vortech
Bluelighter
Psy 997, I just noticed we have the same bluelight join date, and that you have 666 posts. Make the next one a righteous one.
The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity
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Help?!?!
Bluelighter
Whoah whoah there man. 3-MeO-PCP is not something to trifle with like some child. It only takes once or twice, IMO. You gander into the canyon pure mania and insanity, you won't long to return. Drifting on the edge is enough, believe me. In a way I'm kind of tired of seeing people say " Oh I have a huge tolerance so....". Maybe your make up is better suited to revel in the madness, but that isn't nessacarily a good thing! Give me the purest MXE you can find(I know I know, "Oh this guy", spiel is coming into play, but I've had users of this very site claim on SoS/etc. that tge very batch of MXE, the same as I bought blew them out of the water to the point that they wouldn't pass 100mgs...)and I'll slam 250mgs into my thigh. I haven't done any in a couple of months either. Yes I will be increadibly fucked for a few hours, possibly not able to move, but I'll come out the other side. Probably even liking the whole thing. 3-MeO-PCP? I wouldn't IM much more than 15mgs at a time. Hell maybe I'm just wired to MXE better, but I've also traveled to depths most people haven't with psychedelics. Places and doses only a few could enjoy. Yet the madness 3-MeO-PCP inflicts is just to pure. It's also lacking in the respites other chemicals have, like a balance beam. Even though your as mad as a hatter can be, there's still some cushion. With this its just purine insanity. Who knows though honestly, besides when I dosed daily for a bit more than a month, maybe I reached high levels of 3-MeO-PCP, but in my mind, I doubt it. I'm sure I managed the accumulate a large amount of its metabolites, but I doubt I ever reached that level where you teeter on the edge. To me it was always noticeable. I would dose and within thirty or so minutes it was like I could feel another part of me consume me, Hyde style. Once there, there was no return, only the slow slope back to reality. So to me....IDK, I'm not bothered when people talk about dosing high, as long as they don't tout it as something to strive for. To be insane is not something one would willingly accept under most circumstances. There maybe be pieces of peace in mental disorder but mostly there only lies confusion and a wish to be normal, to be able to interact like others do, without the underlying knowledge that the demons that haunt you are always just around the corner......
I wasn't one of the originals, those few who got to taste the small first batch of 3-MeO-PCP but I did recieve a gram of the larger batch released soon after. I was one of the first to report on MXE(obviously not on this site....), one of the first to recieve. It's been a long time since then, and there have been many disscociatives to enter my mind since then, including the originals. That's why there's always a few of us lurking and warning(TNW, Solipsis, Knock((RIP brother!)), etc). I suppose it really doesn't matter though....at the end of the day, humans do as humans do, and you can only conrol you while heeding others not to stray as you have. There is nothing to be found in the madness of higher dose 3-MeO-PCP, that I can tell you. You may be able to mangle something out of it, but it simply isn't like the others, it's just a chasm that looks appealing, and gorgeous during the day. However the darkness and cold of night always lurk to transform what was once a dream into a disater. Be warned....
How fitting that we have the same join dates, I find myself very much in alignment with what you strive for
vortech
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Circuit complete.
yepyepwoah
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I kinda agree with help. The deepest I ever got with 3 meo PCP was the first time. The more dissociatives / closer to a "hole" type experience the more I sensed a form of madness lurking. Like, I am not sure I wont end up hospitalized or jailed and not remember a thing, type of shit. It was kind of scary.
I have lost myself pretty deep on psych/diss combos, but the 3 meo just feels like high doses might end up me blacking out in the street saying I am Jesus, best case scenario...
I like it in 5-10mg doses oral. Spaced out by 2-3 hours. Works well in that capacity, but k and mxe would have to be 4 digit per gram prices for me to want to use 3 meo PCP like either of them... YMMV
Vortech. I think 3 meo PCP would go nice with dpt. I would personally take an oral dose of 10-12mg 3 meo PCP and plug the dpt after an hour or hour and a half. I think you IM tho, so have fun, but be careful
I have lost myself pretty deep on psych/diss combos, but the 3 meo just feels like high doses might end up me blacking out in the street saying I am Jesus, best case scenario...
I like it in 5-10mg doses oral. Spaced out by 2-3 hours. Works well in that capacity, but k and mxe would have to be 4 digit per gram prices for me to want to use 3 meo PCP like either of them... YMMV
Vortech. I think 3 meo PCP would go nice with dpt. I would personally take an oral dose of 10-12mg 3 meo PCP and plug the dpt after an hour or hour and a half. I think you IM tho, so have fun, but be careful
Help?!?!
