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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

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Blueberry, saw and appreciate the note.

My situation- very little smokable cannabis ATM, just enough to sip lightly, need some bud but unconnected and out of town. I don't beg, no MJ card, usually via dark web, need new PGP, have BC, long story short. I take care of myself, always have, Angels help me..they brought me the edibles, the buds will come too. Bloom where you're planted, take what you're given...

Weather will be crappy so stay local, no driving, try out full dose edible with full dose 3-meO this weekend.

Smoking gives more control and titration, I realize things could be harder to turn off with edible 3-meO combo, just have to lock the door and Do Not Disturb. I've always got an angel on my shoulder, whispering in my ear.

Aware of risks, powerfully aromatic infused krispies, biggest issue is antsy boredom and lack of other fellow co-conspirators, older than most on this thread. I have had full manic experience no problems through many 3-meO excursions.

"I'm crazy but I ain't real dumb" - from David Crosby, psychedelic cowboy ("If I Could only Remember My Name" album).

Think I just made my decision to be a pioneer, I've definitely earned a break from corporate microscopes this week, am lucky in many respects.

All my 3-me0-PCP excursions have been good and controllable without exception, even my early binges.

Let it roll. I am copacetic and attuned with the source. All the best to fellow 3-meO peeps...I'm in.
 
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I think a lot of people seriously underestimate this risk when using/abusing dissociatives. I've never been particularly keen on trying them, simply due to how many people here seem to have problems with compulsive redosing, very long binges, and some very very delusional thought processes. I'm not trying to shit all over this thread, more of just commenting on how clear the risk can be with this (and other similar) chemicals, even just by observing the posts of people in this thread.

I don't doubt that it can be a wonderful experience and a powerful tool for insight, but it seems that extra care need be taken in order to maintain self control and a sane grasp of the world around us.
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Yes I am a Dissociative fiend and my use of these drugs has resulted in multiple (around 10) arrests and about 5 years combined in jails and institutions. I just go nuts stop giving a fuck and think I have special powers/am the final prophet etc.

The past 3 years up until February I was a junkie and my life vastly improved. I started making more money, upgraded my apartment and things like that.

Opiates are not as bad for me as other drugs, they don't effect my perception of. reality. Benzos, uppers, weed, psychedelics all make me go nuts if I'm not careful.

Dissociatives make me go nuts period the high is the best and If I have a bag I'm notdstopping til it's done.

Long story short since I quit the opiates I haven't been as good with other drugs. I've been psychotic multiple times since I kicked on a whim in February, only reason I don't jump back on is it seems a Kratom ban is likely and that's my tool for detoxing.
 
Long time MXE user (and dissociative lover in general) giving 3-meo-pcp a whirl for the first time right now. Starting off at 8mg orally, about 90min in. This is lovely. Very light dose though and I'm wishing I'd gone with 10 or 11mg, but I figured I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Naturally I must ask, is there any true risk of redosing in, say, another few hours (say 5-6 hours after my first 8mg dose)?

Would dosing another 8mg be safest? Or would stepping it up to 10-11mg be ok?

I've been playing with dissociatives for the better part of 15 years and went through mxe like nobody's business so I'm no stranger to mania and insanity, though I've never had any issue in terms of taking things so far that I ended up hospitalized or in any kind of legal trouble, physical trouble, etc so I consider myself about as responsible as an irresponsible dissociative user can be.

Essentially what I'm saying is I'm loving this, but it's really light, threshold almost, and I really want my Saturday to be a bit more interesting. Any advice on redosing? If I was determined to redose (even if you disagree with the idea), after about how many hours of the first dose would it be relatively safe/reasonable and should the dose be increased or kept the same (I imagine there would be some overlap, so a 2nd 8mg dose would be more intense?)

Appreciate any response
 
For your first dose especially I d not recommend redosing. Ride this one out to feel out the envelope, long half life.
Be careful though, just because you didn't go nuts on any amount of MXE doesn't mean you are in any way immune from the wickedness of this drug. The responsible person would say not to dose more than once or twice a week. The responsibly irresponsible person would say it's ok to redose once but don't go over, say 20mg in a single day, depending on your tolerance. Dosing multiple days on a row is when things can get really hairy. Metabolites build up and a lack of having enough time at baseline can make the psyche ungrounded. It may be a fun trip and can convince yourself you got a handle and that everything is great because you are God and since when did God ever make the wrong decision? LOL, im being cheeky but you get the point,, it can be really rewarding to ride the line, but that line is paper-thin, only one ill-timed redose or one misguided thought process away from crossing into cookoo land.
 
