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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 2

I think I'll be doing some 2C-B with MDMA this weekend. I really enjoyed the 2C-B with methylone combination, so I hope MDMA is equally as enjoyable, though I have long lost the magic with it and found methylone much lighter on the comedown. I would sniff amounts between 150-175 mg methylone with 8-12 mg 2C-B with no redosing and would always have a great night, very little comedown. I'm thinking 80-100 mg with the usual 8-12 mg 2C-B should be enough, I've just yet to decide which end of those ranges I will settle on, though I suspect I'll keep things low to test the waters.
Has anyone who has 'lost the magic' or no longer really enjoys/benefits from MDMA used it with 2C-B and achieved a glowing experience?
 
Glad to hear, thanks Folley! I'm pretty excited, I really miss the ineffable experience MDMA provides, something methylone (and even MDMA after some time) couldn't touch upon unless combined with 2C-B. I feel I should add, all experiences with drugs are subjective, and I do not recommend combining these two unless you have accumulated experience with both and know the drug is actually what it's being represented as (ie. invest in reagent tests).
 
I think I even found 2C-B to combine well with butylone, which I normally don't find that useful at all. It's pretty pushy and stimmy but 2C-B is so smooth that the stimmyness evens out a bit and the push is actually helpful to give the 2C-B some actual direction and momentum because it can be kinda tame otherwise.
But I imagine that combo is not a guaranteed win, it did work out for me that one time tho.

2C-B has made MDMA feel more like one of my first times with MDMA and also given me a general love at first sight sensation which is unspeakably special.

Obviously drugs like GHB, ketamine, weed, nitrous and alcohol can all be very recreational to combine with drugs like 2C-B, 2C-C, 2C-I, M1, 4-FA, etc. Of course not all at once! But there are a lot of pleasant combo's to make there.

I don't think I would find 2C-B that awesome with amphetamine however.. hmmm
 
I tried MDMA with 2C-B last night; 110 mg MDMA crystal was weighed, crushed and put into a line, while 11 mg 2C-B powder (very tiny needle-like crystals) was weighed and split into about 8 separate bumps. I was able to sniff through most of the 2C-B initially, though my nasal passage was not very accepting of the MDMA and I could only make it half-way through the line, taking small sniffs spaced by enough time to allow the pain the dissipate. Once I was half-way through the MDMA the discomfort and the drip of MDMA, which I resent, forced me to call it quits, telling myself I would return to it shortly.

I then messed up my timing, becoming distracted by a lovely shower with the slightest psychedelic and euphoric push that was completely controllable and comfortable. I then sat around with one of my roommates to chat, play video games and smoke some cannabis. Roughly two hours after I began the combination I returned to my room for unfinished business. Promptly, I hoovered down the remaining powders I had left sitting on my desk.

The effects never quite reached the level of euphoria that bk-MDMA (150-175 mg) and 2C-B (8-12 mg) had, though the level of empathy and peaceful approach towards life was certainly greater. I figure the long time I spent before finished my dose interfered with me attaining the effects I had sought.

Lastly, NO HANGOVER! I was very impressed by how different I would feel the day after bk-MDMA compared to MDMA, which I had abused and essentially ruined in my younger years. I was even more impressed by the almost entirely absent hangover when bk-MDMA was combined with 2C-B, which I can relate to simply keeping doses low due to the beautiful synergy. And finally, I have found a way to enjoy MDMA again, which I never thought I would be able to do. Ever since my magical honeymoon period with MDMA I would attempt to use it again every 6-12 months, but it consistently gave unappreciatiable effects during the peak, and would absolutely devastate me for the next few days.
 
The same thing happened to me with MDMA... no real roll and a terrible next few days, whereas I didn't really even get a hangover from it in my early use.
 
I'm thinking of maybe plugging a bit of 2c-b and snorting some k tomorrow night after I get home from taking my programming exam. Usually I prefer having weed with 2c-b but find when it's plugged it's not even necessary although still goes great. I really love how much the effects vary between different forms of administration it takes on a whole new character when plugged.
 
Laika said:
Why didn't you swallow the MDMA [éS]Infinite ?
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I don't really enjoy the come up with many psychedelic phenethylamines, including MDMA, so taking them nasally helps reduce that period of time. Also, I've taken bk-MDMA and 2C-B before nasally and wanted to compare the differences between the two combinations, so I kept the ROA consistent, just not the timing unfortunately.
 
Plugging for me gives a really intense 2 hours or so where all I want to do is have music on and lay down and dissolve. Strong visuals but my eyes are usually closed for them so most of it is the body high. I don't want to do anything or interact with anyone either. It's like a psychedelic nod. Does anyone else experience something similar to that with plugging?

[éS]Infinite said:
I don't really enjoy the come up with many psychedelic phenethylamines, including MDMA, so taking them nasally helps reduce that period of time. Also, I've taken bk-MDMA and 2C-B before nasally and wanted to compare the differences between the two combinations, so I kept the ROA consistent, just not the timing unfortunately.
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Ah, I see. For me snorting MDMA has just never worked. If it did that is how I would do it since I don't like the come up either. Also it seems like it doesn't last as long nor does it have the magic that swallowing it has when you snort it from what I've read where people "successfully" snorted it.
 
