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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread

uniter said:
Umm, the fact that they are both 5-HT2a agonists means there would indeed most likely be cross tolerance. Just like other 5-HT2a psychedelics it'll be gone by a few days to a week.
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The key word there was "noticeable". Of course there will be some some tolerance. Unless you've been binging on LSD for a week, you should be able to trip on LSD one day and trip fine on T7 the next. At least that's true in my experience. YMMV and all of that.

And I don't want to be confrontational, but did that "Umm" really add anything to your post besides imply that I'm a retard? If you disagree or think you know more about something than me, please just correct me and leave it at that. I know I'm not perfect; I make mistakes sometimes just like everybody else.
 
Transcendence said:
The key word there was "noticeable". Of course there will be some some tolerance. Unless you've been binging on LSD for a week, you should be able to trip on LSD one day and trip fine on T7 the next. At least that's true in my experience. YMMV and all of that.

And I don't want to be confrontational, but did that "Umm" really add anything to your post besides imply that I'm a retard? If you disagree or think you know more about something than me, please just correct me and leave it at that. I know I'm not perfect; I make mistakes sometimes just like everybody else.
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That "Umm" was basically me just thinking out loud; and I guess I did accidentally read it as "any cross tolerance". :)

I still think it would be noticeable; many people report greatly diminished effects of 5-HT2a agonists 2 days in a row.

Somewhat recently I took 2 grams of mushrooms one day and took 2 hits (~200ug) of LSD the second day. The LSD trip was much milder than it normally was. It was still a nice trip but it felt more like 1 hit.

A week after that I took 2 of those same hits and was tripping very hard like 2 of those hits would normally have me trip.

My opinion still stands that there is going to be noticeable cross tolerance between 2C-T-7 and LSD. If you don't get that noticeable cross tolerance Transcendence; I guess you're one of the lucky ones. :)
 
I personally don't find there to be a whole lot of cross tolerance between 2C's and tryptamines like mushrooms and LSD when one's taken the day after the other, although there's certainly some. Then again, I find 2C's take a little while to produce any tolerances of their own, too. Myself and two others once took LSD the day after 2C-T-7 without really any noticeable cross tolerance, and once I took LSD a day after 2C-I, and again, without any real cross tolerance to speak of, although it was a mild LSD trip so it's hard to say. There's a definite cross tolerance between LSD and mushrooms, but I think tryptamines and phenethylamines are generally much slighter.
 
Tried T7 the other day, very wonderful substance. Many participants commented on the ability to follow conversations on multiple "levels" of thought at once. From basic facts to large philosophical concepts.

At night, visuals were similar to 2C-E with more rainbow lasers :D
 
Tried t7 last night, 20mgs. After 3 hours I was feeling extremely euphoric but had barley any visuals at all so I took another 6-7mgs and still had very minimal visuals, so I took 10mg 2C-E. The experience was very intense, almost overwhelming. The visuals from the 10mg 2C-E plus the 26-27 of t7 gave me visuals much more intense than 25mgs 2C-E. Looking forward to trying this substance again at a 30mg dose.
 
Mace2124 said:
Tried t7 last night, 20mgs. After 3 hours I was feeling extremely euphoric but had barley any visuals at all ....
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I find that really interesting. A lot of reports speak about euphoria but when I tried it (~27mg I think it was) I didn't get any euphoria but decent (akin to a low/mid dose of acid) visuals.

Funny how drugs affect people differently. :)
 
25mg didn't give me euphoria or visuals.

~35mg made me pretty much watch the world dissolve with intense OEV and CEV with amazing euphoria.
 
Best trip I had was off 50 mgs orally , had some discomfort on the come up , I puked maybe twice

But after that it was awesome , very nice visuals and euphoria

I'd say I took it at 12 in the afternoon and at 9 I was still going strong when I snorted 20 mg of 2c-e

Very fun trip I was starring at the stars for hours that night , memorized =D
 
are high oral doses of t7 dangerous in terms of causing deliriums? like those if snorted?
 
