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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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I would say something like LSD or mescaline or mushrooms would be a better choice. However, 2C-E might work, but it's not my best recommendation for a first psychedelic. 2C-T-2 could also be a fantastic therapeutic substance for him... it's directed positively and seems to be great at laying your own mind out before you and helping you understand how to use it better. It helped me out of a depression for sure. 2C-E's thing is that it's a very neutral substance... you have to direct it yourself, and that can be hard for a beginner, especially a beginner who's depressed.
 
Xorkoth said:
I would say something like LSD or mescaline or mushrooms would be a better choice. However, 2C-E might work, but it's not my best recommendation for a first psychedelic. 2C-T-2 could also be a fantastic therapeutic substance for him... it's directed positively and seems to be great at laying your own mind out before you and helping you understand how to use it better. It helped me out of a depression for sure. 2C-E's thing is that it's a very neutral substance... you have to direct it yourself, and that can be hard for a beginner, especially a beginner who's depressed.
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Thank you very much on your input. I will take your advice. :D


on the other hand...


When on 2c-e, are the jaw clench, eye dialation and other side effects very noticeable? I think a nice day out on a public beach with dunes and such would seem gorgeous, i just dont like people looking at me like im an alien.
 
Don't worry I've been on high doses of 2ce and while I think everything is going hectic, people who are talking to me are merging with the surroundings XD they can't tell at all. And judging from friends you just look really sober on 2c-e, no one can tell I'm tripping unless I tell them. The beach would be nice on 2ce I imagine.
 
I've found the same. The only really noticeable difference is pupil dilation, which I only experience at high doses, and even then it isn't comparable to the extreme dilation caused by say DXM.
 
.Felix. said:
Thank you very much on your input. I will take your advice. :D


on the other hand...


When on 2c-e, are the jaw clench, eye dialation and other side effects very noticeable? I think a nice day out on a public beach with dunes and such would seem gorgeous, i just dont like people looking at me like im an alien.
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I've never had anyone realize i was on 2c-e unless I told them. Many times I've thought people could tell, but it was just me being slightly paranoid. The beach does sound like a fun idea
 
How much should someone who hasn't tried 2C-E have on their first dosage?

I was reading that a dose of 10mg-15mg oral would be sufficient? I was going to go with 12mg after reading how Shulgin flipped on 15mg...
 
do 8mg insufflated - it's grrrrreat! did that on my first ever dose of 2C-x insufflated (tried 2C-B once - oral..weak) and it blew me away..I dont like higher doses sniffed though..no higher at all 8mg seems to be very sweet for me.
 
I was wondering, how do 2c-e & marijuana go together? Does the 2c-e part become more recreational and less insightful? What about the change in body load?
 
^ I always have a tiny bit of weed to get rid of the uncomfortable body load. Works a charm and I notice no real change in the 2c-e experience. I also find N2O gets rid of the uncomfortable body load as well *shrugs*
 
ooohh I need to try this when Im back on psychs...

I've never found 2C-E's bodyload not nice, I like it, wave after wave of intense sensations, almost body orgasms, bursts of potential energy building up to explode...good stuff :D although can make you feel abit heavy, but wouldn't say that's bad per se...just not a party drug so much...
 
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I always smoke weed on 2C-E. It helps me deal with the, eh, neutral discomfort (hardly dysphoria) I always experience when coming up and through the first hour or so of my plateau. It won't slow your mind or dull the effects of 2C-E at all, and for me results in a quite nice euphoria, something 2C-E always seems to have the potential to provide on some not immediately apparent level. Cannabis unlocks it for me.
 
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do 8mg insufflated - it's grrrrreat! did that on my first ever dose of 2C-x insufflated (tried 2C-B once - oral..weak) and it blew me away..I dont like higher doses sniffed though..no higher at all 8mg seems to be very sweet for me.
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Considering this is his first dose, I think recommending he snort it is not wise at all.
2c-e insufflated is not grrrrrreat, it fucking hurrrrrrts :\
 
Insufflating is such a bad rout of administration IMHO, do people don't care about ther nasal septum? I can not find any particular urge to snort any substance, but to each his own of course,.. hey maybe I am missing something magnificent :-)
Anyway 2c-e has been slightly dysphoric for everone I know of that has tried it, including myself. But since I realised how well 2c-i solves this problem, this combination has led to many revelating euphoric experiences.
If one is rather searching for answers on spiritual crisis I suggest meditation on 2c-e alone. I find the lack of euphoria is an enormous help when one is trying to reach clarity and a peacful mind.
 
Does anyone else get VERY few mental effects at doses up to 20mg? Is it likely that more is necessary to have a REAL trip? I've done 10mg, 12mg, 15mg, and 20mg. None of them have altered anything but my senses.
 
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Be careful trying this one with a significant other ... staring into my girlfriend's eyes, her face would break into sharp geometric shapes, which would then twist into weird contortions that looked like some creepy, evil mask.
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Well last time I did it with my girlfriend we had some sex and she came so hard she almost fainted. Actually asked me to stop because it was too intense. And I'm no casinova or anything. Just thought I'd share/boast ;)
 
Haha, my girlfriend flipped the fuck out because she was kissing me (on 2C-E) and when she pulled back, I had a massive beak like an eagle!

vaguely related: on acid that same girlfriends face turned into my moms, likely because they have somewhat similar personalities. It was kinda fucking strange.
 
nearjat said:
Does anyone else get VERY few mental effects at doses up to 20mg? Is it likely that more is necessary to have a REAL trip? I've done 10mg, 12mg, 15mg, and 20mg. None of them have altered anything but my senses.
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Quite the opposite here, it's less sensual and more mental than I expected in doses up to 20-22mg. It pretty much evens out after that but the body load gets pretty bad.
 
Another question I have (not sure if it was stated here) but does 2c-e give that sinister feel like on acid??
 
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