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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

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lol what? elaborate on how a chemical has a spirit? and how a previous batch of the same chemical would have an difference other than purity/being an hcl/hbr ect?
 
sekio said:
3-meo and LSD is a good combo.
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How so? I'm wary of dosages with dis/psy combos as I find proper ketamine k-hole doses e.g. 200-250mg+ intense shit on LSD. Properly multiple realities appear to be occurring I recall watching cartoons and wearing the clothes of characters. Taken at squat parties its a pretty damn interesting one to say the least.

I can't imagine how you could get these two to synergise well, the mania of LSD is enough on the k dose at thinking something is happening or the world is taking off! I normally dose 300ug+ LSD though. Could see the duration of both going well, I can't find a fun use for 3-meo-pcp so wondering about synergising it.
 
^ oh god i did 300 ug LSZ and a bunch of mxe a year or 2 ago. I was with my girlfriend and she really wanted to watch the puppy bowl was on tv (puppies playing football). It was probably the most confusing strange experience of my life, really uncomfortable. I think I did too much mxe though. A lot of people love k+lsd but not as much as mdma+k. I wonder how 3-meo +mdma would work in moderate doses
 
1st day - 4 mg DOET with 30mg 2-FMA, and nycd at the beach.

2nd day - 15 mg 3-meo-PCP whilst looking at sea turtles and blue dream.

Just a few possibilities.

Love the day!
 
You have access to DOET too? I just tried it at 3.5mg for the first time, wrote a report about it... I found it pretty strange and not that pleasant at that dose. What's been your experience with it?
 
Am I weird for finding this stuff comparatively easy to sleep on in comparison to other dissociatives? Considering its reputation as a stimulating dissociative, I'm surprised by my experiences...

I've been dosing it daily for a while now, generally fairly low doses but I generally push my dosage up to the equivalent of 20mg+ towards the end of the day (can't be specific, I've been pretty haphazard with redosing tbh) and maintaining a sensible sleep schedule while working full-time. With MXE and ket I'd never be able to fall asleep until well after it had worn off, but with 3-meo-pcp I've been able to sleep within a couple of hours of taking a dose nasally or sublingually (bit of a waste I know, but I only have limited free time at the end of each day to play around with the less functional higher doses).
 
Am I the only one bothered by the vasconstriction caused by 3-MeO-PCP?
 
red22 said:
Am I the only one bothered by the vasconstriction caused by 3-MeO-PCP?
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I have tried doses of 2mg, 4mg, and 5mg+2mg at T+1h. Haven't noticed vasoconstriction, more like a numb tingle that I chalk up to dissosociation. And I get pretty noticeable vasoconstriction from 2-FMA and 3-FPM.

Last night was the 5mg+2mg. I think I'm starting to get my head around this chemical. The first three hours were spent around the family, doing household chores, ironing clothes, and watching TV. At times I found the stimulation a good aid in bustling around getting things done. When I tried to settle down and relax, I did not enjoy the disconnectedness from those nearby.

When I went to bed at about T+4h, I was in the tail of the effects. I have been trying to practice meditation. In a pitch dark room I listened to about 30 minutes of a Thich Nhat Hanh lecture on headphones, then I was able to focus on a mantra and drift away from my body. It was very fulfilling. I may have slept or just tranced out for about 45min, then returned to consciousness feeling enveloped in warmth and totally comfortable in my body. I wish I had dosed later, because I think I could have gone deeper.

I am feeling some good anti-depressant afterglow today.

One thing I have noticed is for a day or two afterward, my coordination will be affected. I commute by bicycle, and things like loading the bike on/off racks, locking, and carrying up/down stairs can result in banging around that I usually don't do. Interestingly, balance doesn't seem as affected.

Next I plan on 8mg all at once about an hour before lying down in the dark.
 
See I always hear about the issues with MXE and sleep and back in 11' when I was getting my first 4 batches of the best stuff I had no probems whatsoever falling asleep even shortly after dosing

But I also used alcohol weed and benzos with my MXE so maybe that was why

The batches I got in spring of 12' I for sure kept me awake at night....very weird how different those batches were
 
Well, because it can get a little hypomanic for an extended period, it can be acceptable to tune down with something like a benzo on the tail.
 
Thanks, I think I'm going to try drinking a beer every hour when ~6 mg starts kicking in. Think it should work well :)
 
I gradually took bigger spaces of 4-5 + and upwards between my low ~3 mg supplemental 3-MeO doses, but recently went back to a few days in a row because of the pressure of circumstances. Stopped again now. I really want to avoid being on it too much, since the bioaccumulation threat worries me as well as warnings that there is a nasty withdrawal syndrome if you take it too much chronically.

My doses, esp with my tolerance are probably low enough.. and I still have not really felt like I was on a dissociative trip at any point per se, but I dislike the psycho thoughts upon comedown of main effects. I ruminate on my current problems when I try to fall asleep, now it can spiral a bit out of control and causes depressed / almost suicidal thought and panic before I fall asleep a little later. It's pretty nice what it helped me with so far and what I was able to get away with but I would hate to push it further.

I think what it helps with is that it envigors and the mild dissociation makes you leave part of yourself at the door, but locking it away can occasionally feel like you hurt a very conscious and sensitive part of yourself. And coming out of it, you hope to reintegrate these parts of yourself you dissociate from, and it can hurt.

It's seductive since it helps me to be super functional when I feel like I need to be on occasion. But it is unwise to keep stacking up the anxieties that are dissociated and ignored temporarily. Taking some days this week to attain a little baseline and hope that it doesn't take too long for the chronic haze to lift.
 
You definitely need to read up about these interesting findings on the downstream / long term effects of dissociatives that seem to cause most of these problems including para-psychosis, mania, rebound and withdrawal. It's probably not actual tolerance like it occurs with dopaminergics or opioids but really downstream mechanisms, and there are ways to counter them. :)

Interleukin-6 Mediates the Increase in NADPH-Oxidase in the Ketamine Model of Schizophrenia
Ketamine-Induced Loss of Phenotype of Fast-Spiking Interneurons Is Mediated by NADPH-Oxidase
N-acetylcysteine in psychiatry: current therapeutic evidence and potential mechanisms of action <-- especially the part about oxidative homeostasis

Dextromethorphan inhibits the NADPH oxidase and actually takes the edge off the after effects from many dissociatives when taken at very low dosages! But that apocynin would make an even better option.
 
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