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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

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So last week I finally got around to trying this. Despite the warnings I decided to take 17mg of this and it was pretty much roughly what I expected in terms of intensity. As others mentioned, this substance lacks any real euphoria for me, I might even go so far as to say its slightly dysphoric. Shulgin described 2C-D as psychedelic tofu, I would describe this as a big bowl of cold, unsweetened gummy oatmeal for the brain. You can kind of see the potential for it to be a tasty breakfast treat but someone burnt that shit and forgot to put the milk and sugar in it and it sat there and got cold. For contrast, MXE is like some fine steel cuts oats with the perfect ratio of cinnamon, sugar and milk. Its also the perfect temperature to just dig in and enjoy. This stuff just felt lacking in flavor in almost every conceivable way for me, but I can only compare it to MXE and 4-MeO-PCP.

I spent most of the experience laying around feeling like I needed to wiggle and breathe extra deep. Apparently at around the 3 hr mark I got up and made myself a fairly involved grilled cheese sandwich with grilled apples and onions and tomato basil soup. My partner said that she was watching me for a while to make sure I didnt fuck myself up but I was pretty coordinated so she let me be. I dont have ANY recollection of the actual cooking but I remember sitting down at the table not knowing where I got the food but being pleased that someone made me lunch. I burnt the absolute shit out of my mouth on the soup and didnt really notice until I was around baseline and realized my mouth had bubbled from the heat. It still hurts.

I think I will be waiting for the MXE train to come back around before I do any more dissos.
 
On proper pure batches of this stuff the intolerant could get mania at about 10mg, I've not seen any pure batches though compared to reports a few years ago.
This stuff is mania in a bag and a dry dissociative, stay away from it unless you are truly interested in the workings of the human mind. I would not recommend it as a recreational or spiritual substance it is far too easy to get mania like effects and it lasts a long time (cognitive and motor skills still gone at over 24-36 hours in the past despite feeling functional).

Those looking a K/MXE alternative your in the wrong place this is not that type of chemical.

I've yet to see anyone who really enjoys this chemical that can't speak about the mania side and these headspaces appear more volatile to becoming permanent or feed into the sober mind than other chemicals, essentially there isn't always a reset or sober up button but I've also seen many reports of people taking exceptional doses of this and being ok. It really is unpredictable and I wonder if its due to the purity variance in batches.
 
On the contrary, I believe the difference in opinions is due to batch variations not unlike what we have seen with MXE. Basically there are 'dark' batches and 'light' batches. Some lead to a euphoric state while others tend towards dysphoric. I don't have concrete evidence to back it up yet but am in the process of figuring it out.
 
i love this stuff. definitely not shilling for a vendor. it is indeed a very different beast than most other dissociatives that are regularly around. and it can indeed produce mania. and it can indeed lead to mental addiction.
 
Ok yeah I kind of loved it too tbh until I went too manic had a fucked up experience then flushed it. I'd prefer some good ol' mxe but it does hit the spot. I wish I didn't flush it I've done everything in my power to get over it, but it was great having some pain relief and mental blankness/antidepressiveness? Lol
 
I just made my 9mg/1ml 3-meo-pcp vial and am enjoying it a lot just squirting it up my nose! I tried IV but there didn't seem to be much of anything there. I haven't had a chance to read through all 17 pages of this yet, but is this normal? I am getting strong reactions instranasally (1-4mg), whereas 3mg IV didn't do anything?

So this is a waste IV then? or what? I'm going to continue just using it up my nostril, must be so much easier on the membranes than powder and I know the exact dose I am getting due to the volumetric dosing!
 
how would one compare this to mxe? I've done it once but I don't remember it all that well, I know it's more energetic than mxe but it didn't seem like the type of drug that could produce vivid mind movies like mxe can. Anyone wanna give a comparison?
 
I enjoy 3-meo-pcp MUCH more than MXE. Back when MXE first hit the market, I was on it for a good month straight and it just felt like light loopy K to me. 3-meo-pcp is the shit. High doses can really be terrifying (as I learned last time I tried it) but this time around I haven't even dosed over 8mg and was ROCKED. This is the real deal. MXE always left me with a weird dissociated afterglow that was slightly uncomfortable for me as well, with 3-meo-pcp I get none of that. I would never want to do MXE again after getting more of this 3-meo-pcp. Just my opinion, though. I do prefer the long half life and low dose/high dose-response curve of 3-meo-pcp...

edit: I have had more vivid mind movies in the past few days on this new batch of 3-meo-pcp than I ever got from the MXE I was getting in bulk back in the day (years ago). Pretty much like lucid dreaming, but fully concious. I fucking love it. Now I know why I quit shooting dope!!!
 
what were the mind movies like? describe em for me if ya could %)

also will high doses make you immobile like mxe?
 
No I could open my eyes any time I want and get rid of them which I will sometimes do if a vision is not so nice looking to me u know, but they look like you are seeing a legit alternate reality, like there is a parallel dimension there or something. I can hear them talking too. Clear as day. I know it isn't with my ears, but you can't tell the difference.

Some serious shit if i may say so myself sir. Gonna make sure to stock up ;)

EDIT: ever seen the show fringe? there's an episode where he describes the visions they were inducing with LSD and other psychedelics and that it was their theory that there actually WAS another physical dimension there. That's where he got the idea the build the thing and that's the whole premise of the goddamn show!

EDIT 2: I have seen similarly "realistic" looking visions on high doses of pure family LSD.

