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The Big & Dandy 2C-P Thread

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i think you should take a drug you're more familiar with for a festival. 2c-p might want to send you into an intense introspective journey, but you might just want to enjoy the tunes! i think the way it works is the introspection goes away and the pure enjoyment comes as you dose a drug more and more times.
 
thenightwatch said:
oh, and i used a smoke blend through the trip too, starting right around the beginning of the plateau. i believe it contains jwh-073, but i'm not sure. it mixed well.
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I tried a 3mg rectal dose few weeks ago, woke up at 9am, measured out 3mg of vial with oral syringe and dosed at 9:30am.
Felt initial effects within 30minutes, phenethylamine stomach butterflies and light tracers.
After an hour there was slight tracers and little bit of mind wandering but nothing major. Faith closed eye visuals
2hours into trip and I looked out of the window, I was amazed by the beauty and decided to go to school instead of skipping the day for my first test with 2c-p.
On the way to school i rolled and smoked a half filled joint of what i believe to be a jwh-018 blend which I know to be quite potent.

5minutes after smoking the joint my trip goes into overdrive, time slows down incredibly, mind goes into a very introspective trip and everything around me starts warping. I realize I was tripping a lot harder then I intended to be and decided to sit in the park instead of going to school. Ended up in the park drawing and looking at nature while thinking to myself (and talking to myself :P, yes, i'm one of those people who talks to themselvs during their trip in public haha). Every time I dose 2c-'s, i like to sit in the same park, on the same bench and ponder. This also allows me to gauge how strong the visuals are.
3mg of rectal 2c-p and 1joint of strong jwh-018 blend (unknown mg doseage), For me, the visuals felt like a previous 10mg rectal 2c-e trip I had before. Very strong warping visuals, treetrunks waving, sky changing colour. Very intense, way more intense then i expected from 3mg rectal and a bit of jwh.
After 3hours in the park, drawing and watching nature the jwh started to wear down and for the next 6hours I was in a fantastic state, nice visuals and fairly clear mind.
During the peak my thoughts were very fuzzy and a lot of things didn't make sense, sitting in the park i could smell something funky and thought i stepped in dogpoo. When i was checking my shoes i was thinking to myself, 'wait, what even is dogpoo? what is poo?! do i poo?! why am i looking for poo again? holy shit that tree just waved at me'.

I don't have any intention again to try a jwh blend during a 2c-p trip, it amplified the intensity but also made it a little bit uncomfortable with the paranoia (that jwh-018 is known for) with more anxiety then usual. The fuzziness of mental thought on 2c-p does not go well with jwh IMO, as I like to have a more clear train of thought during psychedelics. Other JWH blends may be different.
 
internettoughguy said:
I don't have any intention again to try a jwh blend during a 2c-p trip, it amplified the intensity but also made it a little bit uncomfortable with the paranoia (that jwh-018 is known for) with more anxiety then usual. The fuzziness of mental thought on 2c-p does not go well with jwh IMO, as I like to have a more clear train of thought during psychedelics. Other JWH blends may be different.
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i think you just smoked way too much. =) i take maybe four hits of my smoke blend. a full joint would make me sketch out even without 2cp in my system.
 
I personally find snorted 2cp (around 5mg) to be somehow more uncomfortable and unsettling than, let´s say...14mg orally.

The high comes way too soon and the come-up is not as gentle as it would be using the oral route... the effects appear to me like a more confusing and unnerving body buzz, followed by a strange head-space.
The oral route, on the other hand, feels like a progressive, colorfull, relaxed MDMA-esque journey into oneself´s emotional realm... really good stuff.


For me, snorting this 2c isn´t just the proper way of taking it... yes, it kicks in much faster (so you won´t be waiting 3 hours for the peak to appear...) but the final effects seems to be like nothing comparable at all with those of the oral method.


Any BL´s sharing the same perceptions?!
:)
 
^interesting. I'll be trying this one soon, so hopefully i'll be able to compare notes. Generally I prefer my 2c-x's orally, save 2c-t-2. Hadn't really noticed different effects from oral vs. insufflation, just much faster comeup. Though I could see how the unsettling comeup could taint the rest of your trip with nervousness etc.
 
is the solubility any different than other 2c's? Think i could get 7mg/mL solution in a water/alcohol solution without trouble? I'd assume yes, but thought i'd ask.
 
with a little heat, i'm sure it would work.

idk if it says anything about 7mg/ml or not, but 1mg/ml dissolved very, very readily into 40% vodka.
 
