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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity
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Help?!?!
Bluelighter
Ha, it can be comical to talk with certain people about that sort of stuff. When I get that question, I simply reply, "Well I've done both many times...!". PCP's more feared because it's more readily available on the streets..,but with straight pure PCP, IMO there's less to fear because after doing enough, you quite literally can't move, whereas 3-MeO-PCP, not only moving but doing things in the outrageous manic, mindset your in, seems like a grand idea. Not until you come down though do you realize how disillusioned you were..
Crashing
Bluelighter
Ha, it can be comical to talk with certain people about that sort of stuff. When I get that question, I simply reply, "Well I've done both many times...!". PCP's more feared because it's more readily available on the streets..,but with straight pure PCP, IMO there's less to fear because after doing enough, you quite literally can't move, whereas 3-MeO-PCP, not only moving but doing things in the outrageous manic, mindset your in, seems like a grand idea. Not until you come down though do you realize how disillusioned you were..
What happened to you on 3-meo-pcp? The comedown is definitely rocky after pushing it to its extremes! I can barely see a damned thing!
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Bluelighter
What do you mean? I was just pointing out that one..."holes", you, so you can't move, so you just stew in the mad mania, while on the other, your not only stimulated, manic, etc, but moving around and doing things in such a state seems like a great idea.
Crashing
Bluelighter
I absolutely see what you're saying now.
++++ And fully functional, flanging yet still coordinated... this stuff seems to somehow defy truth, it is SAVAGE.
Having a bag of 3-meo-pcp is like holding the bane of existence. Definitely wanna keep this one in hard to reach areas.
Holy cow.
Side note - Vaping a lot of nicotine seems to help regain equilibrium.
Edit - vaped too munch nicotine, flanging is back except instead of arcing it's more of an up and down.
++++ And fully functional, flanging yet still coordinated... this stuff seems to somehow defy truth, it is SAVAGE.
Having a bag of 3-meo-pcp is like holding the bane of existence. Definitely wanna keep this one in hard to reach areas.
Holy cow.
Side note - Vaping a lot of nicotine seems to help regain equilibrium.
Edit - vaped too munch nicotine, flanging is back except instead of arcing it's more of an up and down.
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treezy z
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Ya 3-meo-pcp had me blabbing out huge plans to start businesses become rich etc unrealistically everyone who saw me on it knew I was straight fucked up to the point of insanity, usually on dissociatives I don't run around acting wild.
That said after my binge on this I'm doing quite well may have snapped me out of a depression.
That said after my binge on this I'm doing quite well may have snapped me out of a depression.
Peacephrog1972
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This one certainly stays in your system a long time
I can smell it on my fingers 7 days after doing 50mg over a 36 hour time span
I can smell it on my fingers 7 days after doing 50mg over a 36 hour time span
Help?!?!
Bluelighter
3-MeO-PCP is long lasting, fat soluble, etc, and will stay in your system a very long time...
Xorkoth
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Yeah nicotine has an interesting interaction with dissociatives...
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Bluelighter
Nicotine has interactions with many chemicals, potentiating or depotenting them...
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Bluelighter
I'm not sure how safe it actually is to be vaping heavily when on a large dose of the meo, since it does have such a strong reaction. Usually a couple nice vapor clouds will ground me though.
Headed to work. I always judge the presence of a disso in my body based on the level of tinnitus i'm experiencing. As the drug slowly wears off, so does the tinnitus. It's pretty apparent right now, and although i've gotten the best sleep i've had in a while probably due to the cessation of cannabinoids and kratom on Wednesday, it's surely largely attributed to the remaining elevated levels of 3-meo-pcp jangling around my inner cortex.
I'll leave the bag home today, but I know i'll be sniffing around for it when I arrive home. Out of all my self-medication endeavors, I can objectively say dissociative use, be it micro dosing, single dosing, and even binging, has always seemed to propel my life forward in almost every way. Be it the temporary and lingering decreased desire for more socio-financially detrimental substances like opiates, cannabinoids, and stimulants, or it's acute and chronic anti-depressive effects that transcend the properties of every other chemical at once without presenting a sharp rebound upon cessation.
I've been a junkie, a tweaker, an acid head, a pot head, an alcoholic, and I'm still all of those things, waxing and waning in and out of dependency. Somehow, with much effort and through vigorous trial and error, my overall quality of life seems to be slowly improving as I age. Doctors medicines like SSRIs have been the least productive out of anything. All drugs have their medicinal value to me up until the point of the crash and burn.
