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The Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread

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I've tried a lot of different pyshces and still hold 2c-i in the top tier of them(I also tried many of them before 2c-i). I don't follow the normal dosages though as I probably wouldn't take less than 25 mgs. I find most of the people who have a problem with 2c-i mainly complain about disliking the physical side effects especially at higher doses(similar with 2c-e). I find that the physical effects of most phens rarely bother me. I like 2c-i a fair amount and would enjoy always having some in my collection.
 
I have a question for those who have tried both 2C-I and any other 2C: which are the most or least similar to -I? I've heard the -T-s tend to be pretty visual and -E is often regarded as the deepest. I know the dose and length listings from PiHKaL, but I'd love more specific comparisons to -I. Which 2C stacks up best in terms of euphoria? Visuals?

More specifically, can anyone compare 2C-P and 2C-T-7, to each other and/or to -I? Which would be better suited for recreational tripping with the top three priorities of euphoria, lack of nausea/body load and strong OEV potential?

I'm not sure if this is the best thread for this question, but a lot of the people I expect might have answers are as likely to read this thread as any other and since -I is the only 2C I've tried and the one I'd like others compared to, it seems like a decent fit.
 
^Tough question, man. I've always found 2C-I to be pretty idiosyncratic.

Like its way deeper than any 4-halo 2C, but it still can't compare to the depth of the 4-alkyl 2C's. Kinda like psychedelic blue-balls....the feeling that something damn extraordinary could happen at any moment, but nothing very worthwhile ever seems to materialize.

I'm not saying its not enjoyable-- just odd. Too deep to be very recreational, but not deep enough to be very mind-expanding.

FWIW, I think 2C-I finds its home in the groove of the music. It takes on a much more interesting character when you start to be consumed by a piece of incredible music, which can also serve to distract you from the shitty body-feelings that can accompany the trip.
 
Does anyone practice laboratory science/work in a lab/have a lab/&c &c have lab notes for the process? I'm probably going to write one as well, just wanted to see my peer's work before I begin.
 
2C-P and 2C-T-7 are both good for re-creational tripping, I think T-7 is more euphoric and visual, P being more potent, deep, and a tad longer and lacking body load/nausea.

What I think about 2C-I is same opinion Help?!?! has, I don't dislike body load and I still prefer 2C-I over 2C-E.
 
kobilica said:
2C-P and 2C-T-7 are both good for re-creational tripping, I think T-7 is more euphoric and visual, P being more potent, deep, and a tad longer and lacking body load/nausea.

What I think about 2C-I is same opinion Help?!?! has, I don't dislike body load and I still prefer 2C-I over 2C-E.
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I never said I like 2c-i better than 2c-e. I absolutely love 2c-e and like it more than 2c-i. It simply has more to bring to the table and seems to fit me perfectly. 2c-e my <3 is yours.....2c-i too just not nearly as much.:)
 
johannes kreisler said:
plugged 9mg of 2c-i 90min ago and -... :) ...- this stuff is so benign!
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Hmmmm okay, would you say 9 mg of 2C-I rectally administered is stronger than an oral dose of the same amount? I'm trying to piece together 2C-I's bioavailability across various ROAs
 
Well, as it turns out, my next batch will be -E instead of -I, so I guess I'll get to make the comparison myself soon enough.

It seems like 2C-T-7 has a reputation for being insanely visual for most people. Is this accurate? I rarely get intense OEVs on anything but heroic doses of tryptamines, so finding a compound that reliably produces a visually intense trip would nicely round out my recreational psychedelic collection.
 
solistus said:
Well, as it turns out, my next batch will be -E instead of -I, so I guess I'll get to make the comparison myself soon enough.

It seems like 2C-T-7 has a reputation for being insanely visual for most people. Is this accurate? I rarely get intense OEVs on anything but heroic doses of tryptamines, so finding a compound that reliably produces a visually intense trip would nicely round out my recreational psychedelic collection.
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Well I guess those people are also those who hallucinate hard on 2C-I and 2C-E.

I never did saw anything spectacular on any of those :p:! just when combining E I and C.
 
carpaljets said:
Hmmmm okay, would you say 9 mg of 2C-I rectally administered is stronger than an oral dose of the same amount? I'm trying to piece together 2C-I's bioavailability across various ROAs
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sorry. can't give you a statement on this; it was my first time with the compound. but as Help said I was expecting ~18mg(oral)-effects. (colon was cleaned professionally btw ;) )

well, I didn't get the slightest visuals (minor breathing for some seconds perhaps), nor did I experience "classical psychedelic" effects. but all in all it was a very positive, even rewarding experience. some kind of an energetic, peaceful relaxation pointing at some doors I might have gone through before; without any pushing&dragging...
Having a 2h walk through the snow was beautiful. :)
I def. see some therapeutic potential in this (cute little) one.

next time: 20mg oral.


edit: just added 10mgs of zolpidem to get rid of residual stimulation and finally find sleep. (t: 14h!)
 
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Hi all.
I'm well used to acid from way back in the day & did 30mgs of 2C-i at a festival last weekend. I'd been told it was "like speed" so figured why not, and popped the capsule.

30 minutes later I noticed pretty intense shimmering visual disturbances and that jittery mental state that announces the onset of an acid trip, so went for a walk in the countryside instead of watching the bands.