I might try the MDMA orally next time, since I am not so sure whether I'm effectively absorbing it in my nasal passages or just eating it with my nose - definitely some combination of the two.
I will stick to using 2C-B nasally as I find a small ~1-2 mg bump every minute or so very manageable on my nose. I've also found the nature of the effects change when used nasally as well; 2C-B gave me a very powerful body load when used orally, and that same energy was present when used nasally although it came in a different form, one which acted as a catalyst in synching my positive state of mind with my body.
 
You should consider plugging as an ROA, if you haven't already. IMO, in general phenethylamines are much less "deep" and full of content when I insufflate then. On the other hand, when I plug them, it uses the same dose, nearly eliminates bodyload and smoothes/hastens the come-up, and most importantly, the depth of the experience is maintained. It's a vastly superior ROA, for me at least.
 
I personally find a nasal dose of mdxx to boost and oral dose will do something worthwhile but I'd never take it nasally for my initial dose.

When I get done with semester I'm planning a mda+2c-b+k trip. I'm planning to plug the mda, then start doing the k once it hits me, and either plug or snort the 2c-b. I originally was planning to plug the 2c-b+mda together but I've never plugged any mdxxs I'll just do it on it's own for the start of the trip then decide how much 2c-b I want to add. I'll pre-weigh a few different sized amounts of the 2c-b beforehand to avoid making any errors.
 
[éS]Infinite said:
I might try the MDMA orally next time, since I am not so sure whether I'm effectively absorbing it in my nasal passages or just eating it with my nose - definitely some combination of the two.
I will stick to using 2C-B nasally as I find a small ~1-2 mg bump every minute or so very manageable on my nose. I've also found the nature of the effects change when used nasally as well; 2C-B gave me a very powerful body load when used orally, and that same energy was present when used nasally although it came in a different form, one which acted as a catalyst in synching my positive state of mind with my body.
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MDMA just doesn't work well nasally for some reason. that magic and anxiolytic warmth is not present, and its more a of a dirty/speedy feeling and not relaxing the way MDMA should be. 2cb works great snorted though.
 
IME (and I've said this over and over, even in this thread) plugging is the only way to go. Takes most of the stomach nastiness away - just a great experience all around.
 
Going to see Crystal Method at Euphoria this year. I plan to have some MDA and 2C-B so it should be a good time ;)
 
phenethylo J said:
I personally find a nasal dose of mdxx to boost and oral dose will do something worthwhile but I'd never take it nasally for my initial dose.

When I get done with semester I'm planning a mda+2c-b+k trip. I'm planning to plug the mda, then start doing the k once it hits me, and either plug or snort the 2c-b. I originally was planning to plug the 2c-b+mda together but I've never plugged any mdxxs I'll just do it on it's own for the start of the trip then decide how much 2c-b I want to add. I'll pre-weigh a few different sized amounts of the 2c-b beforehand to avoid making any errors.
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MDA + 2C-B + K was one of my BEST trips ever... so perfect in every way.
 
I gave MDMA and 2C-B another go last night. 180 mg MDMA swallowed in a gel cap on a slightly empty stomach. After an hour and twenty minutes, after the effects of the MDMA had set in, I insufflated 12 mg 2C-B. The come up was very quick and strong after the onset, and the effects of the MDMA seemed to have fallen into the background. I threw up about 25 minutes after sniffing the 2C-B, and found I had to lay down for a few hours to ride out the peak.
The combination didn't seem to blend as well together as bk-MDMA and 2C-B still; it didn't synergize into a lovely rolling experience but instead a very visual and euphoric one with mild introspection and depth. I watched some of Neil deGrasse Tyson's show (Cosmos, I think) and could not keep up with the information he was expressing, I was much too distracted by the colourful trails and tracers all over the screen.
Eventually I turned that off and watched 'Moving Art: Flowers' which was essentially time lapses and artistic videos of flowers set to music, and this really let the effects shine. The MDMA was still far from being at the forefront of my state of mind, making itself present with just a mild euphoria and pretty strong jaw clenching. The 2C-B however made the colours extremely bright and vibrant, the likes of which I had never seen before, yet not much in terms of warping or patterning, which I actually enjoyed since it made the movie much easier to watch. All the while I was having lovely introspective thoughts and feeling completely at peace.
I fell asleep about 7 hours after the initial ingestion of the MDMA, and feel slightly off right now, but that may be more related to only getting 3 or 4 hours sleep. Overall it was a wonderful experience that offered me a great opportunity to reflect on the people and things that are important to me in life, and how wonderful of a life experience I've had with those people and things.
 
I think people more often describe taking 2C-B later in the roll, but I could be wrong as I have never combined them. Glad you had a nice time. :)
 
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