Dissociatives, however illusory and deceitful in nature, have always had measurable positive effects on the physical realms that surround my everyday existence... even if it is a product of misguided wisdom. I will always appreciate their long and draw out taper back into the regular sense of self.
I much prefer that to a cliff's edge on any given springtime.
Headed to work. I always judge the presence of a disso in my body based on the level of tinnitus i'm experiencing. As the drug slowly wears off, so does the tinnitus. It's pretty apparent right now, and although i've gotten the best sleep i've had in a while probably due to the cessation of cannabinoids and kratom on Wednesday, it's surely largely attributed to the remaining elevated levels of 3-meo-pcp jangling around my inner cortex.
I'll leave the bag home today, but I know i'll be sniffing around for it when I arrive home. Out of all my self-medication endeavors, I can objectively say dissociative use, be it micro dosing, single dosing, and even binging, has always seemed to propel my life forward in almost every way. Be it the temporary and lingering decreased desire for more socio-financially detrimental substances like opiates, cannabinoids, and stimulants, or it's acute and chronic anti-depressive effects that transcend the properties of every other chemical at once without presenting a sharp rebound upon cessation.
I've been a junkie, a tweaker, an acid head, a pot head, an alcoholic, and I'm still all of those things, waxing and waning in and out of dependency. Somehow, with much effort and through vigorous trial and error, my overall quality of life seems to be slowly improving as I age. Doctors medicines like SSRIs have been the least productive out of anything. All drugs have their medicinal value to me up until the point of the crash and burn.
Dissociatives, however illusory and deceitful in nature, have always had measurable positive effects on the physical realms that surround my everyday existence... even if it is a product of misguided wisdom. I will always appreciate their long and draw out taper back into the regular sense of self.
I much prefer that to a cliff's edge on any given springtime.
Xorkoth
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I just find it has a wider range of effects. In low amounts it feels temporarily grounding from the dissociation. On MXE in particular (also 3-MeO-PCE I notice), a slightly higher amount sometimes gives me a big rush of euphoria, which isn't typical for me (nicotine normally doesn't feel euphoric at all to me). I guess I just feel it more. I don't feel there's any negative interaction or anything.
Help?!?!
Bluelighter
There shouldn't be....Nictoine/tobaccos HL is really short anyways, even if your smoking cigars or other high level product... I only smoke when I do chemicals, sober I can take them or leave them, but intoxicated I smoke 'em if I got 'em...!
treezy z
Bluelighter
There have been theories that the nicotine receptors make it easier for people with schizophrenia to think clearly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia_and_smoking
There's a brief mention of that there.
The current paradigm of schizophrenia research is focusing on NMDA receptors.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22987850
So it may be that nicotine helps you have a more lucid trip. I certainly like it when I'm dissociated, and other times as well. I switched to a vape pen because smokes were killing me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia_and_smoking
There's a brief mention of that there.
The current paradigm of schizophrenia research is focusing on NMDA receptors.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22987850
So it may be that nicotine helps you have a more lucid trip. I certainly like it when I'm dissociated, and other times as well. I switched to a vape pen because smokes were killing me.
Crashing
Bluelighter
Help?!?!?!? man you are so right about this drug! I haven't dosed in over a day and I think I'm still getting higher. I just checked the mirror and I look completely deranged. It's like a Bi-polar rollercoaster, surely my social life is being demolished! Hell, I'm sure everyone on these forums has just been skimming past everything I've been posting since... ages ago.
It's kinda funny, it's kinda sad. I don't really mind, but fucking hell man! Flabbergasted, bewildered, discombobulated....
edit - but honestly when i think back about it, my social life is actually being completely repaired, and my work relations are getting much stronger... as far as i can tell... i guess i'm sort of scared, but mostly excited... i just feel like a good page may have been turned. I'm definitely not gonna dose again for several days. I probably went through 500mg in 2 weeks and it's steadily building up. I just hope I didn't go too far already.
It's kinda funny, it's kinda sad. I don't really mind, but fucking hell man! Flabbergasted, bewildered, discombobulated....
edit - but honestly when i think back about it, my social life is actually being completely repaired, and my work relations are getting much stronger... as far as i can tell... i guess i'm sort of scared, but mostly excited... i just feel like a good page may have been turned. I'm definitely not gonna dose again for several days. I probably went through 500mg in 2 weeks and it's steadily building up. I just hope I didn't go too far already.
