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The Big & Dandy 2C-P Thread

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Pretty intense... I haven't been surprised in a while. :) I'm currently udnergoing a fairly rapid taper from poppy seed tea, and I'm skipping every other day, during which I have withdrawals. It completely eliminated any feeling of withdrawals. I had trouble communicating for about 3 hours or so, and then I loosened up and had a great time... my mind felt quick and my fingers as well (I played some Rock Band 2, guitar on expert on a bunch of the most difficult songs). I was tripping nicely until I went to bed, at which time I didn't have much trouble.
 
well, I have only tried 2cp once so far at 10mg.

So far I would have to say that 2cp is not as intense as 2ce in terms of depth.

However, these two drugs are equally intense in terms of their immersiveness.
I mean--you are really IN the trip with 2cp, as opposed to 2cb or 2ci where I find I can sort of go in and out of the trip. DMT is obviously the most immersive psychedelic and LSD at higher doses is not that far behind DMT.
For me, 10mg 2cp was as immersive as a moderately high dose of 2ce.

Does that make sense?
 
It's a lot like 2C-E, yes, but longer and "bigger" feeling if that makes sense. It was a little intimidating coming up. I feel more at home with 2C-E... 2C-P felt a bit more alien. Good stuff though.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone have any information on the short and long-term toxicity of 2c-p consumption?

After much exploration of this compound via a variety of dosage routes, amounts and settings; i believe the only health concerns due to the oral ingestion of this research chemical is due to the vasconstriction caused by the quantity of metabolites present from dosages exceeding 35mg orally. I am yet to believe there is any neuro-toxic or lasting psychological effects attributable to heavy consumption of 2,5-dimethoxy-propylphethylamine.
 
I'm not sure if such information exists, as little to no research has been done on these compounds. What makes you arrive at the conclusions you reached about 35mg orally, and that number specifically? It seems like people have fairly wide-ranging responses to the same dosage for all of these compounds, especially 2C-E and 2C-P.
 
Xorkoth said:
It's a lot like 2C-E, yes, but longer and "bigger" feeling if that makes sense. It was a little intimidating coming up. I feel more at home with 2C-E... 2C-P felt a bit more alien. Good stuff though.
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what dosage for each are you talking?
 
Xorkoth said:
Just bummed 6mg... let's see how it goes. :)
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Are you able to go into duration, comeup times, peak times in a little detail for me please? I generally take my psyche's rectally these days. If you could compare it to any others you have taken that would be apprecaited, i took 20mg 2c-e rectally not long ago and it got a little too intense for me and dont want to be stuck with a 14hour trip that's 'too intense'.

I was thinking about taking 3mg rectally as a trial to see how it feels and length of the trip. Just need to find a time when I am free to trip
 
Yeah, 20mg rectally is about 40mg orally... which is a damn big dose of 2C-E. :D

Let's see... duration, it lasted 8-10 hours with the ending being a bit fuzzy with trailing effects... I felt altered until I slept, which was about 12 hours after I dosed. I started coming up within 20 minutes, but it didn't really swing in strongly until about 1.5-2 hours. The peak lasted probably about 4 hours and then started dropping off some.

The feeling was a lot like 2C-E but it seemed fuzzier and more "enveloping". There was a little more anxiety, but nothing serious. 2C-E tends to make everything appear crisper to me including my thoughts... 2C-P seemed to make everything appear fuzzier, including my thoughts. I had some interesting thoughts on it, and after the peak I was quite communicative (during the peak I had a little trouble communicating due to the intensity). 2C-P made me feel pretty in touch with my emotions... not really moreso than 2C-E, just differently. 2C-E feels very neutral to me but its clarity can be used to explore the emotional area if you push it that way. 2C-P felt a little more directed towards emotion... not so neutral. I'd say it was slightly positive, but not in the way of 2C-I or 2C-B.

Overall, I prefer 2C-E. 2C-P didn't have that same clarity. But I did enjoy it and I feel like it has potential. I found it analogous, not surprisingly, to the differences between 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7. 2C-T-2 is more intellectual and crisp, which 2C-T-7 is more feelings-based and fuzzy.
 
I'm VERY interested in trying this one this year...probably end of summer...Looks like it's going to be a big one.

The duration does slightly erk me, but I'm sure it will be fine, my experience with psychs is getting better and as long as I have a tripping buddy I should be all smiles :)
 
Xorkoth said:
Let's see... duration, it lasted 8-10 hours with the ending being a bit fuzzy with trailing effects... I felt altered until I slept, which was about 12 hours after I dosed. I started coming up within 20 minutes, but it didn't really swing in strongly until about 1.5-2 hours. The peak lasted probably about 4 hours and then started dropping off some.

The feeling was a lot like 2C-E but it seemed fuzzier and more "enveloping". There was a little more anxiety, but nothing serious. 2C-E tends to make everything appear crisper to me including my thoughts... 2C-P seemed to make everything appear fuzzier, including my thoughts. I had some interesting thoughts on it, and after the peak I was quite communicative (during the peak I had a little trouble communicating due to the intensity). 2C-P made me feel pretty in touch with my emotions... not really moreso than 2C-E, just differently. 2C-E feels very neutral to me but its clarity can be used to explore the emotional area if you push it that way. 2C-P felt a little more directed towards emotion... not so neutral. I'd say it was slightly positive, but not in the way of 2C-I or 2C-B.

Overall, I prefer 2C-E. 2C-P didn't have that same clarity. But I did enjoy it and I feel like it has potential.
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This reflects my 2 trials with 2C-P very accurately! I'll have to write up a trip report for my next experience with this one.

