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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover

I caved and ordered more finally. I'm making three promises to myself, and if anyone cares, to all of you:

I will not use it daily ever again. Two days per week maximum.

I will only use it at home. What got me in trouble last time was a strong desire to get home combined with the delusion of sobriety.

I will only use it orally. I found nasal dosing started becoming a habit unto itself. This stuff really irritated the inside of my nose too, always a bit of red when I blew my nose.


I hope that by learning from past mistakes I can utilize 3-meo-pcp safely. Be careful, and show this one lots of respect.
 
Have any of you guys experienced a whirlwind like sensation of euphoria inside your head on a high dose with no tolerance, similar to how a bunch of N20 whippets would feel? It was the most lovely sensation I've ever felt besides maybe my DOC, LSD, N20 combo.
 
Hey everyone who has recently ceased daily use!!

It's been about 17 days or so since my last use...

I've continued my kratom habit(and it feels like I have a major tolerance now without the NMDA antagonist present) and have been eating much healthier!

I also have more hope about my living situation and saw a psychiatrist (nurse practitioner) and basically doubled the strength of my meds(currently at 100mg lamictal and 2mg Intuniv). So I spent the last month of two months using 3meopcp being on 50mg lamictal and 1mg Intuniv.

I feel pretty OK! I now have anxiety that I had before resurfacing.... It's so hard for me not to be twitchy!! But I've always had this problem... The first couple days I was pretty bored, had cravings, depression, a flat feeling... Lately I've been better! I have had some suicidal ideation but I've had that for a long time off and on. I've had some rough days but it's not so bad, probably thanks to kratom.

I find that (of course) staying busy, socializing, eating properly, and avoiding moments of just thinking(like browse the internet or Facebook instead of laying in bed) are essential for me now.

I have a terrible memory but my slipping up of words isn't so bad lately....

And now that I am reflecting on it, I have spent quite a bit of my sober time being "depressed". Laying in bed all day, not wanting to go outside, avoiding doing the things I should do and waiting until it's nearly too late.

I'm happy to have tossed my doses though because I know I lack self control. The days leading up to my final day had been rather horrible... A lot of depression and suicidal ideation while high. Planning my death and craving self harm. Even had cravings for 3meopcp that were totally insane. 3 hours after a dose I often felt this surge of anxiety and crawling of my skin like I GOTTA HAVE IT!! I believe this was because my adopted coping mechanism for depression, anxiety, cravings, boredem, anything, was to snort a little bump. Or maybe a come down.

Either way I found the drug, being used daily, to cause a lot of depression while using it. I had periods of non-daily at first that were straight hypomanic... If I only I hadn't used everyday and just took a break, I might have never tossed it and I could be high right now!!! Oh god!!

I believe what caused a lot of the negative effects were the stimulant properties of 3meopcp. About a year ago(May 28th) I had my last use with methamphetamine. My meth abuse was riddled with paranoia and schizo symptoms, even hearing voices without knowing it. I truly believed the neighbors were providing a dialogue of my actions(there he is shooting up again, look at him making food!!)

I had experiences with caffeine causing similar paranoia and dissociation even 6 months post getting completely clean.

So I believe the dopaminergic effects were mostly causing me negative responses to the drug(3meopcp). In that, when meth/cocaine abuse turns into mostly negative effects, a period of abstinence and then return to the drug, quickly leads back to the negative effects(paranoia instead of euphoria).

I kept abusing it, even in high doses and IV regardless of feeling suicidal every night or dealing with bouts of confusion, and a couple catatonic and near hole/or maybe it was hole, doses.

Clearly I have a lot of self destructive behavior.

The night before I tossed both of my 3-meo's I went catatonic from an IV dose. I had done an injection, felt great and dissociative, a little confused, and went ahead and made another shot, probably the same dose.... Made it from the bathroom back to my room and got stuck standing there, feeling... I can't remember these "holes" too well but it was insane in the head. Like I had no idea who I was or what was going on with my life and some other reality takes over... Completely strange although I kind of liked it the few or many times it happened to me.

If only I didn't abuse this drug to get so damned high so often!! I fucking truly love it! But I can't handle it with the seemingly subtleness of it and all.

Okay such a long post, must be the kratom!? Thank you for reading if you did and... Perhaps 3-ho-pcp will be much safer for me to use :p !!
 