Bluelighter
No, I do, certainly, IM most compounds but with 3-MeO-PCP I'm always extra careful. Ask Solpsis, IM can be tricky. Maybe it's the metbolite formation, but it's a risky road. Unlike PCP, ketamine, and MXE, this one will not anesthize you to the point where you can't move. If you can't move all you can do is revel in the madness,....but if you can...
Well now that you mentioned it, just this week after my first i.v. dose of 3-MeO-PCP did I ingest about 50 mg of DPT orally (first time). To be honest, I do not remember much. I was ok. Haha!
BTW I have only shot up 3-MeO-PCP now twice and that's my only experience of i.v. use of any drug for that matter, I can't really recommend it, other ROAs are well good and don't lead to such confusion and feelings of "I'm quite stupid".
God bless.
ecstacylover
Bluelighter
vortech , ive been considering the 3meo/dpt combo for awhile now. let me know how it goes.
Help, I think your the buildup of metabolites from a month of daily dosing had a lot to do with the insanity you preach with this one.
I've plugged 70mg over the span of a few hrs and it was nowhere near the insanity I experienced with a buildup of heavy doses for a week on end.
Personally I found there was a lot to be learned from the state of insanity and I felt i came back a much more mature person.
of course this one is different then mxe, ive plugged 300+ mg of mxe at once and plugged whole grams in a day, you dont approach 3meo like that. i dont think anyone is coming on here to brag though, just like you push serotonergic psychs to the limit , that is how i approach dissos, psychs i am usually much more cautious with , unless in combination with a disso.
Help, I think your the buildup of metabolites from a month of daily dosing had a lot to do with the insanity you preach with this one.
I've plugged 70mg over the span of a few hrs and it was nowhere near the insanity I experienced with a buildup of heavy doses for a week on end.
Personally I found there was a lot to be learned from the state of insanity and I felt i came back a much more mature person.
of course this one is different then mxe, ive plugged 300+ mg of mxe at once and plugged whole grams in a day, you dont approach 3meo like that. i dont think anyone is coming on here to brag though, just like you push serotonergic psychs to the limit , that is how i approach dissos, psychs i am usually much more cautious with , unless in combination with a disso.
^Indeed, with this chemical one has to take notice of the magnificient buildup which happens with daily use and results in unbelievable states of insanity and wisdom. Do not preach to dumb ears in the state of mania if you are not listened, they will not listen if you are a madman. Those who are in the know or learning can read the message between the lines when you say the right things. Vortech, take care and keep up the good work.
Myself I'm out of 3-MeO-PCP which is probably a good thing... Went through probably 0,5g in a week with polydrug use, buprenorphine and benzos, alcohol, one instance of DPT as reported, I have nothing to report of that because of my memory loss, too bad, DPT seems like a fine thing. I've been having a persistent cough for a week now, the drug seems to help but also I believe it worsens my condition in the end if I would continue. We'll see. I have no urge to die yet, there is so much more to learn and live and give.
Peace!
Myself I'm out of 3-MeO-PCP which is probably a good thing... Went through probably 0,5g in a week with polydrug use, buprenorphine and benzos, alcohol, one instance of DPT as reported, I have nothing to report of that because of my memory loss, too bad, DPT seems like a fine thing. I've been having a persistent cough for a week now, the drug seems to help but also I believe it worsens my condition in the end if I would continue. We'll see. I have no urge to die yet, there is so much more to learn and live and give.
Peace!
Help?!?!
Bluelighter
Ha, that's how I approached everything. I've already posted about the time when I spilled something like 250ishmgs and gathered what I could then ate the rest. It was at a time when a gram cost more than you can imagine, right around when it was first released. I wasn't trying to down you, rather dissuade those from doing what you've done(it was the way vor acted as if your some cavalier...). This is something you don't want to play with. The first time I dosed 3-MeO was in 2011 or early 12. I'm not just dipping my feet in....
When I dosed daily, that was the only time I felt I might handle a large dose. I mean I have....but there's little point. You can gain from anything if you try hard enough, trust me. I guess if you want to drown in utter madness....that's fine. It's like with ketamine or nitrous. They don't call those two psychedelic herion and hippy crack for no reason.... The only dissociative I've done at high doses that felt psychedelic in a really useful way was MXE...well and I guess 4-MeO-PCP, but that ones a bit to scattered to be really useful. I mean don't get me wrong, a k hole now and then can be exactly what the doctor ordered, but as the old adage goes, everything is a poison at some point. Low doses of ketamine are defintely viable, but as long as you can keep your cool with the weirdness high doses are just what there named, holes. Don't get me wrong, used correctly, and in the proper way they can ge great, but used foolishly.......
