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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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Another great way to hold capsules... Take off one of your door stoppers... any size capsule fits in it and it can be angled.. as for getting the powder in there, I use a small flathead screwdriver...
 
love_sex_desire said:
A straw that is smaller in diameter than the single O gel is ideal, so the straw actually fits into the gel and decreases the chance of spillage. The material should be dosed on a clean dark surface so if there is minimal spillage, the spillage can be easily detected and retrieved.
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Thanks, the straw is a much better idea.
 
Are the 2c-x's a sticky powder? I'm just curious as I plan to most likely move the doses into the capsules using a piece of folded paper and want to know if I'm going to lose much of say a 10mg dose when transferring it via paper.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Are the 2c-x's a sticky powder? I'm just curious as I plan to most likely move the doses into the capsules using a piece of folded paper and want to know if I'm going to lose much of say a 10mg dose when transferring it via paper.
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I don't think you would lose more than maybe a mg. Its not a sticky powder and can be scrapped off quite easily.
 
The reason I ask this is because I'm basing it on 2c-p (although this is a 2c-e thread), with this specific 2c compound 1-2mg can make a dramatic difference on the potency of your trip. I think I will just stick with the 10mg dose however due to the suspected overdose at 16mg myth.
 
Ok with 2c-p it would probably make a big difference. Im just a little skeptical believing that 2 mg doubles the intensity of a 2c-e trip, like iv read a few times.
 
2C-E can be very dose-sensitive for some people (although 2C-P is a good 2-3 times more potent, it seems, so 2C-E is almost certainly *less* dose-sensitive). That said, adding an extra mg doesn't make you any more certain of how much powder has been lost transferring to pill form. It seems like a silly 'solution' to me. Speaking of solutions, though - liquid measuring is soooooo much easier than fucking with gelcaps.


Bagseed said:
i also snorted it a week ago, ~10mg divided into 4 bumps. there was a little pain while snorting but really not too bad. in fact, the taste was worse than the pain for me. btw is it normal to get bodyload and nausea from snorting? i heard that rectally administrated 2C-X give less to no bodyload/nausea and thought, that nasally would be pretty much the same. but me and my fellow trippers had that (not too intense, and it wen away after about 1-2hours and a little spliff smoked while laying down in the warm afternoon sun =D
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I got WAY more nausea and bodyload from snorting than I ever have with oral doses.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Are the 2c-x's a sticky powder? I'm just curious as I plan to most likely move the doses into the capsules using a piece of folded paper and want to know if I'm going to lose much of say a 10mg dose when transferring it via paper.
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2C's aren't particularly sticky, but they do clump. I've tried and witnessed many ways to fill gel capsules, including using folded paper and figure I should repeat the method that I find the easiest, as it is way easier than using folded paper or any other method I know of. Here is a "Filling Gel Capsules For Dummies" style step-by-step process for dosing out chems like 2C-E.

Cut a straw in half so it is about 4 inches long, or however long feels most comfortable (make sure it is long enough to reach the bottom of your baggie!). Cut one tip of the straw diagonally, so there is a scoop on one end. Either do this in your head if you can trust your math and memory, or write it down, just make sure you add correctly!

When dosing the 2C-E, first weigh out the capsule a few times. Once the weight of the capsule is confirmed, add the weight of the capsule to the weight of the intended dose of powder to calculate how much the capsule should weigh once the correct dose has been added.

Take the shorter top off of the capsule and place the shorter end on the table right side up and the longer part of the capsule upside down (so the rounded ends of both sides of the capsule are facing up so they don't roll off your surface).

With the bag of 2C-E laying on the surface (I don't waste a hand picking the baggie up), with one hand squeeze the sides of the bag to widen the opening of the bag and with the other hand use your straw to scoop out a bit of 2C-E and take the straw out of the bag, careful not to tip it or spill any powder (not hard to keep it steady actually).

With the other hand let go of the sides of the bag and pick up the larger end of the capsule and flip it so the opening end of the capsule is facing up. Hold the capsule with the open end facing upwards diagonally towards your hand that has the scoop of 2C-E in it. Put the scoop end of the straw all the way down into the capsule and once the scoop end is completely in the capsule dump the scoop. Hold on to the gel capsule, don't let it tip as it has 2C-E in it!

With your other hand put the straw down and pick up the smaller end of the capsule and connect the two ends of the capsule. Weigh it, and if there is a little too much, tap the gel capsule lightly into the baggie, and re-weigh it. If there is not enough add another scoop until the desired weight is found. Once the desired dose is found, re-weigh the capsule a few times to confirm the accurate dose shows up on your scale consitently.