vortech said:
For your first dose especially I d not recommend redosing. Ride this one out to feel out the envelope, long half life.
Be careful though, just because you didn't go nuts on any amount of MXE doesn't mean you are in any way immune from the wickedness of this drug. The responsible person would say not to dose more than once or twice a week. The responsibly irresponsible person would say it's ok to redose once but don't go over, say 20mg in a single day, depending on your tolerance. Dosing multiple days on a row is when things can get really hairy. Metabolites build up and a lack of having enough time at baseline can make the psyche ungrounded. It may be a fun trip and can convince yourself you got a handle and that everything is great because you are God and since when did God ever make the wrong decision? LOL, im being cheeky but you get the point,, it can be really rewarding to ride the line, but that line is paper-thin, only one ill-timed redose or one misguided thought process away from crossing into cookoo land.
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Much appreciated for the input. I think, assuming this drug carries on at this level for a bit longer, I may simply stick with just this initial dose today. I know from reading that the line between great and horrific is minuscule with this chem so chancing it isn't something I want to introduce on my first voyage with the stuff.

But so far, holy shit. Great chem here. Totally coherent, social, etc but with just the right halo of dissociation. I'm amazed at how little is needed in comparison to mxe (where I could race through a gram in 24 hours without issue). I can only assume folks are stocking up on this one in lieu of mxe falling off the map with no signs of return.
 
After researching this one for almost a year now, between 5-30mg orally and nasally I have come to a conclusion

I don't like it.::..I was in love with MXE and I guess just chasing that high.::.its not here


I'm through....have fun folks..,.
 
My combo excursion report

My draft for comment...

TL/DR but split up in small chunks for easier digestion by your 3-meO-Peep soaked brains, in your honor, and for your comfort.

The Setup:

Here is a fictional story about a guy doing a full edible / 3-meO-PCP combo excursion and his Trip Report describing the experience. I hope this is on topic for the thread (as opposed to the Swirly Talk Social Tripping thread).

Edible was on empty stomach, then 15mg oral dose of 3-meO at T-4:00 after warm nourishing bowl of chili by TJ.

T+0:00 thoroughly chew 1 Cali cake oral, inhaling the aroma as I chew, with espresso, fig cake, curcumin, aspirin, Ashwagandha, Bioperine.

T+1:00 feeling familiar cannabis first alerts I.e., the body load from head to toes is tangible and time perception is slower, wait till the finish, like a stumble, and you watch yourself go down in slomotion.

T+1:10 Watch Charlotte's Web on HBO while drinking coffee and puttering around my territory. Put on music for a while. Edible effects slowly continue to build in the background of my mind.

T+4:00 take oral 15mg 3-meO-PCP. Down the hatch. I always get happy when my brain registers its familiar taste.

T+5:00 time inching along, at rest but circulating. No real fireworks yet. Just keep calm and carry on. Waiting for the universe to deliver me a plan.

T+5:30 go out in public, get stuff out of car, and clean up the debris inside, confident, efficient, clear thinking, deep tingle of energy building, go right back inside but think to myself "I want to go for a walk."

T+6:00 after preparations I go out, talking to the cute curvy age appropriate proprietor, "I'm taking another walking expedition..." She smiles, her eyes always sparkling whenever I see her, I'm feeling strong positive energy, but she is working, I stay in my role as business guest, ahh well..

Then I go outside and power walk 4.5 miles on a "rail trail", moving along briskly fast and carry my body with solid precision so that observers see only a fit-fanatic granola boomer nature boy.

Complete trek in 80 minutes, bicycles meandering by with helmeted sports aficionados. Perfect cool cloudy but work up body heat as I go, taking pics and narrated video clips of the journey, digging the day.

I almost forget all the substances fueling me, until I get back and take a cool refreshing shower with tea tree oil infused toiletries from head to toe, ahhh.

T+8:00 after recharge I want to notch up the 3-meO excursion with full puff of NYCD and 6 oz of 7.3abv ale. Time is really inching along, I do something, it takes forever to happen.

Ready to make an walk outside the capsule now! (Into the astral realms via meditation)

Set up cam on tripod, ultraconvenient hands free control. Totally relaxed from power walk and tinnitus building like Tibetan monk double tone engine inside me. Whee!!

At T+8:15 hours into the experience, I execute the escape from ego gravity.

by T+8:22 I begin to lose precision of fingertips. Tinnitus is raging and blends with interstate highway passings. And now deeper bliss begins to emerge into my vision.

T+8:29 uhoh my babysitter is texting me from 1000s of miles away..she doesn't know about all of my mischief.... I'm coming back down into orbit and deal with her.

(The beauty of this, 3-meO-Peeps, is that I can control the effects up, down, as desired. Even while all these chemicals are circulating maniacally inside.)

I am going to pretend I have to leave to do my meditation, true not????

T+8:45 - not yet got rid of her texting but have decided to have more intoxicants re-up of T-4:15...

