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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

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Well the migraine was definately linked to the ringing in my ears getting extreme.....57 hours now since the initial dose and my ears are still ringing....I'm sure due to the very long half life of this chem

It was my mistake to redose....that's what through me over the edge

Problem was I ran out of booze and just couldn't get behind the wheel of a car to get more being +6 hours into the first 25mg dose....I was coming down, but when I looked into the mirror I just knew it was a terrible idea.....so the only thing I could think of to make it through the night was redose

This shit is not like MXE...I found out the hard way you just don't redose......unless you want your tennitus to spiral out of control.....I hope it goes away to a normal level soon or I may end up with a gun to my head to stop the ringing
 
dude, it sounds really like a really painful experience.

Don't knock 3 meo just off that though. I really like it best in 5-10mg doses, and I have no problem with 50-100mg plugged mxe doses. Maybe just take less?
 
Yeah....I enjoyed 10mg much more....did that a few weeks ago X2 about 8 hours apart and had a lovely time.....but I like to push my dissos

I'm sure once the tinnitus gets back to a normal level I'll prolly go at it again at those types of doses

For sure won't go over 15 ever again.....I can still taste it, so I know it's still lingering in my system 2 1/2 days later

That and the maddening ringing
 
I recently did 6 mg of this, and three hours into it threw 20 mg MXE on top. Very strong but pleasant dissociation, feelings of melting and much confusion, but not in an uncomfortable way. Maybe it's a better idea to combine this with low dosages of other dissos than try to push it on it's own.

But still ! Proceed with caution. Some of the new dissos going around are quite strong. I read somewhere else a very bad experience from someone mixing this one with 2'-Oxo-PCE, though the dosages were quite high, but the point stands anyway. Dose low when combining, there was definitely synergy between 3-Meo-PCP and MXE, not just and additive effect.
 
yup, been trying to reiterate it for three threads now lol, but redoses are generally a bad idea on this stuff. always ends up being way too many unwanted mental and physical side effects. hope you're feeling better when you wake up today phroggy.

the only time redosing seems to work is when stacking multiple small (~5-10mg) doses throughout the day, up to a max of maybe 25-30mg. even that should only be done once you get a solid feel for what this stuff does to you at various sized single doses, tho.
 
I think some people are also more sensitive than others to tinnitus from dissociatives in general. A friend of mine did a very moderate dose of MXM and wound up with bad tinnitus that lasted to some extent for nearly one year. Drove him totally crazy, gave him lots of sleep issues, etc. Hope yours doesn't last that long.
 
Is tinnitus a common side-effect of dissociatives?
I have heard of people suffering from it as a side effect of amphetamine use, but wasn't aware dissociatives could also cause it.
This stuff has some strange effects on hearing, i find.
Loud music can seem sort of compressed or muted, whereas sometimes my hearing feels more sensitive to some quiet sounds.
 
It is a common side-effect. When I first started using MXE I would get a form of tinnitus that would last (on and off) for a few days after use. I actually liked it (it would bring me back to MXE space). I no longer get the tinnitus effect. I assume it's more common for people who are new to dissociatives.
 
Interesting, i never experienced it with MXE. Something i would like to avoid - all the more reason to tread very carefully with these things.
 
MXE made me wonder if i was actually slowly becoming deaf, the impression of hearing loss was very realistic. Later on a hearing test reassured me that nothing had changed.

Never got anything of the sort with 3-MeO, if i put aside every time it has led me too close to the speakers at every concert i took it=D
 
Just stopped by to give an update on my 3-meO-PCP research project.

For all of you MXE critters and other assorted aficionados of this thread, I have been exclusively on the 3-meO path for two years and have posted here and elsewhere for the benefit of anyone who will listen.

As we speak I'm about 9 hours into my current excursion of 12mg oral dose. For the most part my frequency has adjusted to an 8 day dosage interval. And nothing over 15mg.

My usage is now for productive, empathetic, and therapeutic purposes. There is euphoria but only as a side effect.

In past excursions I went over 65mg within 8 hrs (1 redose).
That was 21 months ago. My highest frequency was every other day. That was in the early days before I learned how to dance with this Delight.

It is consistent but never boring. Crazy but always understood. The dissociative properties can allow an open connection to others that is like a healing energy. Typically, I stay alone until just sliding off the peak at about 4 to 5 hours in. The updraft phase is a productive time that can be steered to ecstatic bliss or incredible focus wherever your attention is focused.

The second phase is with others, serving, listening, appreciating them by sheer osmosis.

Music, cooking, coordination...the creativity is amazing.

All those who are experimenting with this substance should treat it with respect and it will be rewarding to your life and wellbeing. Talking about 125mg doses is like trying to put a skyscraper between your ears. Don't go there, don't even get close unless you have given up on living and want a way off the top of the tree you climbed up.

