The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)
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Jblazingphoenix100
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Yeah, I would suggest sniffing 12mg snuggled up in bed, with some chill music- insanely quick comeup - blasting you into the chaotic mess of visuals and explosions of pre-orgasmic sensation coupled with an energy that feels like it needs to be released.
Once you've been peaking for a few hours I find it start to smack you with things you need to sort out - things you've been procrastinating with, things you've been suppressing, hitting you with different ways of looking at situations both past and present - seriously useful material, whilst still tripping your nut off.
If you've only done it in rooms, though, I would suggest taking this outside!! Trees, stars - I watched a shooting star storm for hours laying on my deck...well it was a shooting star storm to ME!
Once you've been peaking for a few hours I find it start to smack you with things you need to sort out - things you've been procrastinating with, things you've been suppressing, hitting you with different ways of looking at situations both past and present - seriously useful material, whilst still tripping your nut off.
If you've only done it in rooms, though, I would suggest taking this outside!! Trees, stars - I watched a shooting star storm for hours laying on my deck...well it was a shooting star storm to ME!
tastethealex
Bluelighter
I couldn't agree more. There was a moment I felt I was becoming addicted to Heroin. Although it was not an issue at the moment I could not get myself to stop doing it, yet, I could not figure out why I still was. And so, I turned to 2C-E. Although this was not exactly a "pleasant" trip, I was able to really asses what I was doing, realize that nothing but bad would come from continued use of heroin. I destroyed the last of what I had, told myself I would never go near it again and that I should come clean to those who are close to me that could help me make sure I didn't go back to it.
And I never have! it has now been over a year since this experience.
SmokeNDose
Bluelighter
^ Thats really good to hear. 2c-e has helped me get over being hung-up on a failed relationship and understand the girls point of view on it. I'v also found myself thinking, "Why are you tripping right now? You should be studying." Ahh, fuck school. Just 2-5 more years.
Thank you for your responses
However it didn't work this time, maybe because I used not headphones but stereosystem - not a great difference.
So how does compare plugging to sniffing?
That's how I spend my first 2C-E trip, I listened to math-rock and post-metal.
My eyes were closing automatically even if tried to keep it open
However it didn't work this time, maybe because I used not headphones but stereosystem - not a great difference.
Sounds like a good idea. I am going to try rectal administration. Also, I always wondered, why do nobody consider it gayish here?
Well, I don't own a scale, and I use liquid measuring for dosing. One time I tried dropping ~2ml of my 2C-I solution in my nose, and it was really painful for nostrils and throat.
So how does compare plugging to sniffing?
hmmmm so after 8-10 trips with 2c-e over the past few months I think I can safely say it is just not for me. Mainly its the nausea, I just cant get past it. I mean the first 2-3 trips I had on 2c-e were great, no nausea, some of the strongest phenethylamine visuals I've ever had, great introspective head space for getting some down and dirty work done. But over the past few months the negative side effects have been growing in intensity and regularity with every new trip I take on it. Started as just throwing up once and being done with it, but as I kept going back (and there were days if not weeks inbetween each trip) I found myself getting worse nausea each time. The second to last time I took it I vomitted 8 times before the nausea finally became manageable at around 3 hours in. Now I'm not uncomfterable with vomitting but I mean the level of nausea this compound produces is just ridiculous. Makes it totally not worth it IMO. And its not like I'm taking huge doses or anything, never less then 15 mg but never more then 30 in all my trips.
My latest ride on 2c-e I took the advice I've seen in this thread to try dramamine to reduce the nausea, and it did not work at all accept to say that I threw up only 3 times instead of 8... And maybe if it was just normal phenthylamine nausea, you know, feel sick for a few minutes, throw up and get it over with, that I could deal with all day, but its so much worse then that. I mean I legitmately feel like I've been poisoned the first two or three hours on 2c-e. Maybe if there was a euphoric push during the come up it would make it worth it, but theres not. I'll try rectal admin within the next few weeks to see if that helps but I really think thats my last shot at becoming friends with 2c-e. Which is a shame because it produces one of the most unique and interesting psychedelic states I've ever been apart of, but nothing is worth the nausea it produces.
My latest ride on 2c-e I took the advice I've seen in this thread to try dramamine to reduce the nausea, and it did not work at all accept to say that I threw up only 3 times instead of 8... And maybe if it was just normal phenthylamine nausea, you know, feel sick for a few minutes, throw up and get it over with, that I could deal with all day, but its so much worse then that. I mean I legitmately feel like I've been poisoned the first two or three hours on 2c-e. Maybe if there was a euphoric push during the come up it would make it worth it, but theres not. I'll try rectal admin within the next few weeks to see if that helps but I really think thats my last shot at becoming friends with 2c-e. Which is a shame because it produces one of the most unique and interesting psychedelic states I've ever been apart of, but nothing is worth the nausea it produces.
Jesusgreen
Bluelight Crew
Has anyone ever used 2C-E as a straight stimulant? I remember low nasal doses being very stimulating and not very psychedelic at all, so I definitely think this would be possible - and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with it, and if so, what kind of dosage did you use, and what ROA?
I'd just like to have a second use for it since I have like 750mg still and I'm not tripping very often, so I might as well have a secondary use for it.
I'd just like to have a second use for it since I have like 750mg still and I'm not tripping very often, so I might as well have a secondary use for it.