I just don't want to see people read posts and be like, "Oh heys, this guise slamming 50mgs at a time, I can too". Once again it had more to do with vortech praising you for being able to handle high doses. If you gave it to me, especially right now, 750mgs of mescaline, 20mgs of 2c-E, 200 or so nice of LSD, some DMT/MET/DPT, 150mgs of ketamine IM or 80-120mgs of MXE IM, maybe even a dash of some nexus, 75mgs of MDA or 50mgs of 6-APDB IM, plus some nitrous after the K started to wear down, and a couple chargers for the peak, and I'd do it right now. Not dicksizing or anything, it's just how it is. Try to get me to eat much more than 15mgs of 3-MeO-PCP and I'd hesitate to do it for the most part. Maybe your just better suited for biologically than I am, and that's fine. Report what you do, but warn others. I would never, ever, tell the majority of people reading this to try the combo I listed(I've done it, minus the nitrous....sadly, haha). I would tell them, I loved it, but there's the difference.
So many users, some of the hardest hitters you'll ever hope to see on this site have been brought down by high doses of 3-MeO-PCP. Hell I'd rather dose 35mgs of plain PCP at once than 20mgs of its 3-MeO counterpart. At least while reality is shredded around me, I'd have a hard time moving much.....
When I dosed daily, that was the only time I felt I might handle a large dose. I mean I have....but there's little point. You can gain from anything if you try hard enough, trust me. I guess if you want to drown in utter madness....that's fine. It's like with ketamine or nitrous. They don't call those two psychedelic herion and hippy crack for no reason.... The only dissociative I've done at high doses that felt psychedelic in a really useful way was MXE...well and I guess 4-MeO-PCP, but that ones a bit to scattered to be really useful. I mean don't get me wrong, a k hole now and then can be exactly what the doctor ordered, but as the old adage goes, everything is a poison at some point. Low doses of ketamine are defintely viable, but as long as you can keep your cool with the weirdness high doses are just what there named, holes. Don't get me wrong, used correctly, and in the proper way they can ge great, but used foolishly.......
I just don't want to see people read posts and be like, "Oh heys, this guise slamming 50mgs at a time, I can too". Once again it had more to do with vortech praising you for being able to handle high doses. If you gave it to me, especially right now, 750mgs of mescaline, 20mgs of 2c-E, 200 or so nice of LSD, some DMT/MET/DPT, 150mgs of ketamine IM or 80-120mgs of MXE IM, maybe even a dash of some nexus, 75mgs of MDA or 50mgs of 6-APDB IM, plus some nitrous after the K started to wear down, and a couple chargers for the peak, and I'd do it right now. Not dicksizing or anything, it's just how it is. Try to get me to eat much more than 15mgs of 3-MeO-PCP and I'd hesitate to do it for the most part. Maybe your just better suited for biologically than I am, and that's fine. Report what you do, but warn others. I would never, ever, tell the majority of people reading this to try the combo I listed(I've done it, minus the nitrous....sadly, haha). I would tell them, I loved it, but there's the difference.
So many users, some of the hardest hitters you'll ever hope to see on this site have been brought down by high doses of 3-MeO-PCP. Hell I'd rather dose 35mgs of plain PCP at once than 20mgs of its 3-MeO counterpart. At least while reality is shredded around me, I'd have a hard time moving much.....
vortech
Bluelighter
I will not be IM/IVing, oral 3meo and nasal DPT will be plenty strong. I actually made an oath on the bible recently that I would not willingly inject another drug in this lifetime. I don't need to, for I am already awake.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Anyone combined a low dose of 3-MeO-PCP with LSD? I am taking LSD tonight for a music show and I had the thought to add a small amount of 3-MeO-PCP, like 5mg maybe. Thing is, I took 10mg last time (my first time), and then added 20mg of 4-HO-MiPT and I felt like the MiPT could barely be sensed above the 3-MeO-PCP, like it was entirely transparent and almost hidden. Very strange and it made me think maybe this doesn't combine so well with psychedelics?
pharmakos
Bluelighter
in my experience you are right about how psychedelics are pretty transparent when done on top of 3-MeO-PCP. 1mg of DOC along with 10mg 3-MeO-PCP was really enjoyable tho, even tho i was very much grounded in reality. never specifically taken it with LSD.
i feel like smoking enough weed on a combo like that would really bring out both substances, but i've never pushed my cannabinoid dosage on those combos.
i feel like smoking enough weed on a combo like that would really bring out both substances, but i've never pushed my cannabinoid dosage on those combos.
polidelaiko
Bluelighter
Not LSD, but i did 1p-lsd on top of various doses of 3-meo-pcp and they seemed to interact just fine. Didnt try the 1p in other ocassions but it seemed stronger than I expected (57ugs being very visual)
StickyChron
Bluelighter
Certain posters make these threads almost unreadable, along with the MXE thread. I hope the mods will try to be more diligent in the future with threads like this, I know it must be difficult to keep up with all these highly informative posts. :/ (Not meant to bash the mods, you guys are great.)