T+8:55 she stopped texting then I do full refill at T+5:02.

Yes!! Time for Music..."la grande ligne" or "the Eternal Rhyme"....look it up, 3-meO-Peeps.

I am connected with the universal thoughts that created all that you see. It was all conceived by Thought, it all ties together, this universe, on every level. This Law keeps this show, this Dream, this world, the whole ball of wax, from beginning to end, keeps it all tied and connected together.

A song that relates to the above which you would enjoy is "Marriage of Heaven and Hell" by Todd Rundgren, from Utopia 1985 album Point of View (POV). I consider this album a classic. Link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pXWHaEmcXjg


T+9:10 "Hummingbird" by Seals and Crofts
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=hummingbird+seals+and+crofts&sm=1

Don't say I don't make myself easy to understand on your behalf...this stuff allows focus despite the raging THC and alcohol potentiators.

I can assure you that 3-meO-PCP is helping my mind keep me docile and under control at this moment despite the cumulative effects of today's Extra Soecial Combo-potentiated Excursion.

(I've had excursions in the past where this combo would have had me in a manic state, or be unable to speak, speechlessly. But now it can be controlled up, down, etc, ad infinitum.)

T+9:22 love you all but must stop writing, and recharge my unit...

T+9:49 never did recharging, answering babysitter texts continuing.

T+10:00 Finally got rid of her. She tries but cannot keep up with me. Now I will recharge my Infinitely Aware (but humble and drained) unit. Whew!

So at T +10 hours I finished my meditation and put on my machine and it registered a very high score in mid 90s. I nailed the sucker!

T plus 1010 hrs. I took all my usual nutrients - vitamins, supplements etc. which includes Lecithin, ALCAR, CoQ10, garlic, magnesium Chelate, cod liver soft gel, and half of a multivitamin. I think that's everything I took...

and I had that in the maple water, which is pure maple water, one ingredient from the tree, which I bought on my expense account.

Then I had my remaining smoked Cajun Salmon on the kashi 7grain see salt chips, of which I had four.

and then I had dinner that was a mix of kale, garbanzo, peanuts, and couscous, along with some red pepper, fresh onion, fresh tomato and olive oil...yummy!

I heated up and ate. It was perfect. I take care good care of myself on these excursions, just want you to know that's the recommended way to utilize this medicine.

At T+11:40 I eat this fine meal. Still feeling the excursion but I have detached myself as I must report to work in 35 hours from now. In another lifetime, i might have redosed 30mg of 3-meO along with another full edible. But "less is more"...

11:50 on phone with distant babysitter, talk for 15 minutes, she says Good Night, I say Sweet Dreams. Then I hang up and plot my next forbidden mischief.

T+13:13 eat hagdzen dass butter pecan ice cream with fresh blueberries. Coating stomach for final denouement of this Special cannabis and 3-meO-PCP excursion. Getting tired and will move on to the winding down phase.

T+13:33 poured 6 oz of 7.3abv ale, sips and sips of it, tastes old and boring. Start thinking about puff of NYCD, but wait to see what happens first after the ale is poured into the gullet.

I would not drive, with all this evidence inside me, however I would have no problem to manage safely on lightly traveled country roads, such as in my immediate proximity.

Cleaning up the Trip Report for finalization.

T+13:51 pour a repeat dose of ale. My gums feeling a sensation which is nice.

Sip ale and assemble pills for restful slumber... melatonin, magnesium biglyconate chelate, and 25mg doxylamine succinate aka Unisom. Set them on table next to ale.

T+13:58 hear funny noises, find out these short faint audio tones are coming out of the air handler, which has been off for the last hour.

Having trouble with focus and spelling. About time to wrap things up.

T+14:03 finish 2nd ale without taking pills.

Return to assemble TR draft for BL post.

T+14:15. Take aforementioned sleep aids with third and final glass of ale.

Goodbye! Hope you all enjoyed my story. It's "the last generation of a world gone wild - the true story." LOL

Maybe you will see it somewhere again, when incorporated into a future compilation of my excursions and commentary.

The moral of this story is that 3-meO-PCP is a powerful and effective therapeutic aid and intoxicant that can help you reach your goals when part of a complete plan that includes nutrition, music, MJ, meditation, and exercise. Your mileage may vary.

I am the pioneer. You too can benefit like described in this tale, this excursionary performance art demo.

Akbar
 
I had a strange experience with 3-MeO-PCP the other day. I was on approx 20mg I think. It's hard to be accurate since I was doing 5-10 mg bumps throughout the day when it seemed like a replenish was in order. The dosing was intranasally.

