The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)
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Jblazingphoenix100
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Oh yeah ^ 30mg is too overwhelming for me in social environments, though...maybe at home with friends, or outside.
Hell yeah! 10mg oral though yeah? Coz that's fullblown tripping, but light for this substance.
Definitely feel the push is positive, analytically, but wouldn't say it's more than LSD ime - hence why I stopped doing LSD for a while, but mostly coz all the times I was offered it/happened to have some (LSD), it was a a social environment - party etc.
Hell yeah! 10mg oral though yeah? Coz that's fullblown tripping, but light for this substance.
Definitely feel the push is positive, analytically, but wouldn't say it's more than LSD ime - hence why I stopped doing LSD for a while, but mostly coz all the times I was offered it/happened to have some (LSD), it was a a social environment - party etc.
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^Yeah, 10mg orally. I am insensitive compared to the dose range for most drugs, but I seem to be well under the normal dose range on this particular drug. Like I said, it is around the same strength as 2-2.5g dried mushrooms. What would it take for you (or anyone that requires larger doses than me) to get around this level of effect?
Jblazingphoenix100
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I really couldn't ay - I don't have much experience with Cubensis mushrooms (I'm assuming you're talking about these), we generally take Liberty Caps over here.
I will test this out - see if I can get hold of more 2C-E than compare it with 2-2.5g of my friend's homecultivated Cubes.
I will test this out - see if I can get hold of more 2C-E than compare it with 2-2.5g of my friend's homecultivated Cubes.
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Last night (Tuesday night), a friend and I took weighed 17mg doses of 2ce in gel caps. we ended up playing video games and watching tv. We got really giddy after about an hour and a half as it came on.
A few hours of talk and laughter (about 3), and then we retired to our rooms for personal trips. I laid in bed thinking about my present life and my future, and what I should do and what I shouldn't do with / in my life.
I think this period of self reflection was therapeutic, and it was also physically enjoyable because as the trip went on it gave way to a feeling that for me is much like rolling that I usually get on 2ce. It makes my mouth and saliva feel different and just physically I feel very good all over and kind of suck on my teeth as if my brain is sucking on tasty psych candy.
I wormed around all night in bed thinking about things and kind of gurning like that feeling great and occasionally having some visions. I smoked some jdub (018) the next morning which intensified the visions and helped me to finally feal asleep, I slept until about 3pm.
Felt fine the next day as usual, after a few years of sporadic use I'm still impressed with 2ce. I have a few opportunities to trip lately (more than usual, have finally found a good time to do it), and so I am going to take advantage and probably dose some 4-aco-dmt tomorrow night or the next.
A few hours of talk and laughter (about 3), and then we retired to our rooms for personal trips. I laid in bed thinking about my present life and my future, and what I should do and what I shouldn't do with / in my life.
I think this period of self reflection was therapeutic, and it was also physically enjoyable because as the trip went on it gave way to a feeling that for me is much like rolling that I usually get on 2ce. It makes my mouth and saliva feel different and just physically I feel very good all over and kind of suck on my teeth as if my brain is sucking on tasty psych candy.
I wormed around all night in bed thinking about things and kind of gurning like that feeling great and occasionally having some visions. I smoked some jdub (018) the next morning which intensified the visions and helped me to finally feal asleep, I slept until about 3pm.
Felt fine the next day as usual, after a few years of sporadic use I'm still impressed with 2ce. I have a few opportunities to trip lately (more than usual, have finally found a good time to do it), and so I am going to take advantage and probably dose some 4-aco-dmt tomorrow night or the next.
MagickalKat777
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I'm gonna plug some 2C-E tonight... and maybe do some K bumps at the peak... I haven't done a phenethylamine psychedelic in at least a month (other than MDMA which I did two weeks ago) - think I will be okay with 12-15mg?
Hoping rectal dosing is less stimulating than oral... its the main reason I don't usually fuck with phens.
Hoping rectal dosing is less stimulating than oral... its the main reason I don't usually fuck with phens.
