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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

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Haha that sounds like something I would never attempt in public, Xorkoth. 40 mg of MXE are by itself a little bit incapacitating for me :P
 
Indeed, that sounds just fucking awesome. 3-MeO-PCP as the base drug, combined with bumps of MXE/Ketamine/2-Fl-Ketamine along the night. I already tried the 3-MeO-PCP + o-PCE oral combo and was just awesome, more potent and crazy than any of them on its own. Indeed, I feel 3-MeO-PCP is going to be my base drug for all kind of combos and parties, like it used to be amphetamine on the past :)
 
Is there any consensus on the safety of this one?

I tried about 8mg last week (may 7) followed by 11mg the day after. The next day (may 9) I woke up feeling oddly anxious and had weird muscle spasming that really hasn't subsided (though has diminished a bit) as well as occasional stuttering while speaking (ironically, usually with words beginning with the letter M). I haven't touched the stuff after the 11mg dose (I only did 2 doses total) but wonder if others have experienced things like this? I'm no stranger to dissociatives and full blown mania, have gone through boatloads of mxe and know well about magnesium/electrolyte depletion/replenishment, hydration, etc... so the fact muscle spasms seem to continue on... could simply be unease and/or muscle tension from anxiety I'm having over this stuff or could be from an impure batch? I got my 3-meo from a well reputed vendor with great reviews on reddit for this product around the time I purchased it (late last year) so who knows.

It also seems to have really subconsciously affected my ability to urinate. I could go through a gram a night of mxe and the next day I had no trouble urinating, but ever since the 3-meo-pcp I just stand there and sometimes it takes 15-30 seconds of just calming and zenning myself out to piss. Could just be weirdness in my own head, but it didn't start until after using 3-meo-pcp. Both doses were taken via oral ROA.

Either way, this stuff is clearly a monster chemical. I loved my 2 experiences with it, but I'm suspecting that for me the proper dosage might be closer to 3-5mg once every week or 2 just for maintenance. In many ways I still feel the positive mental effects of 3-meo-pcp still sticking with me. Not sure the halflife of this stuff but 3-meo-pcp is an absolute beast of a chemical that should be treated with the utmost respect. To read of people binging on this stuff.. I just can't imagine what that does to the brain in the long term.
 
I can relate to your "needing to zen" to be able to piss easily. I myself since my heavy ketamine binges back on the day, feel hard to pee without taking a lot of concentration, and somedays I need a sound stimulus for beeing able to begin (some water running on the sink usually). I always was weird with me peeing thought, before my disso abuse I already had some troubles, needing to be alone on a closed bathroom (preferably one I own) and without noises arround to be able to pee
 
MSK said:
I can relate to your "needing to zen" to be able to piss easily. I myself since my heavy ketamine binges back on the day, feel hard to pee without taking a lot of concentration, and somedays I need a sound stimulus for beeing able to begin (some water running on the sink usually). I always was weird with me peeing thought, before my disso abuse I already had some troubles, needing to be alone on a closed bathroom (preferably one I own) and without noises arround to be able to pee
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Yes, mostly the same here. Never did good in public bathrooms either unless I could get a stall to myself. Dissociatives clearly didn't help, but I suppose that's the price some of us pay for our adventures. That said, 3-meo-pcp really potentiated that problem in a way that mxe or any other dissociative never did. Part of me wonders if it's more mental than physical though (anxiety). The muscle spasming has mostly gone away today and I'm keeping myself occupied with friends and distractions so anxiety isn't too bad.. hoping this little bout of paranoia is on the wane for good. Must admit though, I'm not sure I'll be using this one again and if I do it'll likely be at threshold levels and no more than twice a month. MXE felt very friendly and even after (ab)using it to great extent I could return to reality without issue. The crazy thing about the 3-meo-pcp is, aside from anxiety, I also still feel the benefits of this one. I'm eating very healthy, exercising, just doing all the 'right things'. Could just be placebo, could be the afterlife of the drug. Either way, despite my hesitations about this one due to the anxiety that followed, I'm still very much curious and a bit mesmerized with this one. It seems like it could have amazing anti-depressant potential in minuscule doses (2-3mg).
 
Astounding recollection of the effects 3-meo-pcp produces!

The wide array of energies given off do blend well with Kundalini excercises. A shortcut one might say, into higher chakras.

It really feels like a waterfall of emerging energy, contained only by the focus and zen state of ones own mind!
 
Interesting that you feel 3-meo-pcp was worse than others, seed. I feel like since I stopped using MXE and have been using 3-meo instead, I have less urinary problems. I'm probably still doing damage and am going to take a break to lower tolerance and detox, but it feels like one of the cleanest things I have ever touched, less side effects than anything else I've ever abused, not that I would recommend abuse. I don't know if I could handle this chem without benzos or alcohol to moderate the insanity that creeps in though.

Maybe it's batch variation/impurities causing the negative urinary effects, the first batch I got was different and I didn't get anything out of it. I always felt like some MXE gave me worse bladder problems than others. Could just be different bodies response though, I think some people just react worse to disso's than others.

Yeah, the waterfall of zen energy is amazing. Stellarrrrr.
 
"I don't know if I could handle this chem without benzos or alcohol to moderate the insanity that creeps in though."

Interesting. I've only ever found insanity in combinations, particularly alcohol.
 
I agree with blueberry too, 3-meo-pcp is pretty kind on my mind and body, even after 2 week benders.
 
