosages ranging from 5-40mg) and mushrooms (which I've done around five times at dosages ranging from 1-5 g dried, though i suspect the shrooms were weak).

The experience was very lucid and never rose above a +2, but there was a hint of confusion which felt shroom-like, and which has been utterly absent from all my 4-aco experiences regardless of dose. 4-aco generally feels totally malleable to me; it doesn't seem like there's any other consciousness or drive there other than my own thoughts and impulses. With the miprocin, there felt like there was something else there - I wouldn't go so far as to call it an entity or even a presence, but it felt like I wasn't totally in the driver's seat the way I do with 4-aco. Perhaps that feeling just stemed from the confusion. At any rate, that quality also reminded me of mushrooms.

Where it differed from mushrooms was the stimulation. I found it more physically stimulating than everything else I've tried save AMT, including 2 tabs decent LSD, 28mg 2C-E, and mescaline (independently, not at the same time). The stimulation wasn't unpleasant, but it was relentless: I was writhing, moving, clenching and unclenching hands, curling toes, etc (no jaw clenching though).

It took me about twice as long to come up versus 4-AcO-DMT: 90 minutes as opposed to 45 minutes. The peak effects were over by three hours, leaving me with a euphoric, giggly afterglow where I felt extremely, uncharacteristically social, the same as I get from 4-AcO. But the extreme physical stimulation didn't diminish in the slightest until about five hours in, when it dropped off with surprising, and welcome, rapidity. I'd assumed I would be up all night based on how intense the body buzz was even at 4:30.

Overall enjoyable and intriguing, but I doubt I'll try it again soon. I found it less useful as a creative catalyst than 4-aco, probaby because it was nearly impossible to sit still long enough to write. On the other hand for that very reason I'd favor it over 4-aco if I were going on a long hike. Similarly I could see it being a good choice if you want to dance all night. I'd like to try a much higher dose, but I'm concerned the stimulation might be too much.
 
4-ho-mipt fumarate + Marquis reagent

What would be the resulting colour if tested with Marquis reagent? (red?)
 
Got me two doses to sample sometime :D
Way excited, the stuff smells real strange but definitely that tryptaminey odor.

Does anyone know about the solubility of the fumarate in vodka or just plain ethanol?
It seems dissolution in water can be tricky...
 
Last edited:
^ I once dissolved some 4-ho-mipt in slightly warm water for injection, and it initially took some coaxing but seemed to be fine... but I do recall reading about the solution turning strange colors, etc. for some people...

You are most fortunate, Solipsis :D Miprocin is a connoisseur-quality psychedelic, and one of the most exquisite and inspiring chemicals I have tasted in my brief life...
 
Just be know when the time comes: what is a good starting dose, after testing for idiosyncracy?
 
I have the fumarate and I think 18 mg would be a good introductory dose... although 24-26 is really where it's at :)

O how I love Miprocin. Mmm mm mm mm mm <3
 
I have only between 30 and 36 mgs and I want to make the best of two experiences. One to get a feel for it and to estimate what would be a beautiful +++ without being swallowed whole and the other dose to achieve just that. I'm thinking first 13-14 mg then have the rest backed up.
 
^With it being your first trial, keep in mind that it can have astounding amounts of visual activity at doses in the lower teens of MG's.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top