I couldn't seem to find any other info on 2C-P tested with marquis. So I just tested a tiny sample and hopefully people can confirm the reaction.

2C-P with marquis : Turned yellow instantly.
 
hmm... most 2c's turn blue or green or somewhere in between with marquis, Mandellin & Mecke usually turn yellow/brown.

How is 2c-p in the music enhancement department? I'm finally going to try it this weekend, had it sitting around forever & just haven't had the time. Definitely looking forward to it.
 
sorry, the halogenated 2c's tend to do the blue green thing, alkylated ones tend to do a faint yellow/brown that sometimes fades to clear.

Also, is duration reliable with this one, and how dose dependent is that? I'm planning on taking 6-9mg, so I'd guess in the 10-14hr range, based on PiHKAL.
 
see, when you vape 2c-e or 2c-i, it's hard to get much beyond 20mg or so, & this seems to dull the effects a bit, which for me often produces a really nice space with less body-load than oral--i can often dance or even work on it. in other words, though, it's virtually impossible to full-on "trip" on 2c-e or 2c-i via vaping.

so, yesterday, figured i would try what is typically for me the gentlest method of assay with a very small amount of something new to me, 2c-p.

after a single vape hit (which consumed less than half of no more than 5mg of material) i felt a nausea that i'm used to feeling only deep with much higher doses of 2c's much later into the trip.

"hmm." i thought. "that's weird. is that the 2c-p? it's taking effect awfully... quickly"

and i then discovered that jesus xist this is strong material! :)

i managed to recover my senses well enough to follow a tv program by about T + 2.5 hours, lol

nausea even faded after a while, & (as usual) started eating everything i could find instead.

had about .5 mg alprazolam at T + .30 and T + 3.0, easily fell asleep around T + 7 hours.

feel like i just accidentally touched the third rail :)

and not in a bad way

ps it is now T + 16hours, after 8 hours sleep, & i certainly am still very aware of what i was doing yesterday, though quite a bit more coherent
 
Help?!?! said:
Smoking 2c's never goes well. It just seems they weren't meant to be smoked. In other news i'm pretty sure i'm restocking this sexy material and going to have some reallllll fun with it.
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as usual, whenever someone mentions doing this successfully, someone else immediately says it's impossible/poisonous etc. Why?

& that's also overlooking the fact that there was nothing in my report to indicate a problem. My comment was about vaping, which is quite different from smoking anyway. (just ask mary jane.)

search smoking + any 2c-* compound in the archives. You'll find multiple threads documenting how to do it correctly. (and then numerous comments saying it's impossible and unsubstantiated claims that it's poisonous.) So many that maybe it's time for me to collect them up... but I remain baffled by the lack of clarity on this issue.
 
That doesn't change the fact that most people into psychedelics have tried it and discovered that it sucks. Are you saying that most of these people saying that it's a bad idea havn't tried it themselves? I can't tell from their responses (except the ones that say it's toxic, which is unsubstantiated)

On another topic... Can you smoke _amphetamine_ (not methamphetamine)? Are there any primary amines that can be smoked without pain or unpleasantness? I can't think of any...
 
Lol, it's funny when I look back at my comments as time went by in this thread. First I found it fascinating, then iffy, then unwelcoming, and now I'd say I wouldn't touch the stuff with a 10-foot pole!
 
TheAzo said:
That doesn't change the fact that most people into psychedelics have tried it and discovered that it sucks. Are you saying that most of these people saying that it's a bad idea havn't tried it themselves? I can't tell from their responses (except the ones that say it's toxic, which is unsubstantiated)

On another topic... Can you smoke _amphetamine_ (not methamphetamine)? Are there any primary amines that can be smoked without pain or unpleasantness? I can't think of any...
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in both of my posts I am talking about vaporizing, which is entirely different from smoking. the point of my original post was that vaporizing ~3mg of 2c-p was about as effective as I've heard eating that amount is. And virtually instantaneous. Seriously--powerful enough that I would caution anyone to be just as careful as they'd be eating the same amount.

When you vape properly, there is fairly small amount of vapor produced that, unlike 2c-x smoke, is virtually tasteless.

I suspect there has not been a lot of testing of vaporizing these chemicals, from my reading of reports, but from what I have read, like insufflating & some other less-popular methods, vaporizing has a small following.

I will try to collect the smoking data at some point, as I think that is interesting, too, but here I'm talking about vaporizing.
 
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