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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover

My most manic experience to the date was with 5mg DOM + 15mg 3-MeO-PCP. Hours and hours of laughting to everybody and giving away dogmas I was the only one understanding. Crazy fun. DOx or 3-MeO-PCP could already be really manic on their own, but oh boy, in combination they made for one of the better drug rushes I went trough in my life.

I have got a lot of GBL arround, but I see it like if it was some medicine and only took it for knocking myself out for sleep if needed. Need to try the combo as well, seems interesting! ;)
 
This compound gives me a headache everytime on the comedown. MXE and k never do this to me even when used during the same time period.

its not a batch issue either, different vendors....always the same headache.

what the fuck. why cant there be mxe again
 
^Probably dehydration? I find myself drinking litres and litres of water when 3meoing.
 
I drink an electrolyte preparation several times a day, I find it hard to remember to drink water and I sweat a lot at night (anxious) so it feels useful. I don't tend to get headaches from 3meopcp. Maybe try bananas and electrolytes.

I also think these drugs do cause a bit of msucluar tension, or the holding of muscles in awkward positions. I try to stretch regularly when dissociated. It often feels really fucking nice too. :)
 
Okay, I wasn't too impressed by this stuff at first but now it's making its way into my favorites.

I think it is the ideal drug to use in combination with others. It brings out the best of anything I mix it with.
Last night I took 1 tab of LSD and ~10mg 3-MeO-PCP. I definitely felt psychedelic, but the 3-MeO brought a level of clarity that made it so much easier to talk to others and not get stuck in my head. Also I find the mania suits my personality amazingly as I am naturally introverted. It's a great confidence boost, and yet I don't feel like it makes me very prone to reckless decisions, as some might worry about when mania comes into play. It seems like a perfect balance.
 
Well, I got the GC/MS results back from the two batches of 3-MeO (the white fluffy trippy calm one, and the tan, hypomanic, stimulating one). Identical results, both indicated only 3-MeO-PCP was present. But two distinctly different effects as we've been discussing. Also they taste and smell different. The tan batch has this aura of cocaine taste to it, and it's the stimulating one, so I had been wondering if it was cut with something but looks like not.
 
Wow!

Thank you so much for submitting the samples, i can't tell you how grateful i am that you did this.
...where does this leave the discussion about different types?

I seem to be one of the few people that has only come across the "calm one" and not encountered the stimulating 3-meo-pcp !

The stuff i've got is white and fluffy, and has trippy and calm effects. In a way i'm thankful (because it's magic) - but i am very curious about the reportedly "stimulating" batch. It hasn't changed properties, for me - in the sense that it's never really given me mania, my responses to it have been consistent and the effects have not changed dramatically as tolerance was built, so i don't think it is tolerance, i still think it is batch-related.

Where does this result leave us? Can we say with confidence that neither sample has been adulterated or contaminated?

Great work, Xorkoth!
 
Yes I was told (as I don't understand how to read GC/MS results) that both samples showed only 3-MeO-PCP present, no contaminants.

I like the calm, trippy batch too. I'm glad I have both as they're both great but I use them for different things. If I want to get MXE-style trippy while still remaining functional and sociable, like for seeing a show or something, and actually get dissociated, I go for the fluffy white batch, and if I want to feel hypomanic and stimulated and use it for functional purposes like playing music or going for a hike or something, I'll use the other batch.

If it's placebo effect, I'll eat my own foot. For starters, I had the full expectation that when I first got the white fluffy batch, it would be identical in effects. I had gotten multiple batches before, and they were always the stimulating/hypomanic variety. I kept trying to convince myself it was placebo, but it's always the same. I've done more than enough drugs to be able to identify different effects that consistently appear over many uses of a drug. If I had done each batch a couple of times, I could easily chalk it up to just experiencing different aspects of the same drug due to set and setting, etc, but when something consistently always behaves a certain way over many, many uses...
 
Yeah, there is something going on with this stuff which i'm not qualified to speculate upon...but i know the stuff i've encountered is decidedly of the non-stimmy variety.

Fascinating...and kinda frustrating!
 
Yeah I wasn't sure which result I wanted more. Would have been cool if one was cut with a stimulating drug or something, would have been an easy answer. But I like the mystery, to me it reinforces that the mechanism of drugs and the effects they produce is more complex than we understand. We understand a lot but we don't have the whole picture. There is something that is making the two batches behave differently. Now we know for sure they are both in fact nothing but 3-MeO-PCP.
 
Xorkoth said:
There is something that is making the two batches behave differently. Now we know for sure they are both in fact nothing but 3-MeO-PCP.
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could be the salt that the makers formed. hydrochloride VS hydrobromide....or any other number of salts possible for pcp. Leading to different types of absorption or BA, I havn't looked into at all maybe I can browse the topic at some point.

GCMS analysis would likely not involve looking for the negative counter ion mass since they generally only look at positive ions. They probably only look for free PCP + H mass and fragments thereof, or they functionalize the amine then run it....neither of which would tell you what salt it is to begin with
 
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I used this stuff everyday for 3 and a bit weeks, about 60mg a day, it was blissful. I know it was silly and I absolutely recommend against it! I am now about 99% certain it's extremely bad for you and I am not going to touch the stuff for 4 weeks.


During the experience I was having intense euphoria for almost all the 3 weeks, Towards the end I had 5 days of total dissphoria. Really bad horrible time. Just wondering will the magic ever return? After a 4 week break? I think this stuff has the potential for huge positive impact on society if used with absolute caution and respect.


Please nobody every binge on this. I am generally really healthy, I look after myself in almost every aspect. If I stopped after 1 week it would have been perfect. I was in an incredible, life changing headspace. But i just felt so good I continued. Anyway now i am feeling worse than before it, lost many of the positives I gained. One good thing is I know I won't do this again.
 
Yeah this one isn't good to take for so long. I will do it for 5 days in a row sometimes, 5 days is about my upper limit. And I do 2mg bumps throughout the day, I find it's more workable and after a while you get some serious hypomania. Very useful and nice. But it makes you crazy after a while which is why I don't go over 5 days. Lately I haven't been doing it much.

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Thank you so much for your time and effort invested into this, Xorkoth <3
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Well we really have someone else to thank, who did it for me. :) I'll figure out a place to put the results so they can be viewed.
 
Interesting results xorkoth. I've had both types but mine were always white and fluffy, I've never seen tan 3-meo-pcp.
 
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