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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 2

Tried 2cb for the first time on NYE. I didnt know I was taking it.. which i completely blame myself for. I was previously taking mdma and somehow the 2cb got mixed up in the situation. As soon as it kicked in i could tell that it was not mdma. Very much like an LSD high but not as intense. Obviously being given the wrong shit put me into a strange place mentally. I went and sat in my car while people were still partying. I turned the heat and radio on and was bouncing back and forth between positive and negative thoughts. It seem liked every 5 minutes my mind did a 180. The visuals were absolutely insane!!!! I have tripped many of times and have never had visuals like this. Just close your eyes and you see some very interesting stuff. I kept seeing a cheap lil garden windmill for some reason. haha. Not a bad drug. The shitty thing is someone could easily have a bad time on it. Til next time :)
 
I found that plugging diminishes the uncomfortable bodyload of 2c-b. Just lower your dosage respectively.
For me it was ~20mg oral/15mg plugged but I am pretty skinny and react sensitive to psychs and empathogenes.
 
So I took roughly 30mg 2c-b mixed with mxe the past two weekends. Once indoors by myself, once outdoors with my brother. Two completly different experiences (duh).

First I started with a 20mg oral dose of mxe to set "trip mode". Two hours later I plugged about 9mg 2c-b. My only note from that night is an hour later and says "horny, thats about it. Notice 2cx sig. 4 sure!"....haha

I remember I had been sitting down trying to meditate and started getting so stimulated I had to get up and start messing around on computer. First non mxe/tryptamine experience in a few years. Somehow I forgot/wasn't prepared for the overly stimulating aspect of it (previous experience with 2c-c, 2c-e, 2c-i, and tma-6... been a while though. Just forgot I guess).

An hour after dosing 2c-b I take 20mg 2c-b and 20mg mxe plugged. Should have double or trippled the mxe. Was trying to lay down and listen to music but was so fucking stimulated. It was intense in a weird way. Headspace was almost normal, but I could see how 2c-b could turn into a serious headfuck. At the peak it's almost like it flipped and was like "this is what I could be, just double your dose and come play with meeeeeeeeee". I dunno if I can take that much stimulation though. Maybe one day ;-).

Hour and a half after redose I orally dosed 50mg mxe in an attempt to level out. Was not digging the stimulion. Was just feeling weird overall. Dunno how to explain it. I guess I had one thing on my mind and the trip ended up being another completely and I couldn't mesh the two. Wanted to plug the mxe, but could barely manage to weigh it and eat and get back in bed with lights out and headphones in. Just felt weird and wasn't likeing it.

As soon as the mxe kicked in I wanted to take more 2c-b as it was fading and I felt that warm comfy mxe blanket. It was like 5AM and for once I decided to not be a complete idiot and took some etiz and went to sleep.

Fast forward a week and I am at my brothers. We are set to go hiking in the forest nearby. Take about 10mg mxe to set level of sorts Meditate then yoga for 1 1/2 -2 hours. Eat, shower, get everything set to go. Go plug about 18mg 2c-b and 15mg mxe.

Something to keep in mind is that my brother doesn't know I'm tripping. Well, at least it's not out in the open. I remember at one we looked eachother in the eye and by his reaction I KNOW he saw the size of my pupils. (was wearing sunglasses most of the day otherwise). He knows my drugs history and my love for/use of psychedelics. I have had some seemingly extremely negative consequences due to my psycedelic usage, and ostensibly my family considers me "clean" at this point. I used to smoke weed 24/7 for years and was alwayssss fucked up, so in some regards I am. After all the super fucked shit that has happened due to me taking psychs, the assume that there is just no way I would do them again. (Well, they want to believe that and who am I to ruin their illusion)

Anyway... we drive maybe 10 minutes to the trailhead. Take another 10mg mxe orally. Starting to feel "something" for sure. We pull up and there are a few people there. We get out and immediatly go the opposite direction of the people to get away from them... theme of the day... haha. Hike about an hour or so until we get to the boundary of a state park with a few options on ways to go. We hear people one way, so go down the "closed trail" trail that is overgrown. hahah.

During the one hour initial hike, it seemed to last forever and be over in a minute at the same time. I swear my brother was half tripping because of me. He was doing weird shit and seemed sort of confused. At one point he is like "I think there are people following us". I feel a weird connection to him, and keep thinking of xorkoth saying while doing mxe in groups there is always a group vibe/trip. Except he was sober.

