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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread

Chemical Wizard said:
I did 24 mgs last time and I experienced nausea for about 2.5 hours of the come up, but i never did puke. It usually takes me around 3.5 hours give or take to peak on 2C-T-7.
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Too true! Pretty much the same as my experience.

Coolio said:
That's one great thing about injecting
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IV/IM'ing T7? Geez :| Never heard of anyone doing it but I wouldn't think it would be too much fun (or healthy for that matter!) - too intense?
 
What could possibly be unhealthy about injecting 2C-T-7? Peripheral vasoconstriction? I don't think it's a very potent vasoconstrictor...

It certainly doesn't cause any cardiac issues in me either...

If the pharmacology of every other studied phenethylamine is any indication, 2C-T-7 is as likely to be as non-toxic as mescaline at normal recreational doses... I think mescaline will kill most people if they were to overdose on 4000mg or whatever, which is probably equivalent to what the people overdosing on 2C-T-7 took.

How could you possibly think IV 2C-T-7 would be too intense? What do you think of things like IM ketamine, or vaporized N,N-DMT? Those are FAR more intense experiences than 2C-T-7.
 
Coolio said:
How could you possibly think IV 2C-T-7 would be too intense? What do you think of things like IM ketamine, or vaporized N,N-DMT? Those are FAR more intense experiences than 2C-T-7.
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Don't get me wrong, my comment wasn't based on any pharma-knowledge :) I was just going on my experiences with this drug and the fact that when injecting the bio-availability is much higher.

Plus the fact that I don't inject anything, I would think it would be too intense (for the average person). But I guess, different people react differently - and when adding different methods of.
 
Faster onset leads to better effects profile with less side effects with 2C-T-7, as long as you don't overdose. The best body high, least nausea, most euphoria comes from IV, followed by vaporization, plugging, and then insufflation.

For IV you wanna start with 3mg or 5mg...
 
Can you vaporize the HCL salt effectively? What would be a good vaporized dose? I am not looking for an intense experience, but something that would show me the full effects of t7
 
This weekend I'm going to have my second experience with T7. The first time I tried this substance was at 20mg. After 3.5 hours I was disappointed and took 6mg. I really noticed no increase in visuals or euphoria so I finished out the trip. Now for this trip, I'm wondering if I should take 25-2mg or take straight 30mg. I wanna see what T7 can really do.
 
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Psychonautical said:
I have read lots and lots of things that this chemical can be smoked...

is there anyone out there who could perhaps describe their experience with smoked 2c-t-7?
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I used a light-bulb to vaporize it. It was my 1st time with 2C-T-7 and yes I did get some effect but it was weak and a waste. Every other method I have tryed is far superior. Oral and IV are equal, oral being much safer and has a longer duration, IV is well... hard to describe but it will blow your mind or kill you. Insulflation works but is far inferior to oral or IV because it hurts like hell, is far less safe than oral and not anywhere near as impressive as IV.
 
Speaking from my own personal experience, snorting 2C-T-7 may bring on the effects much more quickly and intensely, but I also suffer more of the negative effects like uncomfortable body load, nausea, tachycardia and panic/anxiety. When I eat it, the effects come on gradually but they are much more pleasurable with less of the negative effects.

I've consumed a couple grams of this substance over the years so I've got quite a bit of experience with it. Most of the people who have done it with me also prefer to eat it as opposed to snorting it.

I haven't IV'd, but I've read reports from experienced psychonauts that it was pretty intense and not recommended for the faint of heart. I've also seen one person snort an insanely large amount and report that she felt NOTHING at all whilst the rest of us were tripping balls! This substance is one that I recommend people approach with the greatest caution. Start with very small doses and work your way up taking the safest route of administration before you proceed with any heroic attempts at intense experiences.

Just my $.02 for those who are relatively new with T7.


Coolio said:
Faster onset leads to better effects profile with less side effects with 2C-T-7, as long as you don't overdose. The best body high, least nausea, most euphoria comes from IV, followed by vaporization, plugging, and then insufflation.

For IV you wanna start with 3mg or 5mg...
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Yesterday I consumed 30 mgs of 2C-T-7 in two 15 mgs piles, 30 minutes apart. I dosed at 7:00 and 7:30. I experienced very little nausea, but I did experience some. I didn't eat until about 11:30 or 12:00, at which point I noticed that I didn't haven't nausea, but I was still slightly unsettled in the stomach area when I ate. Overall, I would say I was actually quite underwhelmed by this experience. I did it alone and inside on a rainy day, and I just don't think it provided enough stimulus for the 2C-T-7 to do anything with. It reminded of when Shulgin speaks of the beth state in pihkal at times. I didn't notice any particular euphoria, the visuals were almost non existent. There was some introspection, but was it any more than there would be normally if you were sitting around all day ? There was no increase in my ability to play guitar. I did notice a significant body load, and I consumed lots of water and tea, but didn't urinate that much. My body was up to a +++, but mind, i would say ++, maybe even a +1.5. So far 2C-T-7 is the most variable in effects of all the 2C's I have done, which is 2C-I, 2C-E, 2C-C, 2C-T-2. I think 30 mgs is still a little bit on the light side of the dose chart for me. I have done less and experienced more effect than this, but I still feel like I have to push for 35+ mgs in order to have a full on trip on 2C-T-7. Maybe I will try plugging next time.
 
^ LOL. I'm glad to see you are truly getting messages of equality and tolerance for mankind from your experiences with psychedelic drugs. ;) <3

I'm going to throw in an edit here... the post I was referring to was deleted... so now I just look like an idiot.

Agreed Xorkoth.
 
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Consider this your warning for abusive behavior, suckerbunny.

You'll find a lot more positivity in your life if you send it out to others. It gets mirrored back to you. Give it a try. ;)

2C-T-7's dose-response curve varies dramatically between people. Some people need very high doses while others need very low ones. One user from PD's earlier years reported needing at least 50mg for a real experience, and 75mg was his ideal strong experience. For most, 75mg would be lethal, or close to it. For some, 10mg produces a powerful state. Everyone is affected differently by every drug, but 2C-T-7 seems especially variable.
 
Lol, I hope there's some sarcasm in there bunnie. internetz is so hard to read
 
I had a dose of 25-30mg of 2ct7 last friday and i can honestly say it was the best trip experience ive ever had. Once id been sick a few times and emptied my stomach (and the tolilet turned inot a kaliescope) it was excellent. I know im going to be sick now on 2cs so its not much of a bother. Once it i had comeup fully after about 2 hours all i could see were amazing detailed, colourful, sparkly visuals and this lasted a good 3 hours. I certainly was glad i was home and not out in public! My head was fairly clear the whole time and once it levelled out i felt extreme euphroria not kept saying to myself 'this is better than any trip/pill ive ever had'. I cant really compare to 2ce as only had a low doses but i found the visuals of e more bold and colourful. Had no comedown and great afterglow. Brilliant. Considering plugging, is gel caps fine and do u get any bowel problems?? i really recommend this drug :)
 
I think that the no "what did I take?"-thread rule of bluelight makes perfect sense, because different people react very differently to different drugs, so no one can really answer that question. and that's why I wonder why this rule isn't inforced in this case, and there are discussions about 2C-B vs. 2C-I in the 2C-T-7 thread.
 
Does anyone get a comedown from 2c-t-7? I have taken it 3 times and every time the day after I feel very emotionally flat and have just a generally down feeling.

2c-t-7 gives me incredible blissful euphoria, maybe it has something to do with that? Does anybody know if it releases a significant amount of serotonin?

btw I am taking doses at around 30mg
 
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