"I can't remember these "holes" too well but it was insane in the head. Like I had no idea who I was or what was going on with my life and some other reality takes over... Completely strange although I kind of liked it the few or many times it happened to me."

The "hole" on this took me to an unformed plane of infinite possibilities and completely new sets of physics, spinning like a giant die, or wheel, giving me glimpses into unknown realities, until it finally landed back here in consensus reality. This only happened twice for me, in reckless combos with mdma and LSD and probably alcohol. Both times I was kind of disappointed that I came back here.
 
Totally agree Xorxoth, mixing 3meopcp with any type of lysergamides almost turns it into a completely different beast entirely. I have mixed it with 1p-LSD, ALD-52, and ETH-LAD, and every time I do it seems like the trip lasts so much longer for me. Usually I end up aborting the trip after twelve hours because I am ready to come down lol. I wonder why this is?

I haven't used it in about seven or eight months, and I intend to continue this break so that I can reset my tolerance and get my life in full working order. I just weighed out 7 mgs for my fiance because she is dealing with poppy seed withdrawal and is curious to see if the 3meopcp will help her with the lack of energy and temperature disregulation. I will report back to see if it helps her at all. I was somewhat hesitant, but she insisted that she believed it would help her.

The holes experienced on 3meo are certainly difficult to describe, but oddly enjoyable :) wow, I weighed out 7 mgs for my fiance and was shocked to compare that bump to some of the lines I was doing at the height of my usage! I don't even want to guesstimate...it was out of control to say the least.
 
A few years ago when I first started experimenting 3-MeO-PCP I went through about 250mg over the course of a week, the day I ran out I decided to take 1/4 of a 100mcg LSD blotter and it felt so divine I ended up taking the rest. It didn't seem to potentiate it visually, but it made the feeling much more relaxing and spiritual.
 
I got some bunk x (tested by Ecstasydata.org) containing primarily N-ethyl-pentylone. Is there any reason to suspect that cathinones could be a physically dangerous combination with 3-meo-pcp? And how far apart would I have to space out doses if so?
 
Does anybody have any insight on repeatedly using high doses of 3-meo-pcp and 3-ho-pcp?

I've holed on both plenty...

I don't know why I keep doing this amount of brain damage to myself...

Any insight would be greatly appreciated....

I often times come to the conclusion "I'm injecting neurotoxins at neurotoxic doses and holing wtf am I doing to my brain"... And flushing and then rebuying.... Over the years...

It's gotta fucking stop dude like why am I doing this to myself?

Not heroin, meth, opiates, benzos.... Because it's so cheap per dose?? I really regret ever discovering RC's and needles.... Like why didn't I follow the nootropric path 6 years ago I was on in college?
 
I am so glad I stopped taking 3-MEO PCP. Looking back on that period where I used it almost every day is strange. Like some kind of futuristic drunkard who is so intoxicated while remaining relatively functional that he manages to do enough mental gymnastics to convince himself that not only is this addiction not a big deal, it's actually giving him an edge on all the rest of humanity. I would totally do it again in one off experiences, but I like this compound far too much to trust myself with a little stash that I have control over. I'm gonna end up convincing myself I'm some kind of immortal demon who lives through the shells of many men, gaining more knowledge and power over many thousands of years. Again. Seriously the delusions I had made me feel powerful and were wildly entertaining/creative, but if I was a more impulsive or violent person at heart I could have perhaps done something REALLY dark in that head space. Kind of like how alcohol generally leads to violent crime, but not in all individuals, it just has the predisoposition to open up some of your inner darkness, much like many people experience with alcohol and meth.
 
FuckinAcidMan said:
I am so glad I stopped taking 3-MEO PCP. Looking back on that period where I used it almost every day is strange. Like some kind of futuristic drunkard who is so intoxicated while remaining relatively functional that he manages to do enough mental gymnastics to convince himself that not only is this addiction not a big deal, it's actually giving him an edge on all the rest of humanity. I would totally do it again in one off experiences, but I like this compound far too much to trust myself with a little stash that I have control over.
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That sums up my experience pretty well. The rest, not so much. But that first half is kind of insidious in a way.

I just got a new sample a couple days ago. It ticks off many of the basic checkboxes for 3-meo-pcp, but lacks the magic so far. Hard to explain.
 
