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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-HO-DiPT Thread

DwayneHoover said:
4-ho-dipt hits really fast and hard, faster than almost anything else. Dont expect much psychedelia.... its primarily an intense highly sensual body buzz. Do it with a partner who is ready to play, or if on your own have a porn video ready because you are going to need to work off the huge energy rush that it gives you. Thats the best use for it IMO.
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ive had 1 +++ experience with Iprocin.
And while it was very sensual it was also mildy psychedelic.

I do remember thinking at the time that it was much more deserving of the name foxy than 5 meo dipt.
 
^ heh, yet I thought that too after later trying "Foxy," which is pretty lame in comparison so far as sexual stimulation goes. And yea, I guess Iprocin could be psychedelic if you focused it that way... it seems very malleable and controllable and that you can channel it in different directions with a little concentration... me of course, being somewhat of a male nympho personality type, tend to have only ONE thing on my mind once everything starts to tingle. =D That sort of "energy release" on this stuff, if you end up doing that with it, can be VERRRY rewarding in terms of OMG! levels of intensity, btw, FYI. 8o
 
Anyone else experience restless legs with this compound? I do and it very much reminds me of opiate withdrawal syndrome and anything that reminds me of that is always unpleasant. It puts a damper on the experience with this compound. Something that doesn't happen with other trypt's that I have tried including, DMT, 4-ho-DMT, 4-aco-Mipt, bufotenine, 5-meo-dmt and some others.


Also I'm curious....I've read somewhere that, as with DIPT, 4-ho-dipt causes pitch bending but I have yet to experience this phenomenon on 4-ho-DIPT from doses as low as 18mg up to 35mg.
I have yet to try Dipt but I hope to soon as I'm very interested in this pitch bending effect.
Of course I've experienced aural phenomenon from other psyche's, especially vaporized DMT, but from what I've read it's a much more specific effect that is supposed to come from DIPT/4-ho-Dipt,
 
hmm, just had a relatively nice but very mild experience at ~15mg (could be a bit less i suppose, but over 12mg for sure). relaxing is the word

either i need to up the dose or perhaps my chem has suffered in storage or is a strange batch, but i think this requires a bit more to get full effects, even though i am after 2 weeks of staying away from anything, and i didnt have a tolerance prior.

i did get very mild shivers, very much like the ones you get in cold air, but not unpleasant at all. not much euphoria either, nor oev, just mild cev... what made the experince interesting and relaxing is that i was able to enjoy the quiet night outside, and for me at least proved a rather sedate experience

certainly not enough to put this chem in my top 5. not dismissing it completly either, just marking that for me a bigger dose is needed next time
 
Once again, dont expect significant psychedelic effects from this. Its only TRUE use is as a sexual stimulant extraordinaire. Those restless legs and shivers are the result of a deep inner muscular hyper-excitation unique to this chem (and the HO version) that causes orgasms and sensations leading up to them to become UTTERLY MIND BLOWING.

Yes, 15mg is very low. Try more like 35-45mg, and be sure to have a partner willing to help with your VERY URGENT "needs", or some porn at the ready.

Trust me on this ;)
 
not so sure of that. if anything i feel that the tension i get from the -ho is rather similar to the one i feel on PEAs, most notably 2c-d, a smooth tension that is equal across the body, and which i find unpleasant after a while.

i might give this more tries at higher levels, but honestly think this would just be more useful added to other trips.
the short duration and fast onset seem to make it a candidate for 5-meo-dalt combination. anyone have experience with combos? (beside K which is already discussed :p)
 
This stuff seems pretty sensitive to dose - I tried about 16 mg orally my first time, just to ease myself into it, and got absolutely nothing out of it. The only thing I felt was a rush of euphoria for about 2 seconds and I thought "oh shit here goes!" and then it fizzled and nothing else happened. My second time I tried 22 mg orally from the same batch, and it was fucking STRONG. I was alone so I basically chilled on my computer and listened to music and watched a movie and I was on the verge of not being able to grasp what was going on around me. Not very psychedelic, no visuals of any kind, but I was really, really stoned, with a great body high. My thought processes were pretty weirded out too, and it seemed to heighten my normal emotions; funny things were REALLY FUNNY, sad things were REALLY SAD, etc. Oddly enough I had lower back pain prior to the trip, as I often do (muscular) and it went away afterwards. Maybe the muscle tremors loosened me up? Not much of a hangover to speak of, except emotional I guess, as toward the end of the trip I went through some serious self-examination. I was fine at work the next morning.

