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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread

Rectal dosing lowers duration for sure... although the peak is not shorted by a lot in my experience. Mostly it's the come-up and come-down/aftereffects that are shorted the most. For example, orally, T-7 takes a good 3 hours to really get strongly going... it's a long one. Rectally though it starts working strongly much faster... in a half hour you'll be tripping good and strong. So that's 2.5 hours cut off right there, but it's not from the main effects.
 
Xorkoth: I've experimented with 2C-series drugs rectally a fair amount and my observations match yours quite a bit. I found it very fascinating that the duration of the peak wasn't shortened by any noticeable amount. Any other ROA that hits faster usually shortens the peak as well, but for whatever reason it's not the case with rectal.

Anyway, it's certainly the longest-lasting 2C I've tried. I'd have to agree with the 12 hour figure. Nothing can match its visuals either; not necessarily in quantity but in quality. The geometric kaleidoscoping I experience from 2C-T-7 and, to a lesser extent, 2C-T-2 is just beautiful.
 
2C-T-7 and Love. Need your advice!

Hello, all. I've only posted here once before, concerning dropping Ecstasy weekly. It was an informative move, and I appreciate your inputs greatly. However, I'm pursuing other topics of self-exploration, now.. and would greatly value your input. Thanks in advance.

Now, I've been reading Thanatos to Eros, and my interest has been given a true prod - enough to act upon it. A bit earlier, reading the DMT Dandy and "What is your favorite psychadelic?" threads got my interested in the two chemicals as a possible first choice over LSD, in case I am unable to procure any soon. However, I'm intensely interested in the loved-up, empathic, euphoria that MDMA instills in it's users.. I have a very close group of friends who I roll with every Saturday. Very calm, mature people, some of whom I can genuinely say I love as friends.

Love.

I read up on 2C-T-7, and while I understand that you should avoid insufflation and should keep your doses small and well-measured... I hear that it has the same extreme "love, euphoria" that comes with MDMA. Except that it also has extremely beautiful visuals.

I can handle the nausea; in fact, I recently popped two XBOX pills at once, due to how long it took to hit me (me and my friend figured we needed a second, due to never having had E hit us so late) and I ended up vomiting heavily due to excessive body-load. I actually was unable to move (90% paralysis) for about 5 minutes. I could hardly talk, due to my tongue being numb, in fact! However, I've recently stopped worrying about vomiting, and stuff of that nature - I realize that it is a part of the process, is natural, and have accepted it - when I did that, I actually had -fun- vomiting. Imagine that? I felt so "interested" with the whole paralysis experience, I just sat there mumbling "wow..." over and over. Intense.

I'm honestly ready to venture into the OEV realm, but I'd love to share the experience with that MDMA-love we all know.

Is 2C-T-7 what I'm looking for?
 
Merged in a question about 2C-T-7.

All psychedelics affect everyone differently, so there are no guarantees that any of them will produce that kind of euphoria in you. That being said, 2C-T-7 does tend to be a euphoric chemical that can facilitate increased love. But please be aware that it is a full-on psychedelic and it is possible that it will become very mentally and physically intense... your post makes it unclear as to whether you've tripped on anything other than MDMA. 2C-T-7 will not be like MDMA. It may share some characteristics, but that will be on the surface. It is more than just visuals on top of MDMA euphoria, and if you go into it expecting that, you may end up being disappointed and/or afraid.

If you are looking for something psychedelic, however, it's a great chemical. Just be aware that it's not going to be a substitute for MDMA. :)
 
butane said:
Nothing can match its visuals either; not necessarily in quantity but in quality. The geometric kaleidoscoping I experience from 2C-T-7 and, to a lesser extent, 2C-T-2 is just beautiful.
Yes! The visuals on 2CT7 I have to admit were the most beautiful I have ever seen, though they were a lot less than a tryptamine of course. They were like little beautiful crystal jewels hanging in the air rotating and circling around me. It was like there were a few 'things' in the air around me and not visuals in my head, very amazing.

Butane, if you get a chance I HIGHLY recommend combining DMT with 2CT7, it adds an amazing dimension to the visuals that really cannot be explained with words.

peace,
S)S
 
I've always thought that if (when more rather) I was going to combine a phenethylamine with a tryptamine, it would probably be 2C-T-7. Thanks for the idea samadhi!
 
anyone tried rectal dosing? how smaller a dose do u need and does it take the nausea away?
 
Rectal is A-OK. I'd start with one third to one half of an oral dose. As for the nausea, I think that's part and parcel of the experience.
 
Bare_head said:
anyone tried rectal dosing? how smaller a dose do u need and does it take the nausea away?

I prefer it rectally... it comes up very fast and lasts quite some time, and there is no nausea at all with that method (for me). Orally, I sometimes have gotten horrendous nausea and it takes like 3 hours to really come up. The only downside (if you consider it that) is that the come-up is fast, and it can be an intense ride, whereas orally the come-up is very slow and gradual.
 
I puked so hard off a rectal dose of 2CT7 I bruised my sphincter muscle

take that fwiw

you'll still puke (if you're like me) if you take a strong dose of t7, no matter the route

I'd wager to say you'll puke harder on rectal since its more abrupt (I was tripping in 10 mins with a clean colon from an enema right beforehand)
 
Interesting... for me, the only reason I ever puked on T-7 was due to my stomach feeling so acidic from the chemical. When I take it rectally, it burns very badly for a few minutes, so I just assumed it's an irritating chemical. But since it was in my rectum and not my stomach, there was no hint of nausea by that route, only burning pain instead.
 
wow i find oral quite a stimulating experience i imagine snorted or rectally too be even more stimulating. its weird, i find it quite stimulating at first, and about 5 hours after injestion the ride turns into a MDMA like body high. i really rate this stuff, although i havnt gone past 20mg yet:)
 
right i went past it and boy did i get taught a lesson. i will be sure to respect this chem alot more in future
 
Bare_head said:
wow i find oral quite a stimulating experience i imagine snorted or rectally too be even more stimulating. its weird, i find it quite stimulating at first, and about 5 hours after injestion the ride turns into a MDMA like body high. i really rate this stuff, although i havnt gone past 20mg yet:)


Yup. The reason why Schedule I drugs are Schedule I is because they kick too much ass for the governing body to handle=D
 
2c-t-7 Question

I've acquired 28mg of the stuff, now I don't want to do all 28 in one go as it may be a little intense for a first time. But also I don't want to have 2 sub-breakthrough trips...
What would you recommend?

I was thinking about doing say 10/12 and then 16/18 for a second time?
I heard you can smoke it in tiny amounts but don't really fancy that from a harm reduction perspective.
 
i would try 10mg first , and then the remaining pile, if u dont find that good enough then just try aquire more :)
 
orally, I would personally recommend more than 10mg, but I took 14mg first time and felt practically nothing (though I do have fond recollections of the 'non-trip' so something must have been going on)

but 10mg would be conservative

sorry for not recommending a conservative dose
 
Thanks for the replies,
As I can't acquire any more of the stuff for the forseable future I'm going to do 10mg as a starter dose, then when the times right do 18 :P
 
Hot-7

Has anyone ever sampled HOT-7?
Will it really treat you as similar to 2C-T-7 as Shulgin sez it does?
What about dose for a first-timer(of both)?
 
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