I've noticed tripping around people sometimes they seem to catch a little bit of my vibe. Was on mushrooms one fourth of july swear during an intense part of the trip I notice my female cousin and aunt just feeling weird as fuck. Like they don't even notice, but I could tell they were like "what the fuck is going on"

I was close to just being like "yo I'm tripping dude, I think it's rubbing off on you". It was kinda too intense at that point though, if he would have freaked out it wouldn't have turned out well I don't think. I remember just backing up a ways from him, doing a white light protection/visualization around both of us. Imagine a connection between both of our hearts, asked for assistance having a beautiful and awesome day, and after that, it was!

It took us like 2 hours to go mayyyybe .5 miles down the overgrown trail. It wasn't really that overgrown, we basically just fucked off and my brother "cleared" it with this machete he just bought. Honestly, it was like we were little kids playing in the woods again. I just felt fucking superb and connected with everything. It was a beautiful, sunny, 65 degree day. For that period it was like we both just zoned out. I just watched him sit there and chop and shit, getting out aggression, frustration, fears, what not. Dunno, it was really weird and awesome.

Make it to the end of that section of trail... and there were like 50 fucking people walking down a trail in the distance. It felt like I was at the mall outside. It weirded me the fuck out, and my brother wasn't having any of it either. We just turned around and went back the way we came.

We basically just fucked around in the woods for 6 hours or so. Maybe went 3 miles... lol. It was basically like we were kids just walking around and whatnot. At one point he is trying to clear some trail/make his own... and a fucking family comes waltzing like 50 feet away. We were right next to the actual trail and whatnot just didn't realize it. He is more paranoid than me and is hiding the machete in the leaves and shit. Probably not a half bad idea, we probably looked really weird just sitting there "making a trail" like 50 feet from the actual trail...

I ended up dosing another 10mg 2c-b orally maybe 2 1/2 hours after my intitial dose. Another 20mg mxe orally 45 min-hr after that. The 2c-b was fading faster than I wanted it to, my booster just picked it up where it was at and carried me another few hours. At one point I sat down on the trail and meditated for 5-10 minutes. Was getting some closed eye visuals/scenes. Pretty nifty.

It seemed like everywhere I stopped and looked, there were little mushrooms growing. Wish I had my camera, wonder what type they were. kinda like a reminder. My first trip in a few years was back in october on some pan cyans I picked in a local field. It's like they were just saying "hey, don't forget about us!"

I kept debating on whether to say to my brother "Hey, we've been having an awesome time huh, well I've been tripping". It's hard to sit there and have a conversation about honesty with him while I'm not being truthful... I dunno. It's not like he would tell me to fuck off and not chill with me, but I dunno if he would go with me tripping. I dunno... it's a conundrum and it will probably bite me in the ass one day (yet again), but whatever.

The difference between this chemical inside/outside are night and day. I think next time I would prefer a 25mg oral dose with a 15mg booster to take 1 1/2 -2 hour after initial dose. It's just too short plugged for a day out hiking or whatnot. I have the HBR not HCl by the way.
 
Just wondering if anyone can tell me whether if I take 2cb tomorrow morning, will it interfere with the effects of LSD and MDMA that night? Roughly 12 hours between the 2cb and the candyflip

When I go to psy trance festivals I'm usually taking psychedelics on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

It's usually Acid on the Friday, and then some kind of 2c on the Saturday and Sunday. It's been 2c-b on quite a few occasions.

From memory there is usually little if any 2cb tolerance on the Saturday, but by the Sunday there is usually a little. This probably involved multiple redoses.
 
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I had ~27mg orally and it was an amazing experience, but I found the OEVs to be a bit lacking, similar to ~150ug of LSD. Some rough nausea on the comeup, but no body load at all during the trip. It was fairly short but it was well worth it.

5 days later I tried ~40mg, the visuals weren't that amazing as I expected them to be, and the euphoria was a bit lacking too, probably due to the tolerance. There was some vomiting on the comeup (on a totally empty stomatch I vomit even on LSD, it sucks) and again, no body load even at 40mg.

So, I'm planning to plug it without a tolerance, maybe 30mg, but that seems bit high. Any advice on the plugging dosage?
 
I know the 2Cs have a steep dose-response curve but it seems ridiculous that 5mg would make the different of tripping hard to not tripping at all.

that's pretty much what i experience with 2c-b. 30 mg is the borderline between tripping and not tripping for me. i have had strong trips at 30 mg, and lackluster ones at the same dose. 25 mg was basically a dud, while 35 mg is almost guaranteed to produce a medium-strong trip for me.
 
that's pretty much what i experience with 2c-b. 30 mg is the borderline between tripping and not tripping for me. i have had strong trips at 30 mg, and lackluster ones at the same dose. 25 mg was basically a dud, while 35 mg is almost guaranteed to produce a medium-strong trip for me.
It's quite odd how different the doses are for different people with the 2C-x's, I think I'd say moreso with 2C-B than any others I've encountered. 13mg's was a bare threshold and 18mg's was a medium trip for me. Not sure if I'm oddly sensitive to 2C-B or another factor playing into this.
 
