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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-HO-PCP Thread

Trying to abuse this as a stimulant replacement. At 1-2mg insufflated it at least does not work contraindicated, as far as I can tell. 8( Have to be really careful with the dose, though ... and avoid redosing.
 
It is definitely effective as a stimulant but only at very low (micro) doses. I had 2mg and ~2mg at T+4h (and I got low to moderate tolerance). The doses were too high and now I cannot sleep at T+14h. Also the effects were too recreational as in manic (urge to socialize and then I could not stop talking ... really annoying) and shortly after each redose you got those opioid-like (it rather feels like paracetamol) effects, that I try to avoid.

Next trial will be 0.5mg and 0.5mg at T+5h. This is so much more potent than 3-Meo-PCP (for me) ...
 
So nobody experiments with this ? I will wait with the next reply until the count hits 120. Promised. (?)

By the way : Even at 0.5-1mg doses it is not really suitable as a functional stimulant in a (purely) mentally demanding setting. Next trials will be initiated for creative embellishments only.
 
I should have some 3-HO-PCP coming in next week. Haven't played with any dissociatives aside from DXM in a long time. O-PCE accompanied me through most of 2016 and the beginning of 2017. I'll post my thoughts here. Maybe write a full experience report too. I tend to start big then use dissociatives daily or almost daily in small doses until they're gone, but I'm kind of doing this to reset me after quitting alcohol tobacco and cannabis, so I'll likely be taking a more modest approach to focus on self-control and spirituality. Will update soon

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My trials with the grey batch were much like drug addiction BUT I have been left with a much better mood! I was dosing and redosing in a way where I accidentally holed more than once. The day before I ran out I actually dosed, redosed, and perhaps a little more before I had an event scheduled with some people. I had to stay home for about an hour until my semi hole dispersed.

Anyways aside from the initial intoxication, the after effects are something to write home about. I would be "hypomanic" for up to 6 hours. Zero anxiety, lots of confidence, happiness, interest and motivation.

The negative effects were mostly cognitive impairment; trouble spelling and remembering things. I actually feel a little dumber since I started my 3-ho experimenting BUT much happier.

I did things I wouldn't normally have done, was more social, ate better, developed further with my relationships. I was pretty depressed before so I'm happy where I am now just a little unhappy about the memory loss and trouble spelling.

I was dosing almost everyday often times multiple times a day. Started small and tolerance developed quickly. When I would wait a few days to dose, my tolerance was higher than if I dosed two or more days in a row.

My experiences with 3-pce and 3-pcp were daily abuse as well but much more side effects and unhappiness in the end.

I honestly don't want to touch a disso again even though I love them. I feel like they are garbage for the brain. I'm much more interested in psychedelic trips and microdosing. The microdosing of 1p improved my life significantly a couple years ago.
 
I have tried white and grey/purplish 3-ho-pcp.


The white was top 3 drugs I've done, the grey was dirty and kind of shit overall (won't be repeating buy from that place>)
 
As an absolute MXE worshipper in the past, I was sent into a real spin when it disappeared. I had stocks but they gradually dwindled... I tried a couple of the analogues like 3-meo-pce, 3-meo-pcp and 0-PCE and didn't get along with any of them. Far too much mania which ended up with incidents including me having a massive argument with my dad (bearing in mind I'm approaching middle age), scaring my wife after becoming unresponsive... not like my beloved MXE which I could take regularly but easily keep my life together.

I finally got the chance to try 3-ho-pcp last week. Wow - I am seriously impressed. I have finally found something that can at least partially fill the huge void left by MXE! The best way to describe it is MXE-lite - I get the zen feeling of contentment, but the headspace is clearer, you can interact with normal people without seeming too intoxicated - and it wears off quicker, leaving you at baseline with fewer after effects than MXE. Some would argue that less afterglow is a bad thing, but for me it's good as it lets you get on with your life. Combines lovely with weed just like MXE - great to for socialising, watching movies and gaming.

