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The Big & Dandy 2C-D Thread

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^ Any comments that I've posted in the past were fact then but not now.

For some reason our opiate useage affected 2CD very significantly allowing my missus & myself to consume what I would now consider a stupidly high dosage.

50 mgs ought to be fine ,see what you think & make your own adjustments after that.


Have fun :)
 
you weren't the only one i was referring to here, sir. :P you're certainly a factor in me being so excited, though! you & your piping loud about 2c-d...
 
I've found that 2C-D, by itself, is almost always pretty disappointing. However, when combined with basically ANY other drug, it becomes almost magical. In fact, one of the most intensely awesomely euphoric experiences I've ever had was 2C-D + heroin + cannabis.

I don't know what it is about this stuff, but I've just never really been impressed with it by itself; but it seems to be just about the best drug that exists for mixing with other drugs (and not just other psychedelics. I've found its awesome to mix with many different types of drugs. My favorites to mix it with are dexedrine, heroin , and weed). Strange stuff in a way; maybe I just react oddly to it?

Normally I never mix other drugs with psychedelics (except weed and other psychedelics of course), but I go all out with this shit.
 
FGH, you won't need as much as zophiecutekittie does. He is erm...special lol =D

50mg orally will be a good trip. I bet a full strong +3.

Otherwise you could plug that 50mg but it might be REALLY STRONG. If you plug it then I recommend you do it indoors in a very safe setting as all you want to do is writhe around in ecstasy.
 
4mg? That is a very small dose of 2CD. It must be very mild for you (mood enhancement I could see at that level definitely) or you are very sensitive.
 
I am indeed VERY sensitive
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I'll say. :) No need to be so defensive, I'd think you'd agree that the way you worded it in the first post lent itself to skepticism. People toss out bullshit numbers on these forums all the time, and I think it's in all our best interests to keep things clear.

really....probably 4mg....1st alert at 90 minutes....tv and computer had....depth...could really concentrate........this would be great for programming.....
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Well that sounds about right, just a bit less effect than I got from 10mg. Enjoy the 2C-D! If you're similarly sensitive as I to 2C-D, may I suggest that 26mg can produce a pretty full experience. 40mg didn't seem to be much more intense than 26mg. I've been enjoying the low doses so much that I haven't got around to trying >50mg yet.
 
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I'm pretty sure my next try will be with a 25-30mg rectal dose to compare the relative potency. I typically prefer oral admin for psychedelics, but the dosages for this one certainly invite thrift, and I find the 2C-D comeup to be on the gentler side, comparitively.
 
I've been wishing to try this one for quite some time now, I'm not big on PEAs, but I have a feeling this one will be awesome for me. If I can get my hands on it somehow :! No, make it when I can get my hands on it =D
 
it's SO much better than B/I... so much! my biggest qualm is the short duration. oh 2c-d, you big tease you...

& strangely enough, i also saw color-by-numbers vision when i was tripping! but only in the dark.
 
^ What's a color-by-numbers vision? :)

Anyway, I'm sure it's better than 2C-I and 2C-B at least when it comes to depth. It appears to be widely accepted, that 4-alkyl 2C-x are more capable to produce true psychedelic effects while 4-halogen 2C-x appear to be more recreational and less serious in nature. Going by my personal experience and observations, in terms of psychedelic depth, it should go something like this:

2C-C -> 2C-B -> 2C-I -> 2C-D -> 2C-E -> 2C-P

I agree, that the short duration of 2C-D is most appealing. It is the only psychedelic PEA (at least that I can think of at the moment) that can last under 4 hours. Definately a big plus for a psychedelic (although long-lasting psychs can become handy at times). Also I'm fairly interested in trying it out for it's nootropic properties. I also find very interesting that it has been implicated as a good agent for prolonging other psychedelics.
 
for an explanation of the color-by-numbers phenomenon with 2c-d, see djfriendly's & jamshyd's posts on this & the last page.

i rather enjoy long duration in a material when i have the time for it - lends me more precious time in psychedelic airspace. sometimes i desperately need that prolonged exposure, a la LSD.
 
Ah yes, that phenomenon, I had read the above discussion but didn't make the connection at first, very fascinating indeed.

With long-lasting psychedelics, I find that the main downside is feeling extremely mentally exhausting at the tail end of the trip but unable to sleep due to lingering stimulation. This is actually pretty much the only negative for LSD for me. The upside, OTOH, is that the come-up tends to be smoother, which means less initial anxiety (which as we all know can affect the nature of the whole experience quite a bit). Duration-wise, my favourite psychedelic is mushrooms - I always feel most awesome when coming down from them. Coming up tends to be quite the rough ride sometimes, however. Anyway, sorry to go off-topic.

How does coming up on 2C-D feel BTW? Can it be as rough as, say, mushrooms?
 
i know this question is HIGHLY subjective but, i would like to have a 2c-d experience that borders on the intense side (have not sampled it before) i feel that certain 2c-x chems have a much greater capacity to terrify at high doses (2c-e) where as others allow you to jump into the deep with a similar but more intense head space. (2c-b, 2c-t-21) I'm thinking 35mg insufflated, assuming that insufflation only makes it about 20% stronger, or does it make it 100% stronger as it does with 2c-e, and 2c-b?
 
I'm not sure about 2C-D, but the bioavailability for most 2C-x compounds is GREATLY enhanced when used nasally or rectally (as opposed to orally), closer to 100% as you mentioned. I'd imagine 2C-D is no exception, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure it's the best idea to insufflate a short-acting psychedelic such as 2C-D, though, because increased pharmacodynamics might make the come-up phase way overwhelming that way. Depends highly on the subject though I guess, I for one find rocket rides to the psychedelic space bit uncomfortable and anxiety-inducing, but YMMV of course.
 
yes i suppose i am in the minority who enjoys the rocket ride (with phens at least) i also think that ambushing the 5HT receptors which a sudden increase in blood plasma levels creates an experience that is both more visually and psychologically interesting. so perhaps 25mg would be a bit more reasonable. but then again maybe its time to loose my anal flower, 2c-d seems like a prime candidate for rectal admin.
 
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How does coming up on 2C-D feel BTW? Can it be as rough as, say, mushrooms?
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I've only taken it up to about 40mg, but I've found it a comparatively benign onset. That said, I have had a couple difficult transition, but nothing that I'd compare to mushrooms.

I don't get the bad rap the 2C-halogens have been taking lately. 2C-C is amazing stuff. And while my experience with 2C-B by itself was weird enough not to pursue it further, it sure does go down a treat after MDMA, whereas the few times we've tried using 2C-D in that manner, we pretty much just fell asleep.
 
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