You literally have to sift through countless garbage posts to find anything of use in this or the current MXE thread. It's obnoxious to me how many times one user in particular felt the need to reiterate his viewpoint upwards of 10 times in multiple ways, to multiple people. Then again I've always disliked this users rhetoric, no matter the opinion involved.
I recently procured some of this substance but have yet to give it a go. After much sifting I've found enough helpful posts with real info to feel comfortable with my starting dose; 17mg. I will be posting a trip report in the coming week! Thank you to the people who aren't here to dick size and brag about their excessive drug use and ability to handle "epic doses"...ugh.
You literally have to sift through countless garbage posts to find anything of use in this or the current MXE thread. It's obnoxious to me how many times one user in particular felt the need to reiterate his viewpoint upwards of 10 times in multiple ways, to multiple people. Then again I've always disliked this users rhetoric, no matter the opinion involved.
I recently procured some of this substance but have yet to give it a go. After much sifting I've found enough helpful posts with real info to feel comfortable with my starting dose; 17mg. I will be posting a trip report in the coming week! Thank you to the people who aren't here to dick size and brag about their excessive drug use and ability to handle "epic doses"...ugh.
pharmakos
Bluelighter
17mg isn't a good starting dose. try out 5mg-10mg first and see how that treats you. if that treats you okay then 17mg might be a reasonable next jump up, depending on what you're looking for. if you're sensitive, tho, 17mg will be too much.
there isn't as much cross tolerance between this stuff and other dissociatives.
spelling it out more explicitly just in case -- if i binge on DXM then take some MXE, i will have to take more MXE than usual due to cross tolerance. but if i binge on DXM then take 3-MeO-PCP, my usual 3-MeO-PCP dose will still work. so don't assume that pre-existing tolerance to other dissociatives will allow you to start out on the deep end with this stuff. that assumption has gotten more than a few of us BLers in trouble in the past few years.
there isn't as much cross tolerance between this stuff and other dissociatives.
spelling it out more explicitly just in case -- if i binge on DXM then take some MXE, i will have to take more MXE than usual due to cross tolerance. but if i binge on DXM then take 3-MeO-PCP, my usual 3-MeO-PCP dose will still work. so don't assume that pre-existing tolerance to other dissociatives will allow you to start out on the deep end with this stuff. that assumption has gotten more than a few of us BLers in trouble in the past few years.
pharmakos
Bluelighter
keep in mind that the 2mg increment increases is probably only a good idea for this stuff if you space out a week between trips. this stuff accumulates in your system more than other drugs, and so titrating upwards like that on a daily or even bidaily basis isn't actually going to give you an accurate feel for dosages.
i think 10mg to 17mg would be a reasonable jump, so long as you're prepared for an intense experience -- at least that way you would rule out the possibility of being hypersensitive to the substance. jumping right in at 17mg tho is probably a bad idea, bad enough of an idea that i don't feel bad redundantly repeating it right now. =p
oh, and WRT chatter in this thread -- i check BL every day, and have followed all three 3-MeO-PCP threads since the beginning. if anyone has any questions that they can't/don't feel like digging through the old threads for, just ask. i have personally experienced both the best and the worst sides of this substance, and have read a lot of trip reports concerning it, so i feel reasonably confident answering most general questions about the stuff. (not trying to beat my e-peen =p just being honest.)
edit -- doh, that was a good post Listening! you should have kept it up. now my context is ruined haha.
i think 10mg to 17mg would be a reasonable jump, so long as you're prepared for an intense experience -- at least that way you would rule out the possibility of being hypersensitive to the substance. jumping right in at 17mg tho is probably a bad idea, bad enough of an idea that i don't feel bad redundantly repeating it right now. =p
oh, and WRT chatter in this thread -- i check BL every day, and have followed all three 3-MeO-PCP threads since the beginning. if anyone has any questions that they can't/don't feel like digging through the old threads for, just ask. i have personally experienced both the best and the worst sides of this substance, and have read a lot of trip reports concerning it, so i feel reasonably confident answering most general questions about the stuff. (not trying to beat my e-peen =p just being honest.)
edit -- doh, that was a good post Listening!
you should have kept it up. now my context is ruined haha.
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pharmakos
Bluelighter
eh discouraging jumping in at 17mg is worth the risk of being redundant.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
We've cleaned out both threads multiple times. Unfortunately the heavily trafficked dissociative threads tend to acquire a lot of posts that aren't very informative in nature. We'll clean them again soon.
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