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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-MiPT Thread

4-AcO-MIPT is on some level as pleasant as heroin, I find. But it's clearly a very different drug - at least the batches of it I have tried (the fumarate and the free base).

I've tried it about 5 times now over the last year... orally and and nasally and plugged - albeit always in a peaceful state of mind to start with - at dosages ranging from a meagre 9mg (which was my first time) to a whopping 50mg (some of it plugged) ... my favourite tryptamine by far at the moment because it is so pleasurable. But it's not heroin.... heroin doesn't give me OEV's and makes me want to close my eyes and curl up and it makes me itch... and obviously it lacks truly psychedelic insight (imho). Though it seems to me 4-AcO-MIPT may have a tranquilising effect to it... I feel a bit floored (pleasantly), am unable to reach orgasm, and there is simply no fear response at all.

Until I try 4-AcO-DMT again, for so many positive comments have been made about that one, this shall remain my favourite tryptamine. More abuse potential than most others, though, as it doesn't seem to go quite as deep as some. In an indoor setting (because the body gets a bit heavy, in a pleasant way) this is easier to handle than some 2C's even. And so nice.... consistently, in my case.

Have there been any studies done on 4-AcO-MIPT and its mechanism of action ?

The way it leaves me calm and collected (as opposed to some psychedelics that leave me scattered and a little tense) is truly special. Of all those I have tried, only MDMA or MDA can do that, or perhaps 4-AcO-DMT (which also felt peaceful when I tried it, although I haven't explored it properly yet).
 
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I cant wait to try this one out as I have a confirmed batch. I once had a very remarkable trip on what was supposedly 5-MeO-MiPT and had no nausea, very quick comeup, very intense visuals, and very deep cosmic thoughts, but now I may suspect it may have been 4-AcO-MiPT.
 
Psychedelics_r_best said:
I once had a very remarkable trip on what was supposedly 5-MeO-MiPT and had no nausea, very quick comeup, very intense visuals, and very deep cosmic thoughts, but now I may suspect it may have been 4-AcO-MiPT.
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what you describe sounds like it may well have been 4-AcO-MiPT cos it surely doesn't sound anything like 5-MeO-MiPT. 5-MeO-MiPT feels really uncomfortable and alien to me, whereas the 4-AcO is much like a coming home.... a cosmic duvet, full of insightful and perfectly acceptable fluff ;)

I do wonder to what extent that's just my personal response as opposed to it being due the very different natures of the drugs themselves
 
I've got some on the way and I can't wait to try it. Sounds like the most interesting tryptamine for me. I like that alot of people say it's pretty visual, as I haven't had a truly visually exciting trip in a long time.
 
^Well Ive tried a confirmed batch of 5-MeO-MiPT more recently which did produce very interesting visuals and was rather intense. However I got no cosmic revelelations and was not as far into the outreaches of space as I was that one trip. Who knows. Sometimes it seems that trips can vary more widely just between set and setting rather than by drug.
 
Ximot said:
what you describe sounds like it may well have been 4-AcO-MiPT cos it surely doesn't sound anything like 5-MeO-MiPT. 5-MeO-MiPT feels really uncomfortable and alien to me, whereas the 4-AcO is much like a coming home.... a cosmic duvet, full of insightful and perfectly acceptable fluff ;)

I do wonder to what extent that's just my personal response as opposed to it being due the very different natures of the drugs themselves
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I am sorry to hear that. ApproXimotly 11mg (5-MeO-MiPT) produced an energized cocaine like high that last near 4 hours, which happened to be first exposure to Shpongle. That was fun. After the 4 to 5 one began slipping into light trance states in which there were intense hallucinations but no psychedelica.

4-AcO-MiPT is a lovely compound in that it is very gentle and can put your mind at the edge, the edge that 4-HO-DMT at similar doses would have you tumbling over and down and into.

Also, I've mentioned before that there was noticed a very real difference in the metabolization of 4-AcO-MiPT Hcl and the fumarate. Has anyone else noticed a difference in effect between these two salts?
 
A small amount of this substance just fell out of the sky today, and I think I shall now partake. Cheers!






Edit: This is definately my new favorite psychedelic. I hadn't laughed so much at the utter absurdity of it all since......

Well it was a blast. The only thing that bugs me is that I cannot get visuals at all anymore. But that's not the point. I do miss them but I realize they are not what the experince is for really.
 
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I spent a day out in the sunshine yesterday with this beautiful substance and I feel that this is where it really shines- outdoors. Alot of people prefer outdoor tripping, but this is the first chem that I truly think demands nature to really manifest it's full potential; at least for me. And I didn't need a benzo either.
 
4-aco-mipt is probably my favorite chemical. I've only tried it once with about 40 mg and it was so much better and psychedelic than any crappy 2ce, doc etc. stuff. No physical problems and a great feeling afterwards. It really opened up my head but it digged a few problems which I didn't want to deal with and I noticed that controlling it is useless. The visuals, and the mind effects aren't even comparable to anything I've tried (as intense as DXM + LSD). Haven't tried other mushroom chemicals except mushrooms many times but they don't compare at all mostly because they don't have the amazing brain boost power but rather cloud the mind.
 
^^ Mushrooms cloud your mind? Weird... many people find mushrooms to be the most mental and spiritual 4-substituted tryptamine, and perhaps the most of any psychedelic. At least I do.
 
