The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1

[taktahan]

Hi, is it wise to mix this with 5-meo-mipt? Any bad interaction? Like 18 mg 4-ho-mipt + 7mg moxy?

 

[Achten]

Haven't tried it myself but seems like a nice combo. I would lower the doses though.

without tolerance, 25mg 4HOMIPT let my being experience everything from the big bang until now.
, 7mg 5MEOMIPT was very visual for the first hour, after that it was a mellow ride.
If I would combine them I'd take 15mg 4HOMIPT and 3-5mg 5MEOMIPT for the first time. You can always go higher next run.

 

[Ballz_Trippington]

Got to try this this weekend @40 mg (+200mg E) during the come up, the thought had crossed my mind that maybe I should have taken 10mg less of the Miprocin. After the come up I had a wonderful time! Really impressive stuff with some unique visuals. Also, the cone up made my girlfriend and I extremely horny and if we weren't at a party with people we would have taken advantage of that fact! After the come up, the desire for sex didn't seem to be there any longer.
Really fantastic stuff.

 

[MagickalKat777]

4-HO-MiPT, 4-AcO-MiPT, and 5-MeO-MiPT all made me incredibly horny. DiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, and 4-AcO-DiPT did as well but to a much smaller extent. 5-MeO-DiPT I was too dizzy to fuck but I was very horny.

Interesting effect of those chemicals.

I would love to have this one again. Quite the friendly chem. And quite frankly absolutely AMAZING on an E comedown.

 

[Ballz_Trippington]

Moxy made me super horny on the cone up as well! Must be something about the MIPT. I am also curious about combining Moxy & Miprocin. Seems like it would be orgy material for sure!

 

[Raga_Mala]

I wonder if I can pose a question that will demonstrate my lack of varied experience. In general, the comparisons here have been to other closely-related (4-substituted) tryptamines. I wonder if someone can give a general summary of the qualities of 4-substituted tryptamines for someone who has never tried any. I am soon to have the opportunity to enjoy miprocin, and would like to know what to expect, however, comparisons would be most useful to me if they were broader and less fine-tuned. My previous experiences are with mescaline, 2C-E, 25i-nbome, LSD and mushrooms. Can someone give a comparison of miprocin to these substances?

 

[bloodshed344]

I haven't done miprocin, but I've done 4-HO-DET and 4-ACO-MET... I'll just give you a quick rundown of the "tryptamine" feel. With 4-AcO-MET you feel like it propels you into a 2C-E trip but REALLY fast (you can actually FEEL the drug when you take it, unlike 2C-E) and with lesser visuals at a low dose. I haven't explored the high dose. With 4-HO-DET and 4-ACO-MET both I felt like they were good, extremely comfortable stimulating psychedelics that gave a punch when coming up (especially 4-HO-DET and probably 4-HO compounds in general)

The feelings of a tryptamine come-up:
warmth
rushes
scattered thoughts
opiate-like euphoria
(for me) feeling of a swelled throat
tendency to cry or feel in awe
and finally... sweaty armpits.

Some of the 4-subbed tryptamines give an energy-filled "2C-E like" feel which just gives you an afterglow of energy and mindfulness. Some are more sedating, resulting in experiences where the mindfulness is either completely diminished are infinitely enhanced. 4-AcO-MET seems like a more stable trip than 4-AcO-DMT which never seemed to work right for me. With 4-AcO-MET I feel like I can get there every time. The come-up is quick and redosing is better than with most other compounds because of the unique mix of modest tolerance from tryptamines and the time frame of the substance... you can feel it fast.

I don't have a comparison though, but I just wanted to relate on the 'energy' I feel from this class of substances you're about to try. I'm sure 4-Ho-MiPT has this energy and in truth it was the first research chemical that I wanted to try. I read a few trip reports and it sounded like it was very divine.

 

[sean107]

Lucid dream feeling type of trip like mushrooms.

 

[porkstock]

I took 30.0mg 4-aco-dmt fumarate which I found strong like a factor of at least 2 to almost 3 times compared to 23mg 4-ho-mipt.

