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The Big & Dandy 2C-P Thread

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Propyl Power said:
This doesn't sound right to me at all. For me 8mg of 2cp is roughly equivalent to 14-16mg of 2ce...
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My mileage seems to be the same as yours. 12mg produced some truly magnificent visuals covering my entire field of vision. Warping rainbow vortexes and stuff of that nature.
 
This is why I love bluelight. I heard of some of this in town the guy said he took a dose and was full on floored. This sounds like it's close to maybe 16 mg which makes me think i'll buy a dose and take 2 or 3 mgs out. Gotta check your chemicals or you'll get domed in the face.
 
Propyl Power said:
So when I repeatedly encounter rave-party, warehouse, strobelight, graffiti visuals on specifically 2C-B, it makes sense to me that this could be a result of 2C-B having been experienced in that environment for a major portion of its existence here on Earth.

And what about these cheap anime visuals I often get? it's almost like the junk tv and advertisements viewed by the Chinese chemist on the morning he synth'd the 2C-x were absorbed by the chemicals' morphogenic field... sounds outlandish I know, but why else would there be garish neon anime visions in Chinese chemicals? I don't watch anime - it's not coming from my psyche. Very bizarre.
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I enjoy your posts a lot and find this a really interesting idea (I find myself going through this post every time I visit this thread), but I think this is probably not the case.

I feel that our mental impression of our "psyche" during a serotonin blast is what is constructing these specific visuals for you. I don't think you need to watch anime on a regular basis (or consider it as even a bit of part of your ego) for scraps of previously retained (consciously or subconsciously) information to be turned into visuals.

I have a feeling that chemicals don't have any realm to be shaped, some just happen to be rather groovy, cartoony, or distinct in another clear nature between many people due to their natural neurological actions. If I had some 2C-I before Shulgin did, I have a feeling I would still describe a high dose as "life on Windows 95" and then immediately look for the nearest glowing or flaming objects I can spin poi with.

There is a lot of "I feel" in my posts and I think this is a pretty awesome topic now that I get thinking about it. (I still can't explain why I feel this way about why these chems can't be shaped but already have their own structure for psychological tendencies for some reason without saying "I feel" or "I have a feeling" :D, weird)

Who knows, maybe I'm way off and I have been spending my time morphing your trips into my cheesy raves lol.
 
ive taken 2c-p multiple times in range from 10 to 14 mg and have found it to be one of the best for cevs as well as micro-pixelation among objects when focused upon. Snorting generally reduces the trips duration significantly as orally makes it seem quite longer, feels like rolling without the speedy kick. Definitely recommended if tripping alone or like sensory deprivation
 
Propyl Power said:
At 8 mg, the most impressive visual was of this fantastic, bizarre, multi-limbed godform... my first thought was, "This is a cactus entity! I can contact intelligences on 2C-P just like I can with plants! What a marvelous synthetic!"

Then it looked at me, and communicated something to the effect of, "You know, plant-based mescaline would be much more suited to your purposes."

And then it left.

=D
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^ Just made my day haha
 
Has anyone on here smoked 2c-p? over on Hip forums i guess i guy would smoke it sometimes but i didnt actually find where he talked about it so i dont really know.

I just dont have 16 hours to trip anytime soon and i think smoking it would be the best choice if it does in fact work well
 
well snorting 2c-x's just kinda burns and increases bioavailability substantially. Smoking them is a pretty big unknown, as there isn't any way to know how much was vaped, what the combustion products are, and what effect any of these has on your lungs. Also most 2c's are sold as an HCl salt, which probably isn't good to try and smoke either. If one were to convert it to a freebase, it would probably be more effective, but again, who knows about the combustion products. Additionally everyone i know that's smoked a 2c has said it was awfully rough on the lungs.
 
Freebase 2C-X vapor is incredibly harsh. When i tried, i wasn't able to get any effects other than coughing and a sore throat.

Oral/plugged is the right way to do phens.
 
It's time for me to take ceepee for a test drive. If we get along nicely I'd like to make my way out to a museum and art gallery.

Would 5mgs rectal be a good starting dose? I would like a fulfilling, but not overly intense experience. Earlier in the thread f&b mentioned a 30-40% increase in BA of 2c-xs administered rectally.

I don't want to overshoot the dose but my window of opportunity is limited so I may not have time to redose if the first attempt proves insufficient. Recommendations welcome :)

edit: well, I just dosed 6mgs. I'll report back later :)
 
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I've done 2c-p a few times: 10mg snorted, 12mg oral, 12mg snorted (intense!), and, more recently, 8mg snorted. I feel like insufflating 2c-p is the way to go, at least for me, because the oral trip just isn't as intense as I would like. 12mg snorted was mind-fucking, while 12mg oral was so chill that i took a nap while coming up. that's cool, and i valued the oral experience, but this is the one 2c that i would say is better snorted.

it burns like a bitch, be warned. have a bucket ready for nausea. snorting 8mg was a solid trip (until i added mescaline - then it was REALLY solid), whereas I don't think 8mg oral would be anywhere near the level i like to be at. I would be curious to try 14mg oral, and see how that goes... perhaps 12 just isn't enough for me, orally.
 
I wanted to take a minute to let everyone know in each of the substance Big and Dandies about the community project of the PD forum which has been being worked on for the past 2 years or so, the Psychedelic Effects Profile survey. This survey asks you a number of questions, starting with the substance taken, the dose, the method of administration, other substances (non-psychedelic) ingested during the trip, and set and setting, and then it goes on to ask about a variety of specific effects, and you can select whether or not you experienced them and if so, the intensity level of that effect on a 5-point scale.

Thank you for your help with this! For this to be of any use whatsoever, we need as many responses as we can possibly get, so please take it as many times as you have time for, for as many substances as you have had proper trips on. We want to gather the full range of effects possible so feel free to take it for positive as well as negative experiences, for earth-shattering and average. Each time taking the survey is for a single trip on a single substance - no combinations please, as it taints the data for each substance. In the future I may make another survey for combinations. The survey takes about 5 minutes to get through so it's not too much of your time.

For further discussion of this project, please see the stickied thread at the top of the forum that starts with "Community Project". To take the survey, please click on this link: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=hvw6fx9mmvzz82l599169

:)

(I wanted to also add that with the less-common substances such as 2C-P, it's even more vitally important that anyone who has experience with it please contribute, as there are only so many people in existence that have even tried this.)
 
naura said:
I've done 2c-p a few times: 10mg snorted, 12mg oral, 12mg snorted (intense!), and, more recently, 8mg snorted. I feel like insufflating 2c-p is the way to go, at least for me, because the oral trip just isn't as intense as I would like. 12mg snorted was mind-fucking, while 12mg oral was so chill that i took a nap while coming up. that's cool, and i valued the oral experience, but this is the one 2c that i would say is better snorted.
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How long does the trip last for you when snorted vs oral?
 
naura, would you u be able to compare 12 mg oral 2cp with a certain dose of 2ce?
 
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