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Hahaha, I've definitely noticed a lot of the same things. For what it's worth, I've enjoyed reading your posts, if only because it makes me feel less alone on this rollercoaster. Definitely good to take breaks from this stuff, easier said than done though!
I definitely feel like I've turned a page in my life since this has entered my life, and for better or worse, I'm shooting for the moon.
Crashing
Bluelighter
Interesting Treezy, I suspect i have latent schitzophrenia, as paranoid schitzophrenia runs in the family and I've experienced every hallmark symptom of the disorder in regular frequency as far as my memory serves me. It seems nicotine can really just straighten out my perceptual field should it go awry while using these substances.
I guess earlier I got a bit overwhelmed by my inability to feel negativity, and sort of felt like maybe I would be facing some severe consequence. I wouldn't call it anxiety though, I'm familiar with that... more of a backwards delusion.
I went out and got a new bowl this evening at a new vape shop in town (who is introducing subculture to an awesome area that is currently overrun by old people) and took a hit of weed and the experience that followed revealed great epiphanies about myself. For the past few months, I haven't had cannabis, only synthetic cannbinoids on a semi regular binge basis. In retrospect, find synths to be hedonistic not therapeutic, although any activity can be this way with an addictive mind.
While baked, I could clearly understand the nature of my cycles. I felt like instead of aspiring to be a better person than I am, I should embrace the person that I actually am in order to move forward in the present. Why daydream of the future, and what's the point in dwelling on the past? Many of our ideas about the way life should be, and what defines a home, are merely a unique psychological design that's been introduced through a system of greed and tyranny.
I don't need a 'place' to call home, I don't need an 'occupation' to define me. What interests me is new experiences, meeting new people, and seeing different parts of the country and possibly the world. My girl and I are currently able to support ourselves on relatively low wages, and can easily find similar jobs and possibly even better jobs in more progressive parts of society. Being sedentary and trying to fulfill this obligation to make a stake somewhere and build some type of 'castle' is what causes me to become lazy, unmotivated, and depressed. That may be why I turn to things like opiates, alcohol, stimulants, cannabis, and even dissociatives in the first place. Maybe I'm just someone who needs to feed my cyclical nature in a more proactive, healthier way of life.
I really appreciate your comment Bluuberry, and I don't doubt that all this realization could be entirely a product of false hope due to the lingering intoxication of abusing a barrage of some of the most mentally perplexing drugs available. But if this truly is the case, then perhaps I will seriously look into a lifelong regimen of weekly, bi-weekly, or even monthly dissociative use. Just to keep my self destructive mind properly calibrated, or if anything a breath of fresh air to look forward to if and when the reality at the time does happen to become a bit mundane.
I guess earlier I got a bit overwhelmed by my inability to feel negativity, and sort of felt like maybe I would be facing some severe consequence. I wouldn't call it anxiety though, I'm familiar with that... more of a backwards delusion.
I went out and got a new bowl this evening at a new vape shop in town (who is introducing subculture to an awesome area that is currently overrun by old people) and took a hit of weed and the experience that followed revealed great epiphanies about myself. For the past few months, I haven't had cannabis, only synthetic cannbinoids on a semi regular binge basis. In retrospect, find synths to be hedonistic not therapeutic, although any activity can be this way with an addictive mind.
While baked, I could clearly understand the nature of my cycles. I felt like instead of aspiring to be a better person than I am, I should embrace the person that I actually am in order to move forward in the present. Why daydream of the future, and what's the point in dwelling on the past? Many of our ideas about the way life should be, and what defines a home, are merely a unique psychological design that's been introduced through a system of greed and tyranny.
I don't need a 'place' to call home, I don't need an 'occupation' to define me. What interests me is new experiences, meeting new people, and seeing different parts of the country and possibly the world. My girl and I are currently able to support ourselves on relatively low wages, and can easily find similar jobs and possibly even better jobs in more progressive parts of society. Being sedentary and trying to fulfill this obligation to make a stake somewhere and build some type of 'castle' is what causes me to become lazy, unmotivated, and depressed. That may be why I turn to things like opiates, alcohol, stimulants, cannabis, and even dissociatives in the first place. Maybe I'm just someone who needs to feed my cyclical nature in a more proactive, healthier way of life.
