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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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what was your dose? Sounds like 17-18mg? Hard to tell from your post. I'm glad you had an enjoyable time with this substance. I plugged 5mg and could sense the difficulty of the substance, but I do look forward to a 10mg oral dose.
 
yea my friend said each vial had about 17-18mg in it. We ate it.

Really good!! So far my favourite of the 2c's, although didn't get any actual seeing stuff that's not there visuals, just crazy distortions of what was already there, finding everything really funny, also coming up with some what I thought at the time, was really clever stuff!!! :)

I don't know if you guys are familiar with the x-factor? its like a singing talent show. We renamed it the "shit music Olympics" At the time this was the height of hilarity I can assure you....
 
nilbert munnington said:
At the time this was the height of hilarity I can assure you....
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I'm sure most people with tripping experience can dig this.
Hell, I even think it's hilarious and I only had a few sips of Havana. ;-P

2c-d
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Hmmm, I would definitely call 2C-D the least interesting of all psychedelics I have as of yet laid my hands on.
There's just no substance to it - for me. :\
I am wondering as to its effects in combination with 4-FMP/MDMA/MDMC though, to spice up the euphoria and add some visuals.

Gotta love 2C-E though, one of the visual champions of the phenethylamines.
Might be a tad hard on the muscles in some cases, but it's guaranteed to give some fireworks.
OP (and others), ever tried the combination of 2C-I with 2C-E?
I really like that one, the CEV are just insane and so deep.
Can't even begin to explain it without risking this post reaching epic length and not being read by anyone. =D
 
Can you give us some thoughts on relative dosages of 2c-e and 2c-i (relative to each other and themselves consumed alone)? I'm interested in this.
 
Of course! I'd be happy to give some thoughts on the relative dosages.
That's what this forum is all about, right? Helping eachother etc...

Anyway, depending on the variant with which you get more bodyload issues (would be 2C-E for most I guess) I would either start with:
14-16 mg 2C-I and 8-10 mg 2C-E
or
12-14 mg 2C-E and 12 mg 2C-I

For reference:
I normally take 18-20 mg 2C-I for a casual trip (techno party).
My preferred dosage for 2C-E is 15-16 mg.

If you'd like some additional advise, feel free to PM.
When you list your normal dosages etc, I could have some more thoughts about an appropriate ratio. :)
 
I can't PM yet. 2c-i doesn't thrill me, i'd much rather mix 2c-d. My normal 2c-d dose is 70mg. My normal 2c-i dose is 15mg - 45mg (45 mg split into 15mg doses over a few hours). Last time I took 2c-d i took 15mg of 2c-i and 70mg of 2c-d and got very nearly a +4 experience... Definitely beyond +3, but not quite +4. As I've developed tolerance 2c-i ceases to do anything enjoyable for me. Maybe time for a break?
 
2C-D is definitely a good candidate for easy mixing.
It has no big identity of itself, but can really potentiate other phenethylamines.

Shame to hear you don't find much comfort in 2C-I, most people have it as one of their favs.
But I would definitely try the 2C-E/2C-I combo at least once.
You might not really enjoy 2C-I by itself, but if you like 2C-E the 2C-I will definitely bend the effect of 2C-E a bit.

About the break...what do you call a break (lengthwise) and how often do you take phenethylamines atm?
Tolerance can develop, but is usually not really harsh with psychedelics.
Have you ever had the chance to test the purity of your powders/content of your capsules?
Recently read some reports that more RC powders then you would think are around 80% pure.
 
I find 2c-i enjoyable, just not very interesting, and I fear the body stimulation could become too much at higher doses. Perhaps I just haven't taken enough.

I haven't quite cracked the "nut" of 2c-d, so I will withhold judgement in that I am not sure if it has an identity of its own or not. I've always taken it with 2c-i to good effect. I don't get visuals on 2c-i, but if I add in 70mg of 2c-d, magic happens. I attribute this to the 2c-d more than the 2c-i. I will have to perform more experiments.

I consume phenethylamines right now about once every 2 weeks. I was dosing weekly for a bit. Now I mix up my phenethylamine use with tryptamine use, but I will typically ingest something on a weekend, even if its a smallish dose of 2c-i or something.

Haven't tested the purity of the powders. I have no real means or interest in doing so.
 
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Tried 2c-e for the first time last night; great experience! DPH really helped.

However, I was quite surprised at mental ease and lucidity of the trip, given that I've heard people refer to it as an "ego shreeder" many times. I have to wonder if tolerance was the key factor, or if I'm merely a hardhead...

The previous night I had done 3 hits of (VERY) degraded acid and about 25mg of 2c-D. This provided an enjoyable, but very mild +2 trip. The next day (last night), I decided to do 2c-e. I knew tolerance would be an issue, so I decided to up the dosage and choose a more intense ROA to make up for this.

