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The Big & Dandy 2C-D Thread

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~35mg of 2CD plugged had a VERY fast onset! Check out my TR titled something like "Tent Blanky Fort Shelter" or something like that. It is a rocket ride plugged!

My main reason next time I take it I will try it orally. I think it has a LOT of potential, but phens usually are best oral.
 
djfriendly said:
I don't get the bad rap the 2C-halogens have been taking lately. 2C-C is amazing stuff.
I for one definately have no issues with 2C-halogens. 2C-I is one of my favourite phens I've tried. I've also tried 2C-C a couple of times, but my experiences with it weren't so dandy. First of all, when I first tried it, I took like 40mg (or was it 60mg? I forget) orally, and contrary to what was expected, I experienced some mighty intense nausea and vomiting. It was actually worse than 2C-E in that aspect for me, which kinda caught me off guard. Once the nausea finally subsided, I rather enjoyed the trip, but it was very mellow and had nothing on 2C-I in my book. The second time I used it rectally in order to avoid the nausea (I forget the dosage), and it worked well, the trip was nice but still nothing spectacular. I suppose it's just not really my kind of substance, huh? The remaining 2C-C I had left I combined with a lowish dose of 2C-E (both rectally), and had a great time. 2C-C really seemed to intensify the visuals of 2C-E while making it much more forgiving. A worthwhile combination IMO (although one shouldn't really make a verdict after a single trial I guess).

samadhi_smiles said:
My main reason next time I take it I will try it orally. I think it has a LOT of potential, but phens usually are best oral.
I agree with regards to pharmacodynamics, but for some substances rectal administration goes a long way towards alleviating the GI discomfort.
 
^ definitely agree with your last point, but remember some chemicals like 2CT7 for instance you may still get nausea (even worse nausea) plugging it. My +3 trip on rectal t7 I puked so hard I bruised my anal sphincter muscle! =D
 
samadhi_smiles said:
~35mg of 2CD plugged had a VERY fast onset...It is a rocket ride plugged!

Hrm. See, this I think I would prefer to avoid, much as I like the idea of saving material. I had hoped that the relatively gentle onset of 2C-D might make this less of an issue. I wonder whether or not 13-20mg, which is half of my typical oral dose, might be more easily "absorbed," and if not, whether perhaps the dose could be titrated over time.
 
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Recept said:
I've also tried 2C-C a couple of times, but my experiences with it weren't so dandy. First of all, when I first tried it, I took like 40mg (or was it 60mg? I forget) orally, and contrary to what was expected, I experienced some mighty intense nausea and vomiting. It was actually worse than 2C-E in that aspect for me, which kinda caught me off guard.

Most people I've known have been quite happy with 2C-C doses in the low to mid 30's. I consider it a drug to be taken in a comfortable place and close to a bathroom. :) But I've also found that sensation in the stomach area can be amplified in weird ways by 2C-C, which can be mistakenly interpreted as nausea. My stomach and I actually came to a mutual agreement when we were on this substance once - something along the lines of "I was more than happy to help it expel its contents, but all it really wanted was my permission as there was nothing to give." Since then I have enjoyed a freshly delivered pizza and red wine after coming off of the peak of 2C-C. :)

Sorry for the off-topic, back to 2C-D (which can also induce wonderful eating experiences after its peak)...
 
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^ hehe, djfriendly, that last bit made me chuckle. i certainly had a wonderful eating experience after the peak! i found it surprising just how hungry i was; i actually ate quite alot.

i should also mention that i didn't feel the nootropic effects during the peak very much (this may be because i had smoked a bit of cannabis & drank some jasmin green tea), but after wards i certainly did! even today, i still feel much more clear headed. i was surprised - after the peak i spent alot of the trip pretty much just reading. (i took roughly 50mg, roughly because the method of storing the doses was a bit experimental)

2c-d put me in touch with my "inner reading voice"... i.e. the voice in my mind that recites & processes what i'm reading, if that makes any sense....
 
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I just LOVE eating after the peak of a mushroom trip, but I usually tend to smoke quite the amount of weed right after the peak is over, so that might have something to do with it.

The lingering "clearheadedness" is common with many psychedelics. I think it has to be a low dose for the effects to actually be considered nootropic - once the psychedelia starts, it does no longer count as that IMO - but that could merely be an issue of semantics. I don't know, I probably shouldn't be this active in this thread - I haven't even tried 2C-D yet!
 
With respect to the nootropic effects of 2C-D... I find that it is nootropic at very small, sub-psychedelic doses. Actually, 2C-E is as well, except any dose of 2C-E comes along with some psychedelia, whereas a small dose of 2C-D will be pretty transparent.
 
djfriendly said:
Hrm. See, this I think I would prefer to avoid, much as I like the idea of saving material. I had hoped that the relatively gentle onset of 2C-D might make this less of an issue. I wonder whether or not 13-20mg, which is half of my typical oral dose, might be more easily "absorbed," and if not, whether perhaps the dose could be titrated over time.
hey DJFriendly, you can stagger your dose, which keeps the peak plasma level down but will still save a MASSIVE amount of material. Some people think 2CD is almost 3x as potent rectally as orally (which differs from other 2Cs which are around 2x as potent).