Looking a few pages back, there was speculation about an impure synth with lots of PCC. I am curious if that could be what I got. Is there a way to test this at home? I don't have the cash to send a sample to a lab. Alternatively, is there an easy method to try to remove impurities from my sample?
 
Vediog said:
That sums up my experience pretty well. The rest, not so much. But that first half is kind of insidious in a way.

I just got a new sample a couple days ago. It ticks off many of the basic checkboxes for 3-meo-pcp, but lacks the magic so far. Hard to explain.
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I might also just be bannanas. I genuinely believed some completely insane shit when I was daily dosing 3-meo. Like being capable of mentally influencing physical objects, guiding the actions of others through telepathy and making contact with demons/satan/dark forces, believing firmly in black magic and the occult as ways to get what I want with no consequences etc.

Back on a more chemical note, this is one of the most moreish compounds I've ever found in a really non traditional sense. Like I wasn't just doing more like "more coke more candy etc" there was always a sophisticated, seemingly logical reason I was dosing each time. Even if it was actually a completely irrational, dumb, risky reason to use it in reality.
 
"this is one of the most moreish compounds I've ever found in a really non traditional sense. Like I wasn't just doing more like "more coke more candy etc" there was always a sophisticated, seemingly logical reason I was dosing each time. Even if it was actually a completely irrational, dumb, risky reason to use it in reality."

I completely identify with this. Like dosing some for the stimulant effect to drive home. Badbadnotgood. But it seemed reasonable at the time.


Pretty sure my current sample is just garbage, super impure. I should take it as a sign that I'm not supposed to have 3-meo-pcp right now.
 
I've been off this drug for 4 days now. My longest since January is 5 days. I still get itches for it all day. I just itched after typing that sentence and then got another one in my leg while writing this. However, I will add I haven't noticed any sort of hangover effect. I still have some visuals especially when I smoke weed. I'm going to do some more in 3 days. This drug really stays in your system for a while, but I'll appreciate it more with less tolerance. Is 7 days enough to clear tolerance out?
 
If you've been using it heavily for a while, you may have developed long-term tolerance. 7 days is enough for short-term tolerance to clear out but dissociates are famous for producing very long-lasting tolerance when abused, with some people saying they never return all the way to their original sensitivity. It can certainly take months in any case, but I'm not sure how much you were using.
 
The amount you've shared about using, woodyfence, it will take weeks to 1-2 months to lower tolerance. Dissociatives in general are bitches to reduce tolerance too once abused, and 3-meo-pcp especially considering how long it stays in your system. Way, way back someone was sharing how someone near to them tested positive for PCP weeks after last using 3-meo-pcp, something ridiculous like 2-4 weeks.
 
Day five and the visuals still persist. I started tripping a little harder during work today after I ate lunch. However, my headspace remains normal so it's not a bother. Best afterglow of any drug I've ever tried. The other longest afterglow I've ever had was a week straight with 2C-T-2 (compared to 2-3 days for LSD), and that was great too!
 
After a seven day break, I took a hit of abnormally high dosed LSD and 33 mg of 3-MEO-PCE. I came down a little after 6 hours, so I took 24 mg of 3-MEO-PCP. I came down again in about 4 hours or so, so I took about 65 mg of 3-MEO-PCP up my anus and had an experience very similar to a K-hole when I lay down in bed feeling overwhelmed. There were very intense open and closed eye visuals, and when I closed my eyes I could imagine anything I wanted in such beautiful detail. I thought I was a goner for a little bit during the comeup but overall the experience was fantastic.
 
What would you guys say is the main difference between: 3-MEO-PCP and 3-HO-PCP, 3-MEO-PCE, O-PCE are?

I am looking for something as euphoric, as energetic, with the same clear headed-ness & amazing creativity. Ideally as potent, with the small doses. But I have only tried 3-MEO-PCP.

I have previously had addiction issues, but read that LSD and other psychedelics can help cure addiction. Anyway my friend gave me a tab which I did not think would be that strong. It was the strongest trip I have ever had and after it my addiction is gone! It is so weird, the compulsion to redose just disappeared in one uncomfortable trip. Can't be more thankful!

So now I can have stuff in my room and not be compelled to have it all until it's done - phew!
 
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