First, I plugged 20mg. After about 2 hours, I was at a very mild +2, extremely similar to a light 2c-i or 2c-d trip. I knew that the drug had finished coming up, and also knew tolerance was the cause of this. So, I decided to take 20 more mg orally. After another hour, I felt slightly more inebriated, but still, easy on the body and light visuals - and virtually NO mental alteration. FINALLY, I thought to myself, "shit, I am not totally wasting 40mg of 2c-e. I'm going to snort this shit." So, I snorted 15mg. This is where things finally got going - the visuals increased 10 fold, I saw wonderful floral patterns on a mere blank white wall, saw entrancing hieroglyphics on my couch, in addition to many little stick figures. The bodyload also increased - I dry heaved a couple of times, but thanks to the DPH, this wasn't even as bad as the bodyload I get while IMing or snorting 2c-i. Once the nausea subsided (pretty shortly - after maybe an hour), I actually found the body load relatively pleasant (aside from the over stimulation when I tried to sleep - ugh) and music + synesthesia was nuts. However... my mentality was totally unaffected, aside from a slight increase in creativity. I was having extremely lucid conversations with some friends online, who weren't even aware of the fact that I was tripping.

My guess is that a combination of tolerance and hardheadedness played a role in this - given the previous night, and the spacing of the dosages, but also taking into account the sheer volume of 2ce I consumed. My plan is to wait a week, and then take 20mg orally with a 5mg snorted - and, after I can gauge the effects at the peak, possibly supplement with some 2cd.

I have to say though, this substance RULED! Bodyload, at least with the DPH, was totally overstated by people, I felt, and music was out of this world. After the nausea subsided, I felt a remarkable similarity to LSD at higher doses (3 + hits), and to be honest, I'm not sure I could qualitatively differentiate the two in a blind test.
 
I feel like the same thing has been repeated for many pages on this thread now. DPH WILL reduce nausea and bodyload as well to some degrees. From my experiences 25mg of benadryl is enough to eliminate the nasty effects of 2c-e up to a 20mg dose. After that you might want to take more benadryl.


Does anyone have any good information on 2c-e tolerance. Ive done over 350mg of 2c-e since late september, after taking a three week break my 45mg dose barely phased me which was incredibly surprising. Its pointless taking anymore now, but i want to get a good idea of how long i have to wait till i can dose with no tolerance to 2c-e again.
 
Does anyone have any good information on combination of 2c-e and dxm? Since they are both fairly sedating from my experience, i think they would combine well in terms of body high. Im nervous about combining dxm with anything, and i havnt before, but this is a combination ive been thinking about for a while and might give it a shot.

Any insight bluelighters?
 
i snorted 2-3mg of 2ce one night, and smoked throughout the night. I got pretty decent visuals and a very trippy head set for a solid 4 hours. It was really great actually, visuals were very liquid like, whole thing felt like a more visual light acid trip. It was nice. Its so pwerful it blows my mind.
 
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Does anyone have any good information on combination of 2c-e and dxm? Since they are both fairly sedating from my experience, i think they would combine well in terms of body high. Im nervous about combining dxm with anything, and i havnt before, but this is a combination ive been thinking about for a while and might give it a shot.

Any insight bluelighters?
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Theres plenty of info on this if you even attempt to use the search engine. If you go to the first page of this thread you can also find a thread on 2ce + dissociatives.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=215315&highlight=2ce+dxm
 
2112acid said:
Does anyone have any good information on combination of 2c-e and dxm? Since they are both fairly sedating from my experience, i think they would combine well in terms of body high. Im nervous about combining dxm with anything, and i havnt before, but this is a combination ive been thinking about for a while and might give it a shot.

Any insight bluelighters?
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I'd imagine even with DPH the combined bodyload of 2c-e and dxm would be horrifying. Just my guess, though.
 
2112acid said:
Does anyone have any good information on combination of 2c-e and dxm? Since they are both fairly sedating from my experience, i think they would combine well in terms of body high. Im nervous about combining dxm with anything, and i havnt before, but this is a combination ive been thinking about for a while and might give it a shot.

Any insight bluelighters?
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yea i did that for new years this year haha. was a good time, i did delsym so in a combination with 2ce i had a little bit of nausea. But was a very visual time. I waited til i started feeling the effects of the dxm before snortin the 2ce. VERY VISUAL!!

one of my buddys came out to our party in the country and he flew off the road and high-centered his truck in a snowdrift. So were flying 55 on the frozen tundra blarin kid cudi- felt like i was in a moon-rover going to help our buddy stuck in a crater. it was a good time despite the -20 degree weather
 
just plugged roughly 30mg. wierd you can still feel the nausea eventually creep up on you. first time plugging... definitely need a smaller syringe for next time. the one i used was labled in half ounces haha
 
threw some pot into the mix about an hour ago. sent me to another world.

I take a step outside and looked around not noticing much then i look down to light my j and as i get it to go take my first hit and looked up...

Lost in space...

Then I thought a message was written in my neighbors yard.

Never the less no matter which way you take 2C-E, expect a hour's worth of downtime filled with some sort of discomfort. After that..

space
 
^wow 30mg rectal, what is your normal dose? 10mg rectal 2C-E would have me... well i don't know, i haven't gone above 8mg rectal :P
 
usually a couple 15-20mg doses internasally. sometimes more. the first time i did 2ce i did alot .my whole head and one of my arms went numb. my head went a lil numb last night, that still kinda freaks me out. but as always slept wonderful. when i woke up this morning i was like where'd all the pretty lights go haha
 
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