Iprocin was far more 'spiritual' for me than mushrooms. I only tried 4-AcO-MiPT once, at a threshold dose...but it was VERY nice and I felt a lot of potential. Shame I never went back. I'm sure one day though I will try it again.
 
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I am sorry to hear that. ApproXimotly 11mg (5-MeO-MiPT) produced an energized cocaine like high that last near 4 hours, which happened to be first exposure to Shpongle. That was fun. After the 4 to 5 one began slipping into light trance states in which there were intense hallucinations but no psychedelica.

4-AcO-MiPT is a lovely compound in that it is very gentle and can put your mind at the edge, the edge that 4-HO-DMT at similar doses would have you tumbling over and down and into.

Also, I've mentioned before that there was noticed a very real difference in the metabolization of 4-AcO-MiPT Hcl and the fumarate[/B]. Has anyone else noticed a difference in effect between these two salts?
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Hehe, Shpongle is fun. Well, the one fairly enjoyable experience I had on 5-MeO-MIPT was actually consuming media... went to the cinema to see a Star Wars film. As soon as I0m stuck with just me, the compound seems really freaky. A bit like a strong dose of DMT without the amazing visuals, and I felt like I was metallic and green (hard to explain, just didn't feel right).

When you say "difference in the metabolization" - are you referring to physical effects (body load) or mental effects (quality of the experience), or length of (the various stages of) the experience?

Regarding the difference in effect between the two salts, I cannot say as I have not yet sampled the fumarate salt. I had one experience with what I think was the Hcl, and that was a bit different from my experiences with what I was told is the freebase. But my experience with the HCl was my first with the compound and at a low dose, so it's hard to say.

I have had two different salts of 2C-B though. Both the HCl and the HBr. And while I know that the HCl is more potent, I found that compensating for that by adding around 25% of one's usual HCl dose to have the equivalent amount of bioavailable 2C-B from the Hbr still doesn't make for a comparable experience. Somehow the 2C-B HBr I had the chance to try feels different from the 2C-B HCl, even though they're both 2C-B and definitely not any other 2C-x that I have tried.
 
Ximot said:
Hehe, Shpongle is fun. Well, the one fairly enjoyable experience I had on 5-MeO-MIPT was actually consuming media... went to the cinema to see a Star Wars film. As soon as I0m stuck with just me, the compound seems really freaky. A bit like a strong dose of DMT without the amazing visuals, and I felt like I was metallic and green (hard to explain, just didn't feel right).

When you say "difference in the metabolization" - are you referring to physical effects (body load) or mental effects (quality of the experience), or length of (the various stages of) the experience?

Regarding the difference in effect between the two salts, I cannot say as I have not yet sampled the fumarate salt. I had one experience with what I think was the Hcl, and that was a bit different from my experiences with what I was told is the freebase. But my experience with the HCl was my first with the compound and at a low dose, so it's hard to say.

I have had two different salts of 2C-B though. Both the HCl and the HBr. And while I know that the HCl is more potent, I found that compensating for that by adding around 25% of one's usual HCl dose to have the equivalent amount of bioavailable 2C-B from the Hbr still doesn't make for a comparable experience. Somehow the 2C-B HBr I had the chance to try feels different from the 2C-B HCl, even though they're both 2C-B and definitely not any other 2C-x that I have tried.
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Both mental and physical, the Hcl and the fumarate salts seemed to produce noticably different experiences on both fronts. I apologize for not being able to be more clear on the matter, but I think you get the gist of what I'm trying to convey, as your discription of 2C-B HCl and HBr sounds exactly like what I'm trying to say about the other two salts in my question.
 
/\ Yeah I didn't try to attempt to describe the differences with the 2C-B as it doesn't belong in this thread.And because it's hard to pinpoint what exactly it is. But there's something that makes it quite different.
 
Im really egear to try this one as I once had a very powerful trip that was supposedly 20mg of 5-MeO-MiPT, however it was really really out there, so I supsect it must have been something else. I recently tried 24mg 5-MeO-MiPT, and a 50/50 33mg mix of 5-MeO-MiPT and 4-Ho-MiPT which caused me to vomit as well. Neither had me in the place I was on that one trip. I am beggining to think it might have been a one time thing. I got no nausea whatsoever and the come up was fast and the trip was intensely psychedelic. I am beggining to suspect it was 4-AcO-MiPT, and I'm hoping it was because I have access to it right now and am awaiting a day for a trial. I am hoping it was 4-AcO-MiPT because I want that experience again.
 
Ethocin (4-ho-det) + low-dose P. harmala + MDMA (susp.) worked out fine. Was not as strong as expected. Never tried miprocin w/ MAOI, to my recollection. Would not reccomend rue+miprocin, as rue is accompanied by body load (uncomfortable for most), also sometimes amplifies intensity+duration beyond the comfort zone for most.
 
Me, my GF and two close friends all tried this out last night. 19 and 19 respectively for the girls, 21 for my friend, 23 for myself (freebase).

Oh man, what a night. I haven't laughed like that since..EVER. It actually got painful towards the end, but we couldn't stop laughing. This is my 2nd trial with this chem, the first was maybe 1.5 years ago, dosed out into a gelcap so I'm unsure of the dosage (it was the fum, and I think around 30mg).

By far the most 'recreational' psychedelic I've ever used. I was tripping, and hard at that, but I couldn't control my laughter. As I'm typing this, my torso and shit aches a little bit from 3 hours of endless laughter.
 
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