To me, the best way to take this is in very small doses separated by hours, throughout the day. Lately I have tried this a few times... I take 2mg at a time, in the nose (as I like the effects better that way), separated by 2-3 hours each. I do 4 or 5 doses this way, and each one bumps up the effects a bit, and I become increasingly immersed in a state of inspired, focused fearlessness. It feels like everything is firing at full cylinders, and my energy levels are sky-high. It seems to be an energy born from inspiration, and I want to focus it into creating, generally music. I have absolutely zero fear of conflict, or fear of anything really, and speaking eloquently and precisely is easy. There's never any amount of dissociation I can feel beyond a slight quiver early on, in fact I don't even feel high. The dose is too low for any full-blown mania to occur but I would definitely describe the state as hypomanic, lots of energy and excitement, but without really inhibiting my functioning at all. Sort of a super-sober feeling.

Great shit, I could see this being prescribed as an antidepressant or something, potential abuse issues notwithstanding.
 
I tried a dIfferent ROA that I don't see mentioned much with this substance.
IVing this is absolutely blissful.
There's no rush like with K or MXE, It takes a minute or two to fully develop. And it's not any more dissociating than eating or snorting it, though after several redoses I watched my wife go in to a hole, which she described as being very nice.

I started with a 7mg shot. After about a minute I felt like I was floating on a marshmallow cloud. The body high is very relaxing, quite the opposite of other ROA's. The head trip is similar to snorting or eating it but also more mellow and more euphoric.
The peak effects last about an hour but there is still a residual high after that so taking more shots does get you more dissociated as the doses stack up. I did 4 shots ranging from 7-10mg. The high never got out of control and honestly I felt like doing more but used my better judgement.
My wife takes bigger doses of this, her shots were 10-15mg and after 4 or 5 shots she went in to a hole. She was pretty much immobile for an hour and would at times giggle or try to tell me what she was experiencing but what she said didn't make much sense at the time. I felt like I knew what she was experiencing just because I've had plenty of hole experiences on other dissciatives.

I'm not recommending others try this but my experience with it was very rewarding and I plan to do it again when I don't use it socially but instead looking for a relaxing experience at home listening to music.
 
Xorkoth said:
To me, the best way to take this is in very small doses separated by hours, throughout the day. Lately I have tried this a few times... I take 2mg at a time, in the nose (as I like the effects better that way), separated by 2-3 hours each. I do 4 or 5 doses this way, and each one bumps up the effects a bit, and I become increasingly immersed in a state of inspired, focused fearlessness. It feels like everything is firing at full cylinders, and my energy levels are sky-high. It seems to be an energy born from inspiration, and I want to focus it into creating, generally music. I have absolutely zero fear of conflict, or fear of anything really, and speaking eloquently and precisely is easy. There's never any amount of dissociation I can feel beyond a slight quiver early on, in fact I don't even feel high. The dose is too low for any full-blown mania to occur but I would definitely describe the state as hypomanic, lots of energy and excitement, but without really inhibiting my functioning at all. Sort of a super-sober feeling.

Great shit, I could see this being prescribed as an antidepressant or something, potential abuse issues notwithstanding.
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I've been doing this myself, tiny little bumps and you feel fucking great.
 
I wonder if someone could create a time-release patch... I could discreetly benefit from this wonder-drug without getting actually fucked-up! I usually am only able to take a single large dose, but I could imagine just being "in the zone" all day with that method.
 
That's the way I prefer to do it as well. Dose 3-5mgs three to four times a day. I only take a larger sum dose every once in awhile. That was how I primarily used it in the beginning but find staggering far superior. I've never IV'd it but have IM'd it many times which is very nice but really only bother once in awhile when I'm looking for a quicker onset or when I'm about to IM another dissociative or psychedelic. Stick to oral for the most part.
 
I went through almost a gram of 3 meo pcp dosing no more than 10mg at a time, mostly 5mg at a time.

Am on 5mg now.

Seems to be a trend.
 
Maybe unsurprisingly but I would recommend against using 3-MeO-PCP supplementally / medicinally. While I was doing that, I seemed more functional and even-mooded than normal, and the PAWS from kicking opiates went away, but I think that in the end I realized I was just detached (but subtly / hard to notice while in it) and a bit 'suspended'. My relationship was ruined (not because of this, she said she didn't mind), perhaps that was inevitable anyway, but the point being that I think 3-MeO-PCP helped much less with things than I initially thought.

Also importantly I felt dumbed down for quite a while after, and mentally atrophied. In your body, things that are not used much such as muscles, dwindle away over time. It really felt like something like that happened with 3-MeO.

I don't think I really had problems with 'staying in reality', or when stopping dissociatives altogether, but definitely don't do what I did, it's not worth it and turns out more pointless than it may at first appear.

Whether even lower doses than I did would be actually comparable to ketamine AD therapy, I do not know.
 
Yeah I would think using like that, everyday, is a ticket to mania or psychosis - or a bad rebound depression / anhedonia afterwards.

After abusing this for a while I got severe mood swings, cry outbursts etc. I would say that nothing is good for everyday use, even though some people here are gonna say that dissociatives help them medicinally. That's not the case for me as I don't have any mental disorders - I just use them to get high.

I remember the amazing afterglows when I started using methoxetamine back in the days tho.
 
Well I'm doing 30-50mg a day since a week, and once you're used to it to me it feels less toxic, with less comedown. I can easily sleep now at +3h on the experience and it's even sedating. The day after I feel pretty baseline.
 
Yeah the thing is, you're not even near the baseline. It takes days to come down after that kind of use.
 
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