This is LSD only newer and more different. Phase 2 of Chemical Psychological Therapy, IMHO.
 
I did MXE for over a year in various doses and it never escalated my tinnitus

Today is actually worse than yesterday....I'm ringing like mad

But I know the half lie of this stuff is really long....I imagine it could take over a week for it to completely be out of my system

Not worth it for me....I'm done with this drug...for good.....maybe done with dissos altogether, cause flair ups in tinnitus are maddening....it's never been this bad.....
 
I've had tinnitus since 1998, it's just one of those things you get used to and it kinda just is the norm....

This sucks pretty badly....I normally don't even realize it's there,...but it's at a maddening level right now

But like I said I'm sure the drug itself is still in my system because if the long half life......plus I can still "taste it".....anyone familiar with dissos knows what I'm talking about
 
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loved your report Akbar.

I've been doing some trials with some 3-meo-pcp and MXP myself last month or so. Have had 4 experiences with the 3-meo-pcp and 3 with the MXP so far. Ideally I'd be taking more time between doses given all the warnings I've heard, but I've been starting low and working up. So roughly 3-4 days between trials starting with 5 mg 3-meo-pcp and 50mg MXP and have gone as high as 33 mg 3-meo-pcp and 200 mg MXP (that was today). Gonna stop the dosage ramp-up and try to space these out more. I think a week is the minimum I need between doses, probably more. Want it to stay clear like it is now. 3-meo-pcp is the winner, but the MXP kind of takes off where the other left off, so I'm not so clear about what unique to the drug. I definitely feel with 3-meo-pcp I can go into the experience more — with the MXP there is less experiential inter-penetration; the glow is offset so you don't feel it like you're in it. I'm just making things up to try and express myself, these things'll take some practice to put into words.

I feel it working on my consciousness, doing what, not sure, but it feels benign for now. Been carrying it around with me like an "other" this whole time; even on the days I haven't used it, it is still in my system affecting me somewhat. I have mixed feelings about this, but it's not unpleasant, just a more fluffy and non-linear way of being. Probably time to let it get out of my system some and see if there is anything lasting to these changes I've been feeling so I don't delude myself too much. I love the insights I get about myself. I see my flaws pretty magnified — like how I have this habit of confusing myself unnecessarily with things that don't matter. The people around me get confused too. Its really contagious so there's an extra responsibility to keep the vibe clean and relatable otherwise communication breakdown.

The experiences are amazing and otherworldly. Especially when you breakthrough to what I'll call the "vibronic" headspace. Think people who've tried this will know what I'm talking about with that description. Words become concepts that float slowly through some viscous fluid in a state of animated suspension. You can sit there and observe it like some curiosity but mostly theres no need for that. Experience is more direct. Not all that self-referential relating to oneself. Awareness takes textures like wood, polystyrene foams, etc, etc. I swear I can see my neurons at different points, like thin tissue cross-sections. I use coconut-based products on my skin, and those have worked their way into these experiences as well. It's hard to explain, like this feminine ovular, cellular anatomy thing — don't know enough about coconut biology to say really, but whatever, I get to experience the coconut in my skin products at the cellular level is my point.

I've been following this thread and it has helped me stay more disciplined learning from you all. I've been enjoying the flow of it all. Been exercising 5 days a week and always when I dose; it's really helping me not drift too far away into floaty land. Learning to pay more attention to my mind in action as it processes different things. You get a kind of space to see things happen, like they're slowed down for you. Have to remind myself to care more and take joy in being an observer of my own processes and those of others. More humility too. There so much autopilot to contend with and some days the contrast between my flaws and the in-tune version of me is really obnoxious cause I can see it so clearly.
 
Do you think going out dancing in a club is possible on 3-meo-pcp?
I really like the mania dissociatives give me, however I get it only from time to time and can't really control if it happens or not.
If I remember correctly, someone wrote 3-meo-pcp has a rather large tendency to induce mania, so is it suited for this purpose?
 
Absolutely, if you keep the dose in the low to middle range. Actually, 3-MeO-PCP is the very best drug for dancing to me, and the physical exertion really brings out the mania aspect of it. In fact I think tomorrow night I'm going to a show on 3-MeO-PCP.
 
Well shiet if I'm going to see a techno (actual genre, not buzzword) producer/DJ god tomorrow night at one of my favorite clubs for like 6 hours, what dose would y'all recommend? 10, 12, 15mg?
 
How familiar are you with it?
For me personally, i would say all those doses would be ok, but with the higher end doses, the initial dissociative effect might hit you pretty hard - wheras the afterglow will almost certainly shine.
If you're unsure, i'd say keep the dose fairly low.
But IME ~15mg would be fine.
 
I'm not too experienced with the chemical to be honest. I have a great relationship with MXE and DXM but with 3-meo-pcp, not so much. I've done it probably less than 15-20 times and never above I wanna say 12mg?
 
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