Kanaba said:
most people that ive talked to about 2ci who've done it, that i know personally, say they'd still rather eat good ol' lsd than any of the new shit that's coming around.
2C-I isn't a new drug. If I recall, it was first made in the late 70's along with 2C-C and 2C-F to explore the psychoactivity of the halogen analogues of 2C-B.
We all our preferences and favorites, but I don't really see how LSD and 2C-I can really be classed together. It's comparing apples to oranges. Of course some people like apples better than oranges. Some prefer oranges over apples, while others may enjoy eating both.
I could see a comparison being more relevant if you were talking about, say, LSD-25 and ALD-52. Then you are comparing Jonathan apples to golden delicious. Or 2C-B and 2C-I which compares naval oranges to tangerines. But when comparing indoles like LSD to phenethylamines such as 2C-I, you are talking about very different things. Sometimes parts will overlap, but they are not the same.
I guess it comes down to what people want/expect from a trip.
For me, LSD is a once or twice a year thing. I take it to completely break open my head and then put the pieces together again. Kinda what I use 5-MeO-DMT for. In proper dosages (for me a "proper dosage" of LSD is one high enough to where my ego is obliterated), I find LSD way too intense to do anything but lose myself in the experience. I tend to take LSD alone, or with just one other person. And all I do is listen to music, or if I am camping, I just look at the stars and lose myself in inner space. And I would never take LSD in public, except maybe a very low dose for a hiking trip.
On the other hand, I see 2C-I as a great "all purpose" psychedelic. Although I have not had any 2C-I since October of 2002, in the past I've used it many times in a year. I find this phenethylamine is great for introspection/personal insights, all day long sex marathons with your significant other, a nice colorful hike in the mountains, or just for two buddies to hang out and have extra-deep conversations. And 2C-I doesn't make me uncomfortable in public like LSD tends to.
LSD is just way too intense for most of the things I find 2C-I useful for unless I take a fairly low dosage. But I don't like low-dose LSD trips. LSD lasts too long for that; it's nice for the first 6 hours, but the second six hours become annoying because most of the psychedelic effect is gone but the annoying residual stimulation still remains. And it's just not worth the stimulation for me to take LSD at a low dose. On the other hand, 2C-I has little impact on the body in the 12mg to 16mg area which is what I usually take. And the trip from 2C-I is much shorter and smoother than with LSD. So it suites me better for most purposes. 2C-I doesn't obliterate my ego like LSD and other powerful indoles can, but I don't take it for that purpose.
So I can't say I prefer one over than the other. Rather, I find each useful for different purposes. I'd never take 2C-I for ego-destruction trip, and I'd never take LSD for a "sex trip" or a walk in the park.
Kanaba said:
maybe its just me, but id much rather buy acid than 2ci. i think it's far more worth it.
What do you mean "worth it"? I'm just curious. This topic makes for good discussion.