I really appreciate your comment Bluuberry, and I don't doubt that all this realization could be entirely a product of false hope due to the lingering intoxication of abusing a barrage of some of the most mentally perplexing drugs available. But if this truly is the case, then perhaps I will seriously look into a lifelong regimen of weekly, bi-weekly, or even monthly dissociative use. Just to keep my self destructive mind properly calibrated, or if anything a breath of fresh air to look forward to if and when the reality at the time does happen to become a bit mundane.
The Hypnotist
Bluelighter
I had some trials at 3, 5.5, 8 and 10mg. It's quite impresive how much of a difference can make 2mg increases on that one.
3mg was uninteristing but clearly noticeable. 5.5mg was quite interesting, intelectual and peaceful. 8mg was the best disociative experience I had ever had, explosion of creativity and understanding, at the level of best psychedelics but in a different way...And 10mg was starting to be strong and a bit too much delusional for my taste.
In summary I was really enthusiastic about that one. Though my last 10mg experience I had in an exhausted mental and psysical state, due to lack of sleep for 2 days left me doubting. I don't know how much was due to my set or how much to the drug itself.
Basically the effect was much more disociative like, this time I could feel some similarities with the most popular dissos. It knocked me out about 2 hours after kicking in. I hate when I fall sleep in the middle of a experience what a waste of valuable tolerance. Thought the annoying stimulation was gonna play in my advantage though it was not there when you need it.
The first hour was quite alright but much blurry and less clear headed than 8mg in a not tired state. By second hour I started getting into nonsense territory. I had been reading lately quite a lot about shamanism and how shamans believe they can travel to the future and the past. I had some conversation with a friend about that...and he commented how would it be impossible to get the next lottery number. So ya, 3-meo-pcp gave me a number...and a phone number too on top of that...maybe a really hot and nice woman...he didn't say. Quite interestingly the amount of numbers were right in both cases, and during the trip I was kind of believing.
I don't know if the lesson should be just 'don't take psychedelics when you are nackered, however stimulant they are'. Or I should add...and 'high doses of 3-meo-pcp will just give me unuseful misdirections'. I don't like judging too fast and I will give 3-meo-pcp lots of chances on my part as the 5.5mg and 8mg experiences were very satisfying. So I'm gonna keep my 2mg increases to see where it takes me. Though now I feel I should treat it like a good friend who failed you before.
P.D.Next day I saw and add with a date for a special lottery draw. I don't believe a word of what 3-meo-pcp told me though I might buy the ticket just in case...Maybe I should call the phone number before and ask if I'm talking to God.
3mg was uninteristing but clearly noticeable. 5.5mg was quite interesting, intelectual and peaceful. 8mg was the best disociative experience I had ever had, explosion of creativity and understanding, at the level of best psychedelics but in a different way...And 10mg was starting to be strong and a bit too much delusional for my taste.
In summary I was really enthusiastic about that one. Though my last 10mg experience I had in an exhausted mental and psysical state, due to lack of sleep for 2 days left me doubting. I don't know how much was due to my set or how much to the drug itself.
Basically the effect was much more disociative like, this time I could feel some similarities with the most popular dissos. It knocked me out about 2 hours after kicking in. I hate when I fall sleep in the middle of a experience what a waste of valuable tolerance. Thought the annoying stimulation was gonna play in my advantage though it was not there when you need it.
The first hour was quite alright but much blurry and less clear headed than 8mg in a not tired state. By second hour I started getting into nonsense territory. I had been reading lately quite a lot about shamanism and how shamans believe they can travel to the future and the past. I had some conversation with a friend about that...and he commented how would it be impossible to get the next lottery number. So ya, 3-meo-pcp gave me a number...and a phone number too on top of that...maybe a really hot and nice woman...he didn't say. Quite interestingly the amount of numbers were right in both cases, and during the trip I was kind of believing.
I don't know if the lesson should be just 'don't take psychedelics when you are nackered, however stimulant they are'. Or I should add...and 'high doses of 3-meo-pcp will just give me unuseful misdirections'. I don't like judging too fast and I will give 3-meo-pcp lots of chances on my part as the 5.5mg and 8mg experiences were very satisfying. So I'm gonna keep my 2mg increases to see where it takes me. Though now I feel I should treat it like a good friend who failed you before.
P.D.Next day I saw and add with a date for a special lottery draw. I don't believe a word of what 3-meo-pcp told me though I might buy the ticket just in case...Maybe I should call the phone number before and ask if I'm talking to God.
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