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30mg is a bit overwhelming, im still playing around with the 25mg dose and it is a gorgeous trip for me, trees bending down to me, vines erupting from the ground as were driving 40mph all around me. I think this might be my new favorite psychadelic... VERY insightful, thought provoking, mental, euphoric, visual pretty much everything i am looking for, and its so cheap!
Hypothetically, if I used a kava/passion flower mix to smooth out the edges, would this be safe? I’ve read that passion flower is a mild maoi, and that mixing maoi’s with 2c-x’s is a big no-no. I’ve also read that the maoi properties of passion flower aren’t nearly powerful enough to worry about.
The kava/passion flower makes me feel calm/grounded and comfortable in my own skin so I think it could be helpful if I became anxious. I’d wait to see how the trip developed rather than just take it automatically. I’d also take some Ibuprofen during the onset (automatically).
I know I know… Benadryl, but I don't like taking Benadryl until the come down. Would the kava/passion flower be safe to combine with 2c-e and Ibuprofen? I’d only be taking 2 capsules of kava root and 2 capsules of kava/passion flower mix so nothing too excessive
The kava/passion flower makes me feel calm/grounded and comfortable in my own skin so I think it could be helpful if I became anxious. I’d wait to see how the trip developed rather than just take it automatically. I’d also take some Ibuprofen during the onset (automatically).
I know I know… Benadryl, but I don't like taking Benadryl until the come down. Would the kava/passion flower be safe to combine with 2c-e and Ibuprofen? I’d only be taking 2 capsules of kava root and 2 capsules of kava/passion flower mix so nothing too excessive
MagickalKat777
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^^
You'll probably barf your guts out. I don't see a lot of harm coming from this though.
You'll probably barf your guts out. I don't see a lot of harm coming from this though.
MagickalKat777
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12.4mg rectal was a near death experience and I'm not quite sure it was 2C-E. My heart beat got so fast and I hit the peak so fast that it had to be something else - not to mention I'm still having phenethylamine visual distortions, its been over 24 hours, and I took 20mg of Valium and 15mg of remeron and it didn't put a dent in the stimulation or the hallucinations - first time that has ever happened - usually remeron will completely kill a trip for me due to its 5-HT2a antagonism.
amanitadine
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^^^ Ugh that sounds terrible, my condolences. 12.4 mg rectal is a MAMMOTH dose, at least for me. And 2C-E rectally I dont particularly like, comes up too fast, way too physical. and easily twice as strong as oral, which considering 2C-E's absurdly steep dose response curve, owwwww. What makes you not sure of its identity?(besides your stated anachronistic effetcs, which btw, for me, when I have a severe phen OD the effects ARE unstoppable, and do last for ages). Did this come to you via untrustworthies? That alone gives me a bad trip ;D
Hope you feel better
Hope you feel better
Jesusgreen
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Yes.
From Wiki:
Might need more than you do with diphenhydramine, but other than that, should work the same - or possibly better, as slower action = longer action.
amanitadine
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damn! 0 mg dimenhydrinate contains 27.2mg diphenhydramine? we could make a fortune....
SmokeNDose
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^^ Should read
My 1st trip was on 12mg 2C-I, and it was a mindfuck. Difficult trip, but I liked it.
Few days ago(and exactly one year after this experience - nice coincidence) I had my 11th trip, I took 18 mg 2C-E. The experience was pretty enjoyable, and manageable.
Too manageable for me. I feel like I developed something like a tolerance to psychedelics or like I become hardheaded. What can I do to get an intense trip? Take high dose, say, 25-28mg of 2C-E or 30-35mg of 2C-T-2? Try other compounds? I think about getting some 5-MeO-DMT and about smoking/IVing it.
What do you guys do when you want an intense experience?
Few days ago(and exactly one year after this experience - nice coincidence) I had my 11th trip, I took 18 mg 2C-E. The experience was pretty enjoyable, and manageable.