I have yet to try higher doses and have not been anywhere near hole territory yet, so haven't got anything spiritually or mentally profound out of it. But I'm not really in the market for that - I'm just looking for a stress-relieving distraction that's easy on the body and mind, and this fits the bill perfectly.

So if you're looking for a more out-there experience with visuals etc, this may not be for you. But it seems to fit me perfectly and has definitely lifted the "MXE-ban-cloud" that was hanging over my head!

Enjoy and stay safe guys! Thanks for all your input on these chemicals - it's a great help when navigating these unchartered waters...
 
Ziiirp said:
So nobody experiments with this ? I will wait with the next reply until the count hits 120. Promised. (?)

By the way : Even at 0.5-1mg doses it is not really suitable as a functional stimulant in a (purely) mentally demanding setting. Next trials will be initiated for creative embellishments only.
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did you ever use 3 meo pcp as a functional stimulant? How does 3 ho pcp compare?
 
Anyone out there still enjoying 3-HO-PCP? As usual I'm late to the party, but I finally have some and I'm about to try it now! I have a moderate dissociative tolerate from weekly use, so I'm going to weigh out 8mg, split that into four bumps, then titrate up 2mg at a time (intranasal). It worked great when I first tried O-PCE, so it should work fine here (but I'm suspecting that 8mg of this will be slightly stronger in effect that 8mg of O-PCE).

Should be loads of fun! Wish me luck ladies and gents, hope you all are having a fantastic day!
 
That was fucking amazing, beautiful dissociative bliss. So euphoric and warm and fuzzy. I'm going to lay down and listen to dubstep until I fall asleep. Total dose was ~12mg intranasal.

I'm not 100% sure yet, but I think I prefer this over O-PCE. I will need to do more research to find out, and I really should take a break because my tolerance is getting higher and higher. Have a good night fellow disso heads :)
 
Has anyone come across a weak batch of 3-ho-pcp? I don't want to source, but can indicate what country it came from if allowed. It is white, very crystally and ketamine-like in appearance, although a lot easier on the nose. I can take 25mg of regular 3-ho-pcp for a nice hit, but with this batch I can snort 100mg and not feel much - can go up to 400mg before feeling mildly chilled and dissociated. Anyone come across this?
 
Disco Doctor said:
Has anyone come across a weak batch of 3-ho-pcp? I don't want to source, but can indicate what country it came from if allowed. It is white, very crystally and ketamine-like in appearance, although a lot easier on the nose. I can take 25mg of regular 3-ho-pcp for a nice hit, but with this batch I can snort 100mg and not feel much - can go up to 400mg before feeling mildly chilled and dissociated. Anyone come across this?
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Quite a bad idea to be snorting increasing doses of unidentified powders !
 
I'm also surprised there isn't a bit more chatter regarding this one. I've tried 3-MeO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCE, and now this one and I find it to be the absolute best of the three. It's easily the most euphoric and closest in effects to MXE. The only downside is its long legs (similar to the aforementioned two compounds) and it kept me from sleeping for a good long while (12+ hours).
 
a very complex question. not by definition, yet possibly very much so, like alcohol.

Qihkal said:
Do you guys feel like Dissos are actually neurotoxic?
What about using 3-ho-pcp often?

IMO there are negative after effects, a hangover, depression, lowered mood. Feeling guilty of using the substance.

But the intoxication is so good...

Perhaps psychedelics would be healthier for the brain(clearly).

Are Dissos damaging to the brain? We have no evidence I know, only anecdotes based on what we feel. I suppose using drugs to feel better and get things done can aid ones life in the short term, showing us a side of us that we can actually attain naturally by just trying...

I love and hate Dissos!
I feel like they help so much but I worry about the negative effects. I eat extremely healthy, and Dissos help me with motivation....

But in the end, is it having a negative impact on my brain?

I would almost compare it to meth use(far from meth I know). But I find Dissos to be highly functional and comfortable, helping me get further in life(no depression/anxiety/increased motivation).

How damaging is it really in your experience?

Why is there so little discussion of 3-ho-pcp?