It's fairly easy, sounds like a long process doing it step-by-step for dummies, but you get a good idea of the density of your 2C-E, or any other powder, pretty quickly. I can often get the desired amount in 2 scoops, and sometimes get it right on the first scoop, although sometimes a dose wants to either be 1 mg too much or too little, and when more is added or taken out it ends up being 1 mg too little or too much. Can get a bit frustrating when that happends, but this is definitely the fastest method for gelling out doses that I know of.
 
Sounds like a lot of work when insufflating it brings the effects on almost immediately. I did very small amounts about 30 minutes apart when i first did it, and it worked well and i had no burn at all. A small amount of discomfort maybe.

By the way, i'm tripping on it now, so it was nice to find this thread :)
 
I guess i'm spoiled because i've had this tray forever which easily fits into the gelcap. Plus I hate drinking solutions.
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yeah I have that same scale and tray - the problem is the stupid indentation in the tray... powder gets stuck there all the time...
 
This is the now

The fucking tv behind me has the sound phasing and flanging and it is hardcore as shit. I haven't had distance influenced perceptual disturbances like this until now. Man this shit is so weird compared to acid. WTF is alteril yellow shit on tv. 2C-E is weird I don't know how to deal with only like half assed psychadelics. I mean I know this is strong but I am still able to function. I know perfectly well what is going on but man, frizzied. Very weird. When I take LSD and live, its like always there, this is functionable. Jk I am tripping. I guess this is the peak. So weird. I snorted atleast 5 mg if not upwards of 10, I just don't understand why this isn't kicking my ass like everyone says it will. Not really wanting too, just would like to be immersed without my consent and it won't do it. Maybe I have to do it. Sigh.

I just want someone to be tripping and read this. Call it loneliness, I am watching this weird ass pitball show on tv behind me. Not really because it sucks and I hate pitbulls. Anyway. Time to watch guppies fight over female.

Certainly sounds like I am tripping reading this. Must think about it more I guess.
 
Man you must be tripping, your post sounds like a rant overheard from a locked rubber room at the asylum.

And what the fuck are you doing exposing yourself to PITBULL FIGHTS !!?? while tripping? Are you TRYING to deliberately induce PTSD in yourself?

Get the hell out of wherever you are, put on some good tunes - NOT wanky tweaky techno... though good techno like Orbital can be cool... spacey ambient or epic trippy psychedelic or something else skillfully composed on the headphones, lie down and close your eyes for a couple hours.
 
DwayneHoover said:
Man you must be tripping, your post sounds like a rant overheard from a locked rubber room at the asylum.

And what the fuck are you doing exposing yourself to PITBULL FIGHTS !!?? while tripping? Are you TRYING to deliberately induce PTSD in yourself?

Get the hell out of wherever you are, put on some good tunes - NOT wanky tweaky techno... though good techno like Orbital can be cool... spacey ambient or epic trippy psychedelic or something else skillfully composed on the headphones, lie down and close your eyes for a couple hours.
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Hah dude you can do no worse than watching green mile on mescaline. It wasn't pitbull fights though it was like some shit where I think it was called pitbulls and parolees or something. Great idea for a show. Not.

Anyways, I am railing electricity basically right now and I can still type and change channels and probably do everything reasonable (will not drive, etc) but damn I just want to go open eye visuals to the max. I pulled an all nighter last night and should be tripping real hard now. But darkness and music soon.
 
2C-E visuals I noted: moderate tracers, intensified colors, wiggly outlines, shifting colors... the best visuals came from staring totally fixed at one point on some object or any where really for a minute or two then quickly looking at a blank wall or if none around a blank piece of paper or whatever and seeing a VERY vivid afterimage that then would start color shifting like crazy and the shapes would last FAR longer than normal afterimages then start to morph and transform not to random stuff but into other recognizable objects in some cases multiple times.

Another of the unique effects it has on me is "fractal, involuted though-chains" in which I am thinking about A, which branches off to an aside about B, which branches off to an aside about C, etc etc many more times... then it unwinds in reverse ...C finishes, then B then A. It all felt like an hour had gone by, but the clock said only 10minutes. Wild and pretty damn fun.

But I don't think you're gonna get classic psychedelic open-eye visuals like pulsating neon patterns covering everything, or undulating walls and floors, or sudden floating angry Tiki Heads. Only LSD and shrooms ever did that stuff to me. That's why they're "classic"... and I done LOTS of RC (though always pretty reasonable doses, and nothing from the DOx class yet, and not yet smoked nnDMT).
 
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