I have a hard time imagining I could do anything on a higher dose, much less something that requires as much coordination as sex with a partner - but then maybe the instincts would just take over. In any case, 4-HO-DiPT definitely seems worthwhile and I'll try pushing the dose a little next time.
 
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^ yes, the instincts just take over. With a partner might be a bit chaotic you are right, so its best best use is probably for oneric activities. Without a focus you just feel sort of plastered all over. But with a focused and energetic activity, the material seems very malleable and its effects I FIND anyway form themselves along with the activity. If you just sit there waiting for "stuff to happen" yea it is probably just kind of bleh. This is one you MUST CONSCIOUSLY *DO* SOMETHING WITH.

And yes it does combine nicely with other things. Ive added it to Methylone after that has stabilized at its peak with great highly euphoric effects and no notable body issues... is intense though so be forewarned to expect, um, alotta G's (g-forces, gravity, acceleration, etc)
 
Very interesting, thanks for the pointers...yeah, I very much got the feeling that some more planning would have improved my trip. 4-HO-DiPT reminds me in this way a lot of 5-MeO-DALT, except with a more intense "stoned" feeling, a more pronounced body high, and less psychedelia.
 
I've taken 4-aco-dipt three times, at fairly low doses (15-18 mg) and I've really enjoyed it. The visuals aren't dramatic, but they are psychedelic, and they are there. I enjoy the low level psychedelic experience, the head-space. Fully functional in the real world, but...everything is different. The world appears candy-colored in gorgeous pastels. My mind making interesting and intuitive connections. This is a great substance to take if you are out on a sunny day with friends.
 
recently had the pleasure of trying this again, at a low dose again, and this time it felt a lot better... ~18mg oral were consumed on an empty, and the total experience lasted ~3h. the experience was quite nice overall, nothing too extreme, getting some nice body vibes with it, and indeed, i could feel this chemical might be a good aphrodisiac.

it also seems to deliver quite an uncomplicated trip at these doses at least. there was no negative body load at all, and there were no psychedelic insights, but my mood was way lifted, my senses were accute, and my music sounded awesome.

speaking of music, ive noticed that it sounded somewhat .. different. like it was really loud but in a way that didnt seem to damage, the bass was waaay low, more tha i remembered for those tracks at least. maybe i was imagining it though, who knows. anyone else got this? usually when tripping i love the music because of the details, but here it seeme lower frequencies were just more detailed tham midtones for instance... placebo?
 
DwayneHoover said:
^ yes, the instincts just take over. With a partner might be a bit chaotic you are right, so its best best use is probably for oneric activities. Without a focus you just feel sort of plastered all over. But with a focused and energetic activity, the material seems very malleable and its effects I FIND anyway form themselves along with the activity. If you just sit there waiting for "stuff to happen" yea it is probably just kind of bleh. This is one you MUST CONSCIOUSLY *DO* SOMETHING WITH.

And yes it does combine nicely with other things. Ive added it to Methylone after that has stabilized at its peak with great highly euphoric effects and no notable body issues... is intense though so be forewarned to expect, um, alotta G's (g-forces, gravity, acceleration, etc)
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Mr Hoover,
I must say I've been following you on several threads and like your posts, both style and substance!
As a fellow onanist, and general sex-fiend, I've grown a bit out of weed and the synth-analogs I'm forced to use due to my job possibly testing, these were recently banned in my state in anycase. But since i have a stash of synthetic weed left over from the brief legal days, I was wondering if you'd tried iprocetyl with weed yourself at any point? I'd imagine things could get delightfully filthy with or without a fuckbuddy. Thoughts?
PS I have no idea what is actually in my synthetics JWH?? but no adverse effects when used in tiny amounts (100mg or less per toke) and a very authentic THC like aphrodisiac effect.
 