I felt the latest bump coming on, and put on my Bach's Organ Works cd, closed my eyes and tried to meditate. I slipped into some kind of a weird trance where it felt like everything around me expanded into an almost infinite space, and there was nothing in that space except the music, and I was a part of the music. Then the music also became light, and I was just this golden light that was also music flowing through this infinite auditorium. There was nothing else and I couldn't really even understand that anything was out of the ordinary while it was going on. It only lasted for like 30 minutes or so and I came to myself afterwards. During none of this were there any CEVs or visuals of any kind. It was all on a purely mental level.

It was one of the most beautiful experiences I've ever had, albeit also pretty confusing since people keep saying there's no hole to the substance.

I just wanted to share that because it was a really strange and wonderful experience and wondered if anyone else has had something similar on 3-MeO-PCP.
 
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Interesting experience, Viv. I always use Bach, Zelenka, Paart and Stockhausen as soundtrack for my psychedelic explorations, since they have the spiritual deepness that provide similar experiences to your report's... Bach being at the top of them all, he is out of this world. But I never suspected that a dissociative like 3-meo-pcp could drive you so far away. It seems to have its own singularities, too... I hope I can try it some day.
 
Mondeva said:
Interesting experience, Viv. I always use Bach, Zelenka, Paart and Stockhausen as soundtrack for my psychedelic explorations, since they have the spiritual deepness that provide similar experiences to your report's... Bach being at the top of them all, he is out of this world. But I never suspected that a dissociative like 3-meo-pcp could drive you so far away. It seems to have its own singularities, too... I hope I can try it some day.
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I was really surprised too since as far as I can tell the dosing wasn't insanely large either. I prefer classical music for dissociative trips because it just flows together so beautifully. Percussive things seem to disrupt the equilibrium more than with regular psychedelics.
 
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Perhaps those of us that can't hole have a large general/preexisting dissociative tolerance. I don't have a stimulant tolerance but I have a huge dissociative tolerance, so at doses that would produce a hole for me perhaps the relative strength of the stimulant effects prevents a hole. The dissociative effect::stimulant effect ratio is skewed more favorably for a hole in those without a dissociative tolerance.
 
pharmakos said:
Perhaps those of us that can't hole have a large general/preexisting dissociative tolerance. I don't have a stimulant tolerance but I have a huge dissociative tolerance, so at doses that would produce a hole for me perhaps the relative strength of the stimulant effects prevents a hole. The dissociative effect::stimulant effect ratio is skewed more favorably for a hole in those without a dissociative tolerance.
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This is interesting, and quite plausible I guess. I've tried DXM and NOS years before but neither of them did anything at all that I could tell, so 3-MeO-PCP is pretty much the first proper dissociative experience I've had, so I had no tolerance towards them going into it.

edit: Though I have no stimulant tolerance either just to bundle that bit of information in.
 
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3-MeO-PCP...oh, how I've missed you!

A lifetime supply of 3meo showed up on my doorstep today. My last day of finals is tomorrow, so I've been abstaining...and believe me, it's not easy, hahah. After I'm done with my finals tomorrow, you better believe I'm gonna go home, dose up some 3-MeO, and play Dark Souls 3 :D

My buddy also tested this, I'm talking with him right now on facebook and he's having a great time. Stuff is legit...I can't wait!
 
Pre-existing dissociative tolerance definitely comes into play for me. MXE got me to a very high tolerance 4 years ago. Never fully recovered. I got my hole at 30 mg dose 3-MeO once then never again, and tried as high as 40 mg and 50 mg 2-fluoroket but didn't get there.

I suspect strongly with a little weed or some other "hole nucleation agent" you know, to incite the vibrations, I could get there again with a lower dosage. 3-MeO-PCP is so clean on it own that it's often featureless. You feel the potential coursing through your body but nothing happens if that makes sense.
 
the only times i've ever holed with 3-MeO-PCP involved were in combination with other dissociative. combining with DXM or MXE allowed me to helped me reach the hole much easier, and the DXM in particular made the holes very visual.
 
I once combined a small amount of MXE with 8 mgs of 3-MeO-PCP and I was surprised by the synergy. It's like the PCP acted as a lauching pad for MXE. I guess it would be really easy to reach a dissociative hole pre-loading with methoxy phencyclidine.
 
Yeah the 3-MeO-PCP and MXE combination is intense, very strongly dissociating. I've done it twice, the first time was at a concert, I took like 7mg of 3-MeO-PCP and then a couple of hours in, a total of maybe 35-40mg of MXE (I brought 50mg and used over 2/3 of it by eye in 2 doses), and I was blasted off the earth, the music didn't even register as music anymore, I had to just stand there for an hour unmoving and staring, the stage looked like some sort of jewel-encrusted palace. There was no real understanding of what was going on, it was just happening. 35-40mg of MXE by itself would have been dissociating and a bit crazy, but absolutely nothing like this.
 
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