(btw I have a professional mettler toledo 0.1mg readability and repeatability analytical balance, so I can way up to 0.1mg)

i think this just goes to show how we all react differently. i find that i need at least 30 mg 4-aco-dmt fumarate to guarantee a noticeable trip. it's moderate intensity, yet could be strong on psychological effects.

with miprocin fumarate, i've only taken it up to 23 mg and this was definitely on the stronger side of moderate, with maybe a slight headache and other negative side effects starting to make themselves known.

point is: i prefer ~35 mg 4-aco-dmt and ~20 mg 4-ho-mipt, both fumarate, and both weighed on an analytical balance accurate to 0.1 mg as well


to be fair though, i could have gotten lucky and got a super pure batch of miprocin, or not so lucky and got impure or degraded 4-aco-dmt.
there are many factors at play.

I wonder if I can pose a question that will demonstrate my lack of varied experience. In general, the comparisons here have been to other closely-related (4-substituted) tryptamines. I wonder if someone can give a general summary of the qualities of 4-substituted tryptamines for someone who has never tried any. I am soon to have the opportunity to enjoy miprocin, and would like to know what to expect, however, comparisons would be most useful to me if they were broader and less fine-tuned. My previous experiences are with mescaline, 2C-E, 25i-nbome, LSD and mushrooms. Can someone give a comparison of miprocin to these substances?

oh hey, raga. you're probably heard me talk about miprocin enough, but i haven't answer this specific question.

4-sub tryptamines inevitably get compared to mushrooms. for me, i find miprocin to be like a less serious, more lighthearted cousin of mushrooms. the trip will start soon after swallowing the powder, as someone stated above, this is unlike 2ce that takes 50-60 minutes to be felt. i have felt miprocin working within 10 minutes i think, when mixing the powder in a drink.

the comeup can come with some nervous energy, feels like excess energy...i want to move around but dunno what to do. it's not the flu like symptoms of a 2ce come up. it's kinda similar to the comeup of a strong dose of LSD. rapid and full of energy.


the trip from miprocin is kinda smooth and flowing - pastel colors and trails. more like LSD for me..yet different. not like the chaotic nature of 2ce. miprocin actually reminds me of 2ce's more gentle and mellow cousin 2cb.

side effects of miprocin are virtually non-existent IME. maybe a slight headache or gas, like a good dose of LSD. 2ce leaves me feeling shitty.

 

[Ballz_Trippington]

40mg of 4-ho-mipt gave me pretty bad muscle tremors in my legs for the first hour or so the only other material that did that to me was Allylescaline.

 

[:DNA]

i think this just goes to show how we all react differently. i find that i need at least 30 mg 4-aco-dmt fumarate to guarantee a noticeable trip. it's moderate intensity, yet could be strong on psychological effects.

with miprocin fumarate, i've only taken it up to 23 mg and this was definitely on the stronger side of moderate, with maybe a slight headache and other negative side effects starting to make themselves known.

point is: i prefer ~35 mg 4-aco-dmt and ~20 mg 4-ho-mipt, both fumarate, and both weighed on an analytical balance accurate to 0.1 mg as well


to be fair though, i could have gotten lucky and got a super pure batch of miprocin, or not so lucky and got impure or degraded 4-aco-dmt.
there are many factors at play.



oh hey, raga. you're probably heard me talk about miprocin enough, but i haven't answer this specific question.

4-sub tryptamines inevitably get compared to mushrooms. for me, i find miprocin to be like a less serious, more lighthearted cousin of mushrooms. the trip will start soon after swallowing the powder, as someone stated above, this is unlike 2ce that takes 50-60 minutes to be felt. i have felt miprocin working within 10 minutes i think, when mixing the powder in a drink.

the comeup can come with some nervous energy, feels like excess energy...i want to move around but dunno what to do. it's not the flu like symptoms of a 2ce come up. it's kinda similar to the comeup of a strong dose of LSD. rapid and full of energy.


the trip from miprocin is kinda smooth and flowing - pastel colors and trails. more like LSD for me..yet different. not like the chaotic nature of 2ce. miprocin actually reminds me of 2ce's more gentle and mellow cousin 2cb.

side effects of miprocin are virtually non-existent IME. maybe a slight headache or gas, like a good dose of LSD. 2ce leaves me feeling shitty.

just wanted to say I think this is an amazing post and I agree with every bit of it, down to the 2C-B comparison. So true. Although miprocin isn't nearly as colorful for me as 2C-B is, that's more in the realm of 4-HO-MET IME, though everything else about it compares pretty much. An excellent characterization of this compound, thanks man!