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billabong said:
Mr Hoover,
I must say I've been following you on several threads and like your posts, both style and substance!
As a fellow onanist, and general sex-fiend, I've grown a bit out of weed and the synth-analogs I'm forced to use due to my job possibly testing, these were recently banned in my state in anycase. But since i have a stash of synthetic weed left over from the brief legal days, I was wondering if you'd tried iprocin with weed yourself at any point? I'd imagine things could get delightfully filthy with or without a fuckbuddy. Thoughts?
PS I have no idea what is actually in my synthetics JWH?? but no adverse effects when used in tiny amounts (100mg or less per toke) and a very authentic THC like aphrodisiac effect.
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100mg is a huge amount of jwh to smoke PER TOKE lol
 
4-aco-DiPT it's almost 'game on' time...

After more research online, I'm going to get some 4-aco-DiPT. (I can't find the 4-HO-DiPT DwayneHoover refers to here
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/554553-The-Small-amp-So-Far-Insignificant-4-AcO-DiPT-Thread/page2 ) but the 4-aco sounds smoother for a noob like me.

Erowid notes no legal issues pertaining to 4-aco_DiPT anywhere other than Japan and Sweden, but since UK sites don't offer it among their ever-shrinking menus and generally 'iffy' concoctions I can only presume Erowids' page for the 'legality' of 4-aco-DiPT in the UK is well out of date?

As for aMT, it seems to have as many train-wrecks as glowing reports, so much so that I'm not even gonna bother - don't need me or my GF spinning out/puking on something as notoriously fickle and capricious as aMT. I've been planning this sex-marathon for weeks! =D
 
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had the pleasure of mixing this chemical (4-ho-dipt) on the way down from a aMT trip. the amt dose was ~15mg, and after 5h i added ~15mg 4-ho-dipt.
what an awesome sensation. last time, i dosed a bit higer on its own, but the combination was pure body pleasures. the erotic was greatly enhanced, almost unbearably so, i was feeling tingles all over, for about 2h. there was no sign of any visual effects, but the music sounded out of this world.
i felt the effects of the 4-ho-dipt come on then gently fade away at the 2:30h mark. i had the most incredible (though self caused eh;) ) orgasm ever, i could barely walk afterwards as i was still trembling from the intensity... the next 2 hours i was listening to music completely immersed in the beauty of the notes.... such a worthwhile chemical...

no sign of nausea, only a bit of trembling in the extremities, but nothing worrisome. no CEVs or OEVs, which i know might not be to the likes of some. also, i wasnt able to notice any change in musical perception, as all the music i listened to was new so i had no means of comparison.
 
^Yes indeed both the 4-ho and the 4-aco DIPTs are just so deliciously erotic... "almost unbearably so" as you very aptly put it. Thanks for the report that the combo went well... they do seem to work well on the tail end of stimulants... I have added 4-aco-dipt to Methylone as its peak begins to wane to similarly shuddering effect. Glad to hear you enjoyed yourself so thoroughly!
 
So, yesterday i decided to give this one a go after being really happy with what i experienced with 4-HO-DPT a week ago, so i dosed approx. 12mgs nasally to see how things are going, followed by another 15mgs approx. 1- max. 1 1/2hrs later.

Man, this stuff is really strong! ~25mgs up the nose were pretty intense, my sensory input was dramatically enhanced to a point being almost too much for me tbh, everything i heard was pitch-bending (even more so than on comparatively 4-HO-DPT) and my vision became a wobbling mess with CEVs/OEVs like i haven't experienced them before.

Pupils were hugely dilated (just took a look @ the beginning of the experience) and i felt some annoying leg tremors/shivering along with some nausea, that persisted at least 1/3 of the whole experience and got better during the final parts of it, changing into an incredibly erotic body buzz.

It literally really felt like being witness of having a wet dream at night and feeling the build-up of an head-orgasm just by being totally immersed in an almost dissociative headspace, that resembled MXE a lot in some ways.

Music was insane on this one!

All in all it was a bit too high dosed i think (at least for the 1st time) but really impressive, unfortunately i wasn't prepared for that much.

The whole experienced lasted a good 3-3 1/2hrs which felt like a lot more, with aftereffects of another 1-2hrs.

What i took was the HCl by the way.
 
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