I love reading insights from others!!
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ok so the way most careful, conscientious partakers do things dissos are more likely to heal any brain injury and regenerate nerve tissue without causing any harm whatsoever in fact healing curing reviving dead nerve cells. But at least with ketamine and probably others (though MXE doesn't seem to apply here but maybe when dosed repetitively or in excessive quantities over and over again such that the brain is inundated excitotoxicity can occur. based on a meta-analysis of Pubmed articles I made a few years ago, MDMA, LSD and other psychedelics and I believe SSRI's and possibly other medicines prevent ketamine neurotoxicity. (any help finding those links appreciated) so must be careful with the dissos... MXE seems to be "soft" not as caustic and biting more like pastry cream than alcohol it feels like one could not cause any physical harm to tissues really with it don't test that just how it seems studies will tell... wonder if o-pce seeing as it has the ethyl group would be more toxic not that anyone would or could ever ingest enough for any severe toxicity but who knows time will tell follow K&B principles all should be well... wonder what Dr. K would say in His "o-pce primer?"
 
mntkndns said:
ok so the way most careful, conscientious partakers do things dissos are more likely to heal any brain injury and regenerate nerve tissue without causing any harm whatsoever in fact healing curing reviving dead nerve cells. But at least with ketamine and probably others (though MXE doesn't seem to apply here but maybe when dosed repetitively or in excessive quantities over and over again such that the brain is inundated excitotoxicity can occur. based on a meta-analysis of Pubmed articles I made a few years ago, MDMA, LSD and other psychedelics and I believe SSRI's and possibly other medicines prevent ketamine neurotoxicity. (any help finding those links appreciated) so must be careful with the dissos... MXE seems to be "soft" not as caustic and biting more like pastry cream than alcohol it feels like one could not cause any physical harm to tissues really with it don't test that just how it seems studies will tell... wonder if o-pce seeing as it has the ethyl group would be more toxic not that anyone would or could ever ingest enough for any severe toxicity but who knows time will tell follow K&B principles all should be well... wonder what Dr. K would say in His "o-pce primer?"
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Lolol, what?
 
mw.stoner said:
I'm also surprised there isn't a bit more chatter regarding this one. I've tried 3-MeO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCE, and now this one and I find it to be the absolute best of the three. It's easily the most euphoric and closest in effects to MXE. The only downside is its long legs (similar to the aforementioned two compounds) and it kept me from sleeping for a good long while (12+ hours).
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Have you tried 2-oxo-PCE (deschloro-N-ethyl-Ketamine) yet? Maybe it's just the batches I have, but O-PCE seems to be much more euphoric than 3-HO-PCP.

I haven't tried MXE, but based on what other people are saying O-PCE is similar in effects to MXE.
 
O-PCE is close in many ways 3-MeO-PCP isn't, and, it's not very similar. Much more speedy and manic IME. No magic like MXE, though you can go pretty deep during holes.
 
I really like 3-ho-pcp. It's especially good during movies like dxm. It makes music immediately sound amazing especially grinding drum and bass.
The opiate analgesia is stronger than what I've read on here. I dosed it while two days off of my daily dose of 115mg methadone and it got me off sick.. And when taking it on methadone I actually caught a nod several times which is very difficult to achieve when on methadone.
All and all the only complaint is when I took a little too much a couple times and had that bad trip feeling that some people may relate to a third plateau dxm. Kind of like that feeling of imminent death while not being exactly sure why.. I just got the vibe I was definitely dying. It happened a couple of times. Thank God for my girlfriend trip sitting me she actually did something really smart and rubbed noopept under my tongue. She never took pcp and I never told her I was tripping out.
I almost instantly felt normal and I asked her in awe why did you do that?
She said you feel better don't you? You looked like you were afraid you were dying or something.
And I was like ya but how'd you? Why's? How'd you do this?
SHE was like isn't 3hopcp an nmda antagonist?
YA.
Well noopept is an nmda agonist.
I was in fucking shock. My girlfriend was a hero to me in that moment. I would have never known she knew a damn thing about nmda.
I was like but how.. Studder Studder
She said just doing my job as a trip sitter now shut up and have a beer.
I did both.
 
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