Although I'd agree with everyone else that it comes with none of the dark thoughts and edginess of acid, and I'd had some bad news prior to taking it, I found it pretty overwhelming... possibly the speedy aspect now that I think of it... all of my senses were battling with one another, my heart was racing & my jaw was locking.

As soon as it hit I vomited, and for the rest of the 8 or 9 hour trip I had a strange fatigue that made me keep yawning, even though my mind was racing.

I got it into my head that I didn't want to be around people, something I'd read elsewhere as a symptom, and spent the day lying in a hammock I peculiarly found on a mountain.

Not a bad experience, but far from a party drug I'd say. In saying that, all my friends did the same, if not more, and were perfectly happy interacting with big crowds and partying.

I slept on it easily enough, had about 3 hours sleep and woke up without a slight hangover and feeling fresh.

I would say however that -to me- anything that makes you trip is pretty much acid. I mean, compared to cocaine, ecstacy, speed and marijuana which all have identifiable traits and feelings, I'd classify 2C-i as 'acid'. I'm no connoisseur, but I certainly wouldn't see acid & 2c-i as "apples and oranges".
 
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Acid and 2c-i are most certainly apples and oranges. The only common ground they have IMO is that their both very visual chemicals and they both have stimulative effects on me. Acid however has a mental portion to the trip which makes 2c-i look like child's play. You would be better off saying 2c-e is like acid as I find them fairly similar with a few distinguishing qualities.
 
Yeah I suppose to clarify, the 2c-i cap was given to me described as 'like speed', which obviously it's a million miles from.
I suppose 'like acid' I meant a tripping agent.

But I still have difficulty distinguishing anything that makes you trip. That's just me though I guess :)
2c-i's obviously no microdot though in terms of intensity. I'd say if you did more of it you wouldn't be far off.
 
They are easily distinguishable for me. Not only is the body high drastically different for me but the style of visuals as well.

LSD is much superior to 2C-I in pretty much every way. Does acid make you vomit, significantly raise your heart rate, and give you headaches and lock jaw? 30mg is a huge dose so I'm not surprised that you experienced negative side effects and unpleasant stimulation.

2C-I is one of the "dirtier" psychs I have tried. It's still pretty good though at moderate doses though.
 
How much is a good dose if you were to snort some 2c-i on the tail end of some methylone? I know it is supposed to burn like the fire from a thousand suns, but taking it oral gives me some really bad stomach cramps.
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I understand your reluctance to take 2C-I orally. I almost always experience bad stomach cramps when dosing that RoA. Especially when I have it in solution with ethanol. Yuck. As far as what dose you should rail, I'd recommend using 5mg and see how that goes. I've railed 2C-I and 2C-E many times, as well as combined together. 5mg always seemed to do the trick but I have gone as high as 20mg with no negative effects or bothersome stomach issues. I'd expect the effects to seem stronger as the 2C-I will probably be playing heavily off the lingering effects of the Methylone. I'd probably try 2C-I by insufflation alone for your first time. Do you have access to a mg scale? Eyeballing doses that small can be pretty challenging. I've never found the burn upon railing to be THAT bad. It definitely hurts but the pain subsides quickly. Just be sure to take the bump gently. You really don't want that shit to hit your lungs. That hurts much worse. ;P
 
Do people notice that some batches of the same 2c-x chemical burns less than others? Based on the 2C-I that I snorted once, I would never think to snort another 2C in my life!
 
I haven't snorted 2C-I yet...have snorted 2C-B many times (every time I've taken it) and sniffed 2C-E a handful of times too...
I am gonna have to sniff 2C-I now to see if what you say is the same..hehe...only taken it orally, once.
I always find the burn is significantly less (reduced to a throbbing) if you dab your finger in your dose and sniff it up your nose - like a coke spoon effect...and then rub the remaining residuals into the upper part of your septum. Works a treat with all the chemicals in my opinion...without the pain, eye watering etc.

solistus said:
I would agree that, if your goal is adventurous self-exploration, you may find another material more suitable after a little experience with -I. I wouldn't choose 2C-I (not on its own, anyway) if I were planning a big, crucify the ego type trip; LSD remains my top choice for that, and I hear 2C-E has the most to offer of the 2C family for such trips. 2C-I feels like the ultimate recreational psychedelic; it's quite euphoric, the visuals are interesting eye candy (especially at higher doses) and the headspace is altered and interesting without being too weird or scary.
It seems closest to mescaline from my limited experience with the latter, but even softer.
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I would completely agree with everything you said...

I was having a bit of a shit day when I decided to dose my 2C-I, but decided to dose anyways, and was taking it for the first time at the pub where my friends were throwing a halloween party, and I thought it would be perfect for my first time.
It was - it was very easy (I orally took about 20-25mg encapsulated) and the comeup was very gradual, unlike 2C-E orally which seemed to have a more aggressive action.
Completely recreational, I remember thinking that it had no entheogenic qualities about it WHATSOEVER...
THe visuals were pretty nice, like a high dose of 2C-B - I found there to be an added bonus of flashing white star/light-effects to it - something I'd never experienced on another hallucinogen.
I found the body-stimulation just right too, until I worked out (like on LSD) I couldn't get to sleep! Even though it was after T+ 10!!

On a side note, I would say 2C-E is VERY good for analyzing the back-to-front of your mind - super useful given the right dose, set & setting.
 
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