Too manageable for me. I feel like I developed something like a tolerance to psychedelics or like I become hardheaded. What can I do to get an intense trip? Take high dose, say, 25-28mg of 2C-E or 30-35mg of 2C-T-2? Try other compounds? I think about getting some 5-MeO-DMT and about smoking/IVing it.
What do you guys do when you want an intense experience?
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Take a break, try tripping in a different setting, etc.
sometimes the biggest swing in psychedelia will be noted when you are in a momentous change in your life-- nearing the end of a school career, or nearing the start of a long-term loving relationship, etc
there's only so far you can go in terms of "pretty colors". the real power of these drugs comes in their ability to manifest your subconscious desires or demons.
sometimes the biggest swing in psychedelia will be noted when you are in a momentous change in your life-- nearing the end of a school career, or nearing the start of a long-term loving relationship, etc
there's only so far you can go in terms of "pretty colors". the real power of these drugs comes in their ability to manifest your subconscious desires or demons.
Jblazingphoenix100
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^ such good advice.
Allium - how do you mean too manageable? Like, could your describe your trip - the visual, sensual and emotional qualities of the trip?
Allium - how do you mean too manageable? Like, could your describe your trip - the visual, sensual and emotional qualities of the trip?
My first 2C-E trip was on 16 mg, and I was hardly able to remember my name and who I am.
I would like my trip more like it, more intense. I would like to control my trip less.
English is not my native language, so it is quite hard to describe trips in it. But I will try.
Visuals were usual 2C-E visuals, they were a mess of colors and all visual field was distorting. When I looked out of the window in my room, trees and reflection of the room formed interior of an alien organism(but this is not an uncommon thing for me). And unfortunately, I didn't notice synesthesia.
As for the emotional part, right after taking the dose I was quite excited. However when I really started tripping, I became really anxious for ~40 minutes, and then I get into calm, somewhat euphoric, state, which lasted till the end of the trip.
Also, during the trip I remember the thing I read here, on BL, to think about bodyload as about energy flowing through your body. And it really felt like energy!
As you can see, the trip wasn't really deep and intense.
Just few words about my first 2C-E trip(I mentioned it in the beginning of this post)
It was really amazing, it was like a dream, and it felt like a cycle - I "woke up" few times during the trip with the same thought. I didn't remember this trip well, so I can't say what were this thought
My mental activity was very suppressed, so there weren't much thoughts in my head, however they all were really deep and useful. As for the visuals, I barely could see something behind them and synesthesia was very strong. And what I really like 2C-E for: it pushed me into really, really unusual and strange states. I felt boundaries between my body and other world, and, moreover, I felt boundaries between "me"(my ego) and my body, I sensed my body "foreign". Could it be called "disconnection from body"?
update:
I don't trip often, because I don't usually have good set'n'setting, and I didn't trip for 3 months before this trip.
I know it, but such significant events happen rarely. Everyday life is quite boring, actually.
I am thinking about it. But what does "different setting" mean? I never tripped outside rooms. I now have an idea to trip on God Is An Astronaut concert, because I often listen to their music while tripping, but it will happen only in February. I also think about walking outside, but not sure if it is a good thought - I don't like winter. What settings do you prefer?
I totally agree with you, but it seems that my subconscious is alright.
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any major dude
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if you're wanting a more intense trip there are several ways to go about it, the most obvious is to take more, but this is really a small part of the whole experience, and i'd recommend other methods first, or in conjunction with increasing dosage.
If you're going to be in your house, the old-school LSD psychotherapy method works great. Its basically just putting on some headphones with some good music. Traditionally they go with classical, but there are plenty of other routes to take in that regard. And wear eyeshades & just lay back on your couch. Or to quote John Lennon, "turn off your mind, relax, & float downstream"
If you're going to be in your house, the old-school LSD psychotherapy method works great. Its basically just putting on some headphones with some good music. Traditionally they go with classical, but there are plenty of other routes to take in that regard. And wear eyeshades & just lay back on your couch. Or to quote John Lennon, "turn off your mind, relax, & float downstream"
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