Still have 400mg+ to work with and look forward to it.
 
Xorkoth said:
I found [the differences between 2ce and 2cp] analogous, not surprisingly, to the differences between 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7. 2C-T-2 is more intellectual and crisp, which 2C-T-7 is more feelings-based and fuzzy.
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so would you compare 2cp to 2ct7 then?
 
Xorkoth said:
The feeling was a lot like 2C-E but it seemed fuzzier and more "enveloping". There was a little more anxiety, but nothing serious. 2C-E tends to make everything appear crisper to me including my thoughts... 2C-P seemed to make everything appear fuzzier, including my thoughts. I had some interesting thoughts on it, and after the peak I was quite communicative (during the peak I had a little trouble communicating due to the intensity). 2C-P made me feel pretty in touch with my emotions... not really moreso than 2C-E, just differently. 2C-E feels very neutral to me but its clarity can be used to explore the emotional area if you push it that way. 2C-P felt a little more directed towards emotion... not so neutral. I'd say it was slightly positive, but not in the way of 2C-I or 2C-B.
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I just tried 2C-P for the first time with a dose of 14mg, and much of Xorkoth's description reflects my experience as well. However, I liked 2C-P as much or more than 2C-E, and I felt somewhat more in touch with my emotions. The fuzziness of thought I did have and it is bad if you want a very thoughtful trip, but I felt like I was connected to the same sort of psychedelic space in a more intuitive/emotional way; the sort of ineffability where you're sharing information and learning within yourself but without words.

Also noteworthy: while taking up to 35mg of 2C-E didn't have me tripping as hard as I have on an eighth of mushrooms or 250mics LSD (I'm kind of a hard-head with phen's in general), 14mg of this stuff turned me into a space cadet (in a good way) for hours, with better visuals, audio effects and stronger effects in general than any 2C has given me.
 
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i've only experienced 2c-p twice now (and coming up on a third, though idk if 8mg is enough after dosing both friday and saturday... probably isn't), and while it is pretty deep it felt forgiving enough to me at the doses i did... 6mg at about 4pm, then 12mg the next morning at 6am. hey, what can i say, i'm used to having a bunch of DOC or DOI sitting around, being down in 10 hours was actually disappointing! =D
 
I've also now experienced 2C-P twice now. 9mg about 2 weeks ago put me on a very nice trip. The body high was excellent, and the visuals were nice. Not nearly as intense as 20mg 2C-E. Now last weekend I decided to try 14mg 2C-P. This blew me away. I still had slight visuals 24 hours after the trip. The body high was nice, but I was defiantly getting more muscle tension and cramps throughout the night. A much heavier body load than any amount of 2C-E I've taken. The visuals were very very intense, some of the craziest trails I've ever had. But In all honesty I really didn't like it as much as 2C-E. Almost felt like I was a bit poisoned by it. Also 7 of my friends tried it the same night for the first time, all at doses of 10mg. 5 out of 7 puked, but they all enjoyed the trip very much after that. One big downside to this one is its the hardest 2C to fall asleep on. Mind you I've tried 2cb, 2cc, 2cd, 2ce, 2ci, and 2c-t-7. Also the 3+ hour come up is a bit long. You really have to devote the entire day-night to this one. I'll be trying it again at 7mg this weekend, with 15mg 2c-b.
 
porkstock said:
so would you compare 2cp to 2ct7 then?
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Yes, I would. 2C-T-7 is more of a fun, light feeling though. 2C-P is kind of heavy.

thenightwatch said:
6mg at about 4pm, then 12mg the next morning at 6am. hey, what can i say, i'm used to having a bunch of DOC or DOI sitting around, being down in 10 hours was actually disappointing! =D
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Heh, I thought I might be the only one who considers the duration of the DOXs to be a bonus instead of a drawback. =D
 
^^when i have the time, i almost always prefer long duration psyches. life is just so much more interesting when my 5ht2a receptors are being tickled :)^^

well, my 8mg 2C-P trip went pretty well. i may have had a bit of tolerance from last weekend, but not much. it was definitely stronger than my initial 6mg dose. visually, i still didn't have much going on. the closest to visuals i got was staring at myself in the mirror--but what psychedelic DOESN'T give visuals then?

2C-P has proven every time i've taken it thus far to be very introspective. for awhile it was almost too introspective. but i'm not sure the things i was seeing in myself were as true as they felt at the time. meditating worked well, i was very in tune with the animal sounds outside my window. to the point where i couldn't tell if i was controlling them, they were controlling me, or we were all just riding the same wave of energy. it was very weird.

i wish i had tried exploring the closed-eye world closer to the peak. that was when the introspection was the strongest however, so i didn't really get into laying back, eyes shut, with music on until the decline. i'm not sure i would have had CEVs though.

i was down for the most part after about 10 or 11 hours. didn't sleep at all until the next night at about 7pm. i could have stayed awake but didn't really want to.

oh, and i used a smoke blend through the trip too, starting right around the beginning of the plateau. i believe it contains jwh-073, but i'm not sure. it mixed well.

should this have gone in TR?
 
thenightwatch said:
meditating worked well, i was very in tune with the animal sounds outside my window. to the point where i couldn't tell if i was controlling them, they were controlling me, or we were all just riding the same wave of energy. it was very weird.
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i've experienced that, but on 2ce and/or LSD



i'm wondering if 2cp might be good for an early afternoon music festival dose. i'm one that could enjoy 2ce at a festival, so 2cp's longer duration would work good in that setting. it would probably be my first time trying it though. maybe i'll stick with L, 2ce or 2cb..the list goes on
 
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