Ive seen people get really delirious from it , but that was always when they snorted it

I'm sure if you took a large enough dose it would happen , I was fine though
 
Just dropping in to share that an acquaintance of mine dosed 40mg on one occasion, and 60mg another. Both times he got "alerts" and the second time he threw up. All he got were minute trails, and a bit of stimulation. Of course I can't tell ya any mental effects he got because he hardly recognizes those as effects of psychedelics :|.

2C-E, 2C-B, 2C-I, and 2C-T-2 all work fine for him.
 
my most intense trip with 2C-T-7 doesn't really follow the "responsible dosing" guidelines. I was transferring my 2C-T-7 from the baggie to some vials, and every time there was a bit of 2C-T-7 on the scale, or if some fell on the table, I would eat it up. So I did x amount of T7 like that, then I ate a 25 mg gelcap, and then once the bag was empty, I sliced it open, put it into a cup of water, and stirred it up with a spoon. So i'm not sure how much 2C-T-7 was stuck to the inside of the baggie, but based on the trip that ensued, I'm guessing a lot. I got the visual soup, almost puked, and had a super duper intense tingly groin full body buzz. Super euphoric. I was getting audio flanging, and I was starting to get the "psychedelic dissociated delerious nod off". It was a very strong experience, but that's the trip that made me fall in love with 2C-T-7. This psychedleic is very complex, there is a lot going on with it, mentally, physically, and even spiritually. This stuff really has amazing potential for helping people heal personal issues, and I think it would be super amazing couples-therapy material. Super valuable, but I wouldn't put it in the "take this if you just want fun trippy times" category. I mean, it makes me very giggly and happy and I love being around people....but this one deserves every bit of respect you got.

I think my favorite dose will be in the 30-40 mg area. I have done it at 23 before and I got some very light visuals, some fairly pronounced euphoria, and a headache the day after :( Still one of my favorites.
 
I have read lots and lots of things that this chemical can be smoked...

is there anyone out there who could perhaps describe their experience with smoked 2c-t-7?
 
Does anybody else find the nausea from t7 to be too much? I don't mind nausea if it is rectified in the end with some satisfying vomiting. But the times I tried t7 I was very nauseous for 3 hours and then it just went away. Feeling that bad and not being able to throw up easily is not something I enjoy.

Is it recommended to take t7 on an empty stomach or full?
 
i almost always take psychedelics on a fast but i'm worried about this one as i've heard story upon story of excruciating dry heaving. that shit really rocks my chest hard and i end up feeling it for days on end. i'm not sure how i would prepare myself for a t-7 experience...
 
I've taken up to 26mg of 2C-T-7 and only had a mild rotten egg taste persisting in my mouth for the first couple of hours. No nausea at all. Granted, I hadn't eaten for 3 hours before the trip.
 
I did 24 mgs last time and I experienced nausea for about 2.5 hours of the come up, but i never did puke. It usually takes me around 3.5 hours give or take to peak on 2C-T-7. My stomach remains sensitive for a while, I find this material is very intense on the body in every way...stomach, muscles, headache, dehydrating and makes you piss alot. I still think it's worth it though, it's really not that bad if you prepare for it. If you fast a bit before taking it, stretch or do yoga when you experience muscle tension, and drink a lot of water during your trip, it's not so bad. 2C-T-7 is a really intense material though for sure. I really like 2C-T-7 for its intensity, and it's wide spectrum of effects. It's like a psychedelic and an empathogen all in one.
 
I guess I was just hoping that with t7 that it would make me puke like with AMT. Instead it just gives me nausea with no relief other than waiting it out. I really did like it once I peaked though. Maybe smoking pot on the comeup will help...
 
That's one great thing about injecting, snorting, or plugging 2C-T-7. You'll projectile vomit or shit yourself pretty quickly, and the nausea will go away after that.
 
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