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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread

I have read some trip reports on erowid about people smoking 2C-T-7, isn't that dangerous/harmful to lungs more so than any other route?
 
Id say so, smoking is usually the most harmful route. IV'ing is even safer depending on substance(maybe not for RC's) and how responsible the user is.
 
Anyone else feel like their arms are being stretched out from this compound? My arms and my neck in particular. Not that pleasant, but not unbearable by any means.

All in all, wonderful compound. I've had some very clear headed trips and soem very intense trips on this substance. Also a couple very frightening ones..

For the record. ..

25mg I feel nothing. I hover around 35 mg now, and it's quite intense. 30mg I barely feel anything. Weird how this works... I can't find a middle ground.
 
fastandbulbous said:
Just keep in mind that at an active dose, it gives a plasma concentration that produces a significant degree of MAO inhibition, so certain drugs are best avoided in combination with 2C-T-7 (MDMA instantly springs to mind)
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Would 2C-T-7 work then with oral administration of DMT?
 
Erebus- said:
Would 2C-T-7 work then with oral administration of DMT?
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This would be an interesting experiment -- it's very possible. I would try that with this and 2c-t-2. Since DMT is traditionally used with an MAOI, it's probably on the safer side.
 
nuke said:
This would be an interesting experiment -- it's very possible. I would try that with this and 2c-t-2. Since DMT is traditionally used with an MAOI, it's probably on the safer side.
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Is the length of an ayahuasca experience determined by the MAO inhibition? If this enzyme is held at bay for such a length like that of 2C-T-2/7 would cause, could any adverse effects arise from extended exposure to DMT? Being on DMT and 2C-T-7 for upwards of 8 hours would be otherworldly.
 
Wait. I thought this has already been answered here... in this very thread, possibly even.

I thought it was determined 2c-t-7 does not provide enough mao inhibition at normal dosages to be able to activate oral DMT. It would require more 2ct7 than anyone would ever want to take. Perhaps I'm thinking of something else...
 
pedaltopedal said:
Wait. I thought this has already been answered here... in this very thread, possibly even.

I thought it was determined 2c-t-7 does not provide enough mao inhibition at normal dosages to be able to activate oral DMT. It would require more 2ct7 than anyone would ever want to take. Perhaps I'm thinking of something else...
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Fair enough. But if it has MAO inhibition properties, will it potentiate smoked DMT? Or is it the same story? I find that hard to believe when combing MDMA with T-7 is considered to be so dangerous.
 
I wasn't saying one way or another whether it works or not, I just faintly remember reading some speculation that it wouldn't. It's definitely worth some experimentation though! I'd give it a go myself, but I don't have any dmt at the moment.
 
Erebus- said:
Fair enough. But if it has MAO inhibition properties, will it potentiate smoked DMT? Or is it the same story? I find that hard to believe when combing MDMA with T-7 is considered to be so dangerous.
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Smoked DMT gets in your blood stream so quickly that whatever MAOI properties 2C-T-7 has aren't likely to make a noticeable difference in intensity. 2C-T-7's psychedelic properties will make a difference in intensity and quality, no doubt, and the smoked DMT may last slightly longer if MAO is busy with 2C-T-7, though.
 
Has anyone tried taking 2C-T-7 at the very end of MDMA, like the 5 hour point or so? It'd be nice if I could get the MDMA to lead into a 2C-T-7 trip, but it does take quite a while to come up fully, too. Any thoughts?
 
immad said:
I wouldn't risk slightly overlapping 2c-t-7 with MDMA: here is why.
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No, I meant taking the 2C-T-7 after the MDMA was worn off, not mixing them. I'm pretty sure I read in PIHKAL that there were several psychotherapy sessions in which they tried 2C-T-7, 2C-T-2, 2C-B, and I'm not sure what else at the end of an MDMA session as a way to help them integrate it. I'm not necessarily looking for that, but I do think MDMA could be a nice sort of lead in to a 2C-T-7 experience (it's an idea for a rave I'll be attending). I know it's an MAOI, but wouldn't it be fine after the MDMA's worn off? I guess MDMA does have a fairly long half-life too, though (6-10 hours according to Wikipedia) so that might be an issue.
 
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Tried snorting 2ct7 for the first time the other week.
Wow, was I not ready for the pain, had around 10mg.

Also tried 30-35mg oral, and all I can say is wow.
Amazing. Just amazing.
Trying to say anything else to sum it up would just ruin it.
 
Anyone find any difference between hot-t-7 and 2-c-t-7?
what everyone's fav route to take T-7?
 
Snorted or IV.

Vaporizing it makes my lungs feel like I shoved a plastic bag in them and inflated it, even after smoking just a few milligrams.

I tried it once orally at a really high dose and felt nothing.

I would consider plugging it whenever I get around to doing it again.
 
Fungahhh said:
Has anyone tried taking 2C-T-7 at the very end of MDMA, like the 5 hour point or so? It'd be nice if I could get the MDMA to lead into a 2C-T-7 trip, but it does take quite a while to come up fully, too. Any thoughts?
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I have. It was rather wonderfully nice, but very, very intense. I did it twice...with 30mg (way off the chart intense) and 10mg (just the right dosage.) I felt no side effects or any sense of danger.

And yes, it takes 3hr for T7 to peak but the effects begin within 45min.
 
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