 

[porkstock]

hey, thank you!

 

[Adivinos]

Miprocin is an amazing chemical, I almost prefer it to psilocin. The possibility of 4-ho-mipt and 4-po-mipt producing mushrooms is something that I am very interested in. Anyone have experience in supplementing psilocybe cubensis mycelia with methylisopropyltryptamine? Anyone have experience combining 4-HO-MiPT and 5-Meo-MiPT? Sounds sennnnsualllll.

 

[Achten]

Miprocin is an amazing chemical, I almost prefer it to psilocin. The possibility of 4-ho-mipt and 4-po-mipt producing mushrooms is something that I am very interested in. Anyone have experience in supplementing psilocybe cubensis mycelia with methylisopropyltryptamine? Anyone have experience combining 4-HO-MiPT and 5-Meo-MiPT? Sounds sennnnsualllll.

Given the relatively low availability of MiPT it's not really desirable, IMO. Just buy some 4HOMiPT

I haven't combined 4HOMIpT and 5MeOMiPT. Sounds sensual you say ? I'd say "universe porn"

 

[porkstock]

i've never tried 5-meo-mipt, so of course i've not considered combining that with miprocin, but i have considered miprocin with:

4-aco-dmt. seems like they might add up to something greater than the sum of its parts? 4aces' introspective seriousness coupled with miprocin's recreational easy going nature. or maybe they would contrast in a not so great way?

2cb. since i just said how miprocin reminds me of a tryptamine version of 2cb...i naturally became curious of this combination. they both last ~4 hours for me. seems like it could be a great trip, but so is miprocin by itself

lsd. these two would be combining my two favorite psychedelics, so it would likely be pretty awesome.

 

[porkstock]

redosing miprocin?

I'd like to ask about re-dosing miprocin. My goal is to prolong the peak, not make it more intense (for that I would increase initial dose)

I've gotten advice her from one person to take half of my initial dose ~2 hours after the first.

Does this sound about right?

I'm asking mostly about the timing? Would I want to re-dose it before I hit the peak, or during the peak?

Thanks!

 

[progressive]

I'd like to ask about re-dosing miprocin. My goal is to prolong the peak, not make it more intense (for that I would increase initial dose)

I've gotten advice her from one person to take half of my initial dose ~2 hours after the first.

Does this sound about right?

I'm asking mostly about the timing? Would I want to re-dose it before I hit the peak, or during the peak?

Thanks!

It depends on how you take it and when you start feeling something.

I take capsules and it always starts between 45 and 55 minutes after the 1st capsule, taken on a light stomach (few hours after lunch/dinner). After another 30 minutes I hit the peak. Then when Im on the (slightly decreasing) plateau for 30 minutes, it slowly weares off in a few hours.

I prefer taking the 2nd at 2 hours, so which is halfway / near the end of the plateau, then I take half of the initial dose.

Last time I took 23mg and another 13mg at 1.30. Must say I do like taking it at 2.00 and half of what initially took more.

 

[porkstock]

i take mine as powder mixed into a drink. i've always taken 2ce, 2cb, 4-aco-dmt that way. but miprocin seems to hit very fast, within 10 or 15 minutes.

i'd say i'm probably on the peak at ~2 hours, but it's hard to say. i don't keep track of time that well when tripping


but if my preferred dose is 18 or 20 mg, then i could dose ~9 mg at the 2 hour mark to increase the duration?

thanks again.

edit:

let's make that re-dose roughly 1.5 hours after initial dose?

 

[Achten]

but if my preferred dose is 18 or 20 mg, then i could dose ~9 mg at the 2 hour mark to increase the duration?

thanks again.

works for me ! Although 2hours is maybe stretching it, anything under is definetly OK.

 

[porkstock]

just dosed ~17 mg miprocin for a nice evening in. don't think i'll try re-dosing tonight though, since i'll probably be tripping til after midnight already.