^ ^ Yes. 2c-b is interesting in this regard. My sweet spot is about 20mg. I find 25 a bit strong and 15 a bit weak, but fun nonetheless. The odd thing for me is that I don't always get the same response from the same dose. Some trips seem weaker and some produce more uncomfortable body load at the same dose.
 
i wonder how much of it is due to individual biochemistry, and how much is due to differences in the 2c-b's purity?
 
So... last night I took 25mg 2C-B and wasn't feeling much of anything two hours after ingestion. So then we ate 16-17mg 4-HO-MiPT (miprocin) which led to a strong trip. It was hard to tell if they synergized. I want to say yes because I was tripping very hard, intense visuals and that damned muscle tension at the end. But this still doesn't explain why neither me nor my friend felt nothing before taking the miprocin?
My only other experience with this batch was with 30mg and it was a great trip, strong but manageable. I know the 2Cs have a steep dose-response curve but it seems ridiculous that 5mg would make the different of tripping hard to not tripping at all.

A bit late, but I combined 4-HO-MET with 2C-B once. I was finding the 2C-B trip by itself to be pretty lackluster, fun, nice, but lacking. I added 4-HO-MET and it transformed into a truly magical and immersive experience, which I found interesting because I have never had a very powerful experience on 4-HO-MET by itself. They seemed to synergize beautifully. Some of the best CEVs I have ever had, realistic, colorful, and telling a story. I would see beautiful mandalas at first and then they would unfurl and I'd fall inside and I would have more of a visionary experience, not patterns and colors but full immersive experiences.
 
A bit late, but I combined 4-HO-MET with 2C-B once. I was finding the 2C-B trip by itself to be pretty lackluster, fun, nice, but lacking. I added 4-HO-MET and it transformed into a truly magical and immersive experience, which I found interesting because I have never had a very powerful experience on 4-HO-MET by itself. They seemed to synergize beautifully. Some of the best CEVs I have ever had, realistic, colorful, and telling a story. I would see beautiful mandalas at first and then they would unfurl and I'd fall inside and I would have more of a visionary experience, not patterns and colors but full immersive experiences.

Interesting! I have some 4-AcO-MET coming soon and I was thinking about that combination. Now you've convinced me! : )
What were your dosages/RoA?
 
^The odd thing for me is that I don't always get the same response from the same dose. Some trips seem weaker and some produce more uncomfortable body load at the same dose.
I have tripped about 5 times on 20 and 25mg. It was 5 totally different experience, unlike my LSD trips, which had similarities.
Sometimes I feel body load, sometimes I have next to no visuals, only euphoria. Still, I like it :)
 
Ive tripped about 10 times on 2CB, mostly 1 capsule (presumably 20mg ), and a couple of 2 capsules

Had a great time every time....absolutely GREAT drug...loved it, would love to get ahold of A gram of this stuff.....darknet here i come ;-)

PREFERABLE TO ANY PSYCH IVE DONE (2nd favorite next to MXE)

If everything works out will be able to research this, MXE and 4-HO-MET ....possibly altogether.......sounds heavenly to me....
 
Only tripped a good 3-5 times on it.
Last of which was like 10mg iv.

Straight to the moon defo body load the visuals were crazy tho triple everything.
Having a sedative for after is a must!

I find it always puts me in a weird state of restlessness and confusion Every time I've done it.
 
Oh yeah, I have for surely been weirded out by this stuff......made me feel like a wild animal more than once.....um betting it could get a little manic combined with MXE
 
A bit late, but I combined 4-HO-MET with 2C-B once. I was finding the 2C-B trip by itself to be pretty lackluster, fun, nice, but lacking. I added 4-HO-MET and it transformed into a truly magical and immersive experience, which I found interesting because I have never had a very powerful experience on 4-HO-MET by itself. They seemed to synergize beautifully. Some of the best CEVs I have ever had, realistic, colorful, and telling a story. I would see beautiful mandalas at first and then they would unfurl and I'd fall inside and I would have more of a visionary experience, not patterns and colors but full immersive experiences.

That sounds incredible! The visuals were very detailed... I wish I had taken time to explore the CEVs.

However, I later realized that my scale was off by 10mg at the time. So I only took 15mg of 2C-B instead of 25, which makes a lot more sense.
 
When I first experimented with 2c-b I was in the middle of a period of bad drug abuse. I think that cheapened the experiences somewhat. Looking back I see why Shulgin loved it so much, the empathy is something special with this. I think I will wait a couple months and try it on an mdma comedown as I've heard great things about that combo.
 
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