I've done the staggering dose thing with 2CE and it worked really well. Fastandbulbous has some good comments he gave me last year about doing that I'll try to dig up and quote here for ya.

Basically the idea is to set a one hour window where you dose yourself every 15 minutes or so (you'll be slightly tripping by the second dose and by the last dose you'll be ALMOST where you'll be for the rest of the peak). This has the added benefit of lengthening the experience too.

I'll try to remember to look for his comments, peace,
samadhi<3
 
here it is:
the mythical and elusive fastandbulbous circa 2007 said:
Although rectal admin is much faster in it's onset, 15 mins might be jumping the gun a bit. I'd say 20-25 mins should be a much better indicator (although this reduces the number of times you can add to the original dose). After an hour, additional doses are not going to do anything but extend the length of the trip, so if you haven't got where you wanted with the 2nd additional dose (3rd dose including the original starting dose), you'll just habve to wait until another time.

As for the doses, 8mg rectally would be equivalent to about 16mg orally, but as it comes on quicker, this might be a tad uncomfortable. Maybe better if you went, 0:00-6mg; t+00:20 5mg t+00:45 2-4mg as this will reduce the body load (if you usually suffer from body load or onset anxiety with oral use, be prepared for possible unpleasantness from rectal dosing. Don't go for the IM route with this compound as if it's getting too much you can always wash out your colon with water to prevent any more drug getting into your system - this isn't an option with IM.

If possible have some benzos (fast avting pref, like Xanax) on standby if using such a fast route of administration as if things go sideways with this drug via this route, it can become extremely overwhelming in a matter of minutes and happen so fast that a trip sitter has difficulty being able to talk you down into a calmer space.

At all times, proceed with the utmost caution if you decide to use this method

note his advice was to a question of mine about staggering rectal 2CE, not 2CD. The pharmacodynamics of 2CD will be different than 2CE (2CD will come on much faster similar to 2CB it will take closer to 5-12 minutes to feel first effects if youhave a clean lower GI tract).

peace,
samadhi<3
 
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^ A clean lower GI tract is pretty much a requirement for rectal admin unless you want to waste some of your material. :)
 
definitely, I've put some methylone in some poop before, it sucked. I stuck the squirter up my butt and when I pulled it out I had a 'brown coat' on it. I waited 15 minutes....30 minutes...nothing! (usually takes 15 minutes to come up on rectal methylone). I thought this is LAME!

I started massaging my lower GI and doing shoulderstand and rolling on my back. BOOM! 5 minutes later it hit me! happy ending to that story :)
 
Snorting 2C-D (not a trip report - just a warning)

I snorted 20mg of 99%+ 2C-D as an experiment. Just to see since this was one of the weaker ones on the nostrils. My nose was a but cingested but it is definitely now now an after after snoerting.

Effects came on in minutes and were amphetamine like rather than BLLAARRGHMUNT sit on a couch like 2C-B can be. Alot of mixed thoughts and connections that didnt quite fit.

Even though this is a short lasting psychedelic. I snorted it an hour ago, and all effects are gone besides a "hot head" My body temperature (including forehead) seems the same so I would guess its a sinus issue? I feel similar feelings when I get hayfever.

Bout to smoke some indiica to see if it helps kick anything back in but it was quite subtle. But I do blame that on having snot up my nose and taking it in about 6 lines so I wouldnt sneeze. Had a 5mg valium but didnt need it. I'm just a benzo whore and it was feeling "that time"

Just a warning. Its more short lived than 2C-B when snorted and doesn't hurt the nose as much, I could see someone sitting there snorting 20-30mg every hour.. and i reckon it would lead to somewhere not pretty, and not just mentally wise.

Stay safe
 
Not sure how much this might have for legs when it comes to discussion, but we'll give it a shot. 2C-? sounds like PD material, though the mods will correct me if I'm wrong (again) and perhaps push it to DC?

ANON to PD
 
5mg uppa da shnozzle - contrary to allexpectations - had a champion consumer looking at the spinning stars in silence for 3 hours - hmm, its abit psychedelic...oh-oh, i think ill go on the roof - oh-oh, hope i can make it - all he said, onset less than 1 minute,2 to full effects. now i know how to make people stop talking ;-)
 
I have enjoyed snorting 5mg doses of it... I found it to be a great euphoria producer and nootropic. Although it was more utilitarian when taken orally.
 
To be merged wirth: The Big and Dandy 2C-D Thread Please (link inside)

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=111481&page=9 [Note: page 9 on normal settings of mposts per page]

2C-D at 55 was pretty damn weak for a psychedelic in my opinion. After reading the reports of 40mg making people think its insane, I found it less psychedelic (besides the peripheral movement 2C-B like) than the mijndstate than the normal dose of 130mg of MDMA puts me into.

It definitely was tofu, without even a side salad.


A friend ingest 55mg, got same effects, slept, waited, did 55mg again and snorted 20mg... Never really got much of a psychedelic effect. Sounds shit. This was from a good source, not some dealer or dodgey BLer
 
a 80 mg didn't impress me much as well. some empathogenic feelings and light optical effects. next time i'll go for 150 mg, I think.

PS: I didn't notice any stimulation; actually, I've found all 2C-X I've tried yet (B, C, D, TFM) more or less sedating.
 
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