DwayneHoover
Bluelighter
if you're wanting a more intense trip there are several ways to go about it, the most obvious is to take more, but this is really a small part of the whole experience, and i'd recommend other methods first, or in conjunction with increasing dosage.
If you're going to be in your house, the old-school LSD psychotherapy method works great. Its basically just putting on some headphones with some good music. Traditionally they go with classical, but there are plenty of other routes to take in that regard. And wear eyeshades & just lay back on your couch. Or to quote John Lennon, "turn off your mind, relax, & float downstream"
VERY good advice. Closed eyes (or even better, open eyes looking out into 100% utterly dark room) with music... I prefer loudish music over big speakers, bass boost... the vibrations I feel with entire body seem to trigger more visuals and intense psychedelic mental processes... but headphones are great too but different, more "inward". Speakers feel more "in the world" and epic, and peak moments of psychedelic rock like YES those bass vibes can feel nearly orgasmic!!!
Another way for more intense trip is to try mushrooms with the temporary MAO-A inhibitor Syrian Rue seed, which gives a much more intense, more genuinely spiritual experience than shrooms alone... less of the shoom anxiety as well at least for most people. There is the sensation of an otherworldy "guide" in the air around you as well I and others find.
ON A TOTALLY EMPTY STOMACH: Take 3g (1 slightly heaping table teaspoon) Syrian Rue seeds, grind to a fine powder (using a coffee bean grinder is super easy... find em for 10-15$), ingest (powder on back of tongue in small 1/4tsp increments followed by a strong sweet juice chaser, OR mix with honey or peanut butter). Wait about 45 minutes till you fell a pleasant little buzz (the MAOI has taken effect) and then swallow 2g dried cubensis shroom powder. Enjoy.
Depressicaa
Bluelighter
^ Hey bro, good advice, but this is the 2CE thread, not the 'shroom thread. I don't know if the MAOIs are going to be exactly the same effect, but I assume it would play a similar role.
Yes, I've stated that it is my favorite ADD drug. It adds a desire to learn and the ability to learn without a normal 'grind' that amphetamines have.
Yes, I've stated that it is my favorite ADD drug. It adds a desire to learn and the ability to learn without a normal 'grind' that amphetamines have.
Whoa...weird usage hahaha
How much do you use and how?
Ive sampled sub 5mg and still got pronounced nausea...havn't tried with dipenhydramine or w.e, but ya...You have piqued my interest haha
tastethealex
Bluelighter
I seem to have come across the same nausea issues with 2Cs, I used to take fairly large doses, 40mg of 2C-E being my largest dose. I was just fine the whole trip, too. I tried various methods of ingestion to try to get around the nausea. after some trail an error with dosage levels and method of administration I found one that works!
if you want to try 2C-E again, this is what worked for me: 15mg dissolved into a 20oz drink (I have used both green tea and OJ) drink evenly over the course of about 30 minutes (maybe try over an hour if you want to play it safe). This will allow your stomach to more throughly breakdown and absorb the substance gradually, which in turn allows your body to easier adjust to the new state in which you will be in for the next few hours. not only did this help combat the nausea, but it also mellowed out the anxiety on the come up.
Al_S_Dee
Bluelighter
I get slight nausea but just enough to make me wanna sit down and chill until it hits me full force. Never puked on it. AMT, now that's a different story....
Depressicaa
Bluelighter
Moe, you do know about benedryl right?
I've used 5mg-10mg for ADD. It works wonders. It is always taken orally. A bit of magic is given to my activities, I never get as good visuals as everyone else, but I do get them a little bit. It doesn't bother me, and I've driven tripping, crashed once when I was coming down from it, due to being stupid, not the drug itself.
I've used 5mg-10mg for ADD. It works wonders. It is always taken orally. A bit of magic is given to my activities, I never get as good visuals as everyone else, but I do get them a little bit. It doesn't bother me, and I've driven tripping, crashed once when I was coming down from it, due to being stupid, not the drug itself.
Jesusgreen
Bluelight Crew
I forgot to add, 2C-E doesn't give me nausea anyway, so that won't be an issue for me. The thing is I want to get the perfect dosage so that the stimulation is there but so that there are no signs of a trip, as I think while 2C-E is usually clearheaded, it can still interfere a little if you're looking for straight stimulation.
tastethealex
Bluelighter
try starting around 5mg and working up from there, 10mg was a light trip where I was fully functional, easily able to go about my day (aside from eating), but I still experienced time dilation which sometimes made me have to double think what i was in the process of doing when i would move from room to room.
Depressicaa
Bluelighter
3-5 should do it!
Jesusgreen
Bluelight Crew
I think I'll try 3-5mg today, I'm most likely going to trip tonight so I think I'll take 3-5mg nasally an hour or so before my trip, then take another 40-50mg orally.
bob_arctor
Bluelighter
Jesusgreen: 40 mg will probably be extremely intense. I would never go over 30, and the same seems to go for my friends. As long as you know what you are doing.
Jesusgreen
Bluelight Crew
I've done up to around 50-55mg myself and I very much prefer the higher doses, I also actually notice less negative side effects and more of the enjoyable effects the higher I dose. Admittedly those doses were with a bit of tolerance so I assume this trip will be even stronger, but I'm all for crazy experiences.
Edit: In the end I snorted ~5mg around 3 hours ago, I'm still extremely stimulated and it did get a little trippy, I think the 6 week break from all drugs definitely threw my tolerance out the window. In the end I didn't dose more, but just enjoyed the stimulation, which I'm still doing now.
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