This is really interesting territory were getting into here if you ask me. That's why I'm posting this right now.

EDIT 3 : I do not recommend this, but during a recent binge on etizolam and clonazolam, they seemed to make the visions even clearer. and there was one instance i will never forget. I had just dosed like 4mg of etiz (redose) and decided to give the 3meopcp i had just got a try, so i did a TINY amount, like 5mg maybe 7 (mg scales can only be so accurate and i dont know anyone who can afford a microgram scale lol) but i fell asleep, and when i woke up i immediately remembered i had taken pcp, and I was thinking this is kinda cool wow walking around the apartment but i noticed i was hearing voices, people conversating, and when i closed my eyes, it was like i was in a room with all these people clear as day. no fractals and shit like that im talking clear as fucking day.

I really think were on to something man.


also i notice i think in different accents and foreign languages while on certain doses (they have all been pretty low though which is interesting).. and can easily take on say an English (UK) accent for an hour or more perfectly unable to talk in my normal American accent, or a southern black woman was my most recent experience in this regard. fucking CRAZY!!! u cant make this shit up!

EDIT last edit - my running theory is this is exactly what it is to be paranoid schizophrenic... I'll leave u with that (been studying psychology for years).


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also will high doses make you immobile like mxe?
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NO! bc unlike K and MXE, as I understand it PCP and it's analogues release epinephrine, and that is why users don't "hole". I think I may have read somewhere that this may be due to some other mechanism, though, so don't quote me on that, but on high doses you can definitely run amok. Hence why this is so dangerous at higher doses. I have had some bad times at high doses on this drug. It is definitely better researched on the low end. I'm willing to bet others will agree with me.
 
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Damonsta I'm totally with you on every point you have made in your last couple posts. I had the same type of visions. Not the kind of stuff that my mind would dream up by itself, and it would be lucid or at least semi-lucod and I can just open my eyes if I don't want to render a particular scene, and close my eyes and get right back into the story. I can imagine a low dose benzo could help the mind tune into it. I found that when I dosed 3-meo before bed the visions are basically guaranteed, no other supplements needed.
 
I used to channel accents and otherwise foreign consciousness on MXE, not so much on 3-meo. The thick English accent is one I found myself in on multiple occasions.
 
I am having trouble obtaining a standardized procedure for procuring these visions. I am experimenting tonight, and the one night of all nights my mg scale takes a shit, i guess the batteries they ship them with suck. So I have been insufflating tiny tiny amounts from a micro spoon type of tool. I haven't tried any clonazolam this evening, only etizolam. Maybe the two synergize together along with the 3meopcp to give this clarity of visions? I am unsure how to proceed (if I should add .5mg clonazolam). I am already feeling the 3meopcp, but no visions like I experienced before. Just the usual fractal/color swirls. etc. Maybe tolerance from the last session is affecting this one?

There has to be some kind of formula we can come up with here guys. I feel like we are really onto something. I feel that I speak for many when I say that I want to explore this parallel world more. I wish they would just put us all in some "think tank" to strap on our psychonaut helmets and dive in, with us reporting our experiences.

I do feel very at peace, no anxiety, but the pictures just aren't there. Can anyone contribute to this?
 
You want to develop a standard protocol for accessing clairvoyant capacities through dissociatives? I can get on board that kind of project.

Intuition is the guiding light. When it feels right, why not? Visions come most readily without resistance or interference at 'the witching hour', when one would normally be asleep/dreaming.

Benzos may help in some instance, like in the daytime if the set and setting align. They may however muddy the transmission. I can't say because I don't have experience mixing other drugs when I experience it. It may be that the clearest signal is received when only 3meo is used. Just speculation at this point.

At any rate, I will be researching.
 
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You want to develop a standard protocol for accessing clairvoyant capacities through dissociatives? I can get on board that kind of project.

Intuition is the guiding light. When it feels right, why not? Visions come most readily without resistance or interference at 'the witching hour', when one would normally be asleep/dreaming.

Benzos may help in some instance, like in the daytime if the set and setting align. They may however muddy the transmission. I can't say because I don't have experience mixing other drugs when I experience it. It may be that the clearest signal is received when only 3meo is used. Just speculation at this point.

At any rate, I will be researching.
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I tried again last night, to get the visions. All I got was a badass k on steroids high and crazy intense imagery but nothing open eye, no voices, etc. ended up being a really really strong trip, not like the previous low dose w benzos and bupe visions. maybe that is the key. I did too much, and too much just is too much for these visions and u get into full blown fractal territory. going to take a tolerance break and try at low doses again. High doses won't give em.I think highish dose of etiz and/or clonaz beforehand and a low threshold dose of 3meo may be the key. will report back later.
 
Good idea, definitely take tolerance breaks with this stuff. High doses can be really negative, I found anything under 10 mg to be lacking and over 20 to be too fucked up. I messed up my whole house just by mixing beers with it at dose around 10-15 mg, so be careful mixing benzos especially clonazolam with it. I do find insight from dissocs sometimes, but it can just be considered grandiose delusion when I sober up. I think I just may of gotten all the insight I can use from k/mxe. Using this stuff too often drove me "manic" and ended up flushing it TWICE lol. I'm going to have a friend hold it all next time, moderate my use, and report back.
 
This post concerns me. A batch of this stuff that'll still get you high but in a messed up way. Any truth to this?

That being said, I did read a report recently about a batch of 3-meo-pcp (not from HS) that gave terrible fogginess for days, and smelled like almonds. This could indicate that there's a bad batch

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