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The Big & Dandy 25C-NBOMe Thread (part 2) ver. "My skin feels like lightning"

What [b]in your experience[/b] would be a maximum responsible buccal dose for 25C?

  • up to 400 μg

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • up to 600 μg

    Votes: 11 17.5%
  • up to 900 μg

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • up to 1200 μg

    Votes: 25 39.7%
  • up to 1500 μg

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • a dose higher than 1500 μg

    Votes: 5 7.9%

  • Total voters
    63
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Will 2.2mg of 25C (buccal) be a very strongly visual dose? I initially obtained just a 1mg blotter but later obtained another 1.2mg blotter and given that my friend suggested the 1mg blotter might not quite fulfil my taste for a nice strong trip, I figured I'll go with the whole amount.

What about communication at this dose, is this something that'd be great at a social event or would I struggle in an environment with lots of other people?

Has anyone else experienced serious side-effects at this dosage? Cryptix your hospital trip is making me hesitant about taking such a dose, I was under the impression this was still within the safe dose range for this compound but now I'm not so sure. Any other factors in play during your trip?
 
^That's way too high of a dose for 25C in my opinion. Some people may be able to pull that off with 25I (and I still don't recommend it), but with 25C you're entering the danger zone without a doubt. If you do dose that amount, expect extreme psychedelia, and extreme vasocontriction.
 
Any better suggestions on using my 1mg + 1.2mg blotters then? I've heard that a single one of each blotter was on the weaker side and not that great - so I'm not even sure if the blotters are the stated dose, or if there's just a steep dose curve after say 1.2-1.3mg or so.

I could take the 1mg blotter and half of the 1.2mg blotter since the 1.2mg blotter is actually 4 standard 6mm x 6mm blotters stuck together unperfed, so it'd be easy to simply cut it in half provided the blotter is evenly laid. The thing is though what'd I do with the remaining 600ug? If someone found one of these blotters weak/medium at best, then I'd expect to be very disappointed with half (whether that *is* 600ug or not is another matter though).

I could go with nasal admin or vaping but I'd rather not have to extract it if at all possible, even though extraction is fairly simple. I don't suppose you can just vape the blotter on foil/smoke it between tobacco/weed?
 
Any better suggestions on using my 1mg + 1.2mg blotters then? I've heard that a single one of each blotter was on the weaker side and not that great - so I'm not even sure if the blotters are the stated dose, or if there's just a steep dose curve after say 1.2-1.3mg or so.

I could take the 1mg blotter and half of the 1.2mg blotter since the 1.2mg blotter is actually 4 standard 6mm x 6mm blotters stuck together unperfed, so it'd be easy to simply cut it in half provided the blotter is evenly laid. The thing is though what'd I do with the remaining 600ug? If someone found one of these blotters weak/medium at best, then I'd expect to be very disappointed with half (whether that *is* 600ug or not is another matter though).

I could go with nasal admin or vaping but I'd rather not have to extract it if at all possible, even though extraction is fairly simple. I don't suppose you can just vape the blotter on foil/smoke it between tobacco/weed?

Who has said the blotters are weak? Is it a community consensus, or was it just one or two people you know? It might be that they are actually aliquoted as stated, and that those who are reporting it as weak simply have large tolerances for whatever reasons.

Whatever it is, don't you think it's best to undershoot rather than overshoot on your first try, especially considering these are NBOMes and are rapidly gaining notoriety around here for causing not only severe physiological reactions at high doses, but also a few deaths and hospitalizations due to overdose.

I'm not saying that will happen with your dosing scheme, but if I were you, I would be taking sub milligram doses to test it out. You can always take more another time round, but you cannot un-take an overdose.
 
Seriously be careful with this one. I upped concentrations to 350ug per spray recently. Two sprays were enjoyable for me and a friend, but we were holding onto the walls for a good 8 hours. Someone tried four sprays, thats only 1.4mg, and had a nightmare. Another had two and felt total confusion. Another presumably inexperienced with phenylethylamines had just one spray and felt it was a bit too intense.

I noticed that while 700ug wasn't unpleasant, much of the amazing body high of lower doses was gone. I get the feeling 500ug is about the sweet spot for me with this one. Thats where the skin felt like lightning. I have no idea how this translates to blotters.

For those making sprays, may I suggest going for 300ug per spray. There might be room for one up each nostril resulting in a strong but enjoyable trip, with one spray being good for a light hit for when combining with other things.

I have had no reports or experience of vasoconstriction. Things got too hard visually or with confusion before other problems arose.

Any mention on this thread of doses above 1.5mg leaves me scanning for a trainwreck/hospital or massive tolerance explanation.

Hope this of harm reduction value.
 
^Your welcome. I wasn't going to share these results for an unknown reason but felt obliged to when I saw people talking about 1.2mg+ doses.

I suddenly felt the obligation of harm reduction in me and shared all I could.
 
I ordered 40mg a few weeks ago and accidentally took maybe 10mg+. I started to feel it within 15mins after swishing it around my mouth for just 5minutes tops. I enjoyed the effects and found it very similar to Lsd because of the 3D carpet. Other than that it was different more faster visuals (I opened the door and looked outside and was freaked out by just looking at the grass move/grow intensely. Don't forget I took WAY WAY more than you are supposed to. I plan on trying it again but within proper dose range because it eventually became overwhelming and I was very paranoid and a bit on edge. It lasted from about 10:30am until 8:30pm and around 6pm I was able to enjoy the coming down because it wasn't overwhelming anymore. The coolest thing I saw was liquid water coming out of the tiles on my kitchen floor, very cool! The scariest part was seeing my girlfriend become at least 100 years old and very brittle and she sounded like she was in pain... I think I took at least 10mg because I put my finger in the package and licked it, and then took another dose 25mins later because I was very oblivious to what I had just done.
 
^ I assume you didn't consume 10mg+ as with that dosage you probably wouldn't have made it out your front door due to the visuals being too overwhelming. The vasoconstriction would have probably been enough to be quite painful too if not enough to prompt and scare you into heading down to the hospital to get checked out.

What on earth were you thinking dipping your finger in the package and licking it with something where just taking 0.5-1mg too much has led to people hospitalised? Dipping your finger in the bag could lead to you picking up anywhere from a few mgs to 10, 20, maybe even 30. Had you been unlucky I suspect you wouldn't be here to type up that post now.

You can get a cheap milligram scale for $15, weigh up 10mg+, then use liquid measurement to split up this amount into a reasonable dose. (since milligram scales don't actually provide that much accuracy when dealing with 1-3mg amounts)

Next time try with say 1-1.5mg and hold the amount in your mouth for a good hour or longer, as people seem to have observed increased effects the longer you hold it in your mouth (probably due to it not being absorbed orally) - you only holding it in for 5 minutes may have been what saved your ass last time.

Be careful man. :)
 
Next time try with say 1-1.5mg and hold the amount in your mouth for a good hour or longer, as people seem to have observed increased effects the longer you hold it in your mouth (probably due to it not being absorbed orally) - you only holding it in for 5 minutes may have been what saved your ass last time.

Jesusgreen, I just don't understand why (in response to someone who is "licking the bag") you are recommending 1-1.5mg of this compound which is clearly kicking asses in sub milligram doses, and which it seems you have yet to try yourself. I get from your posts that you are on a bit of a psychedelic mad one lately and that your general doses for things are higher than most, but for god sakes we're dealing with NBOMes here man, and in this case a very potent one out of the class.

I must object to anybody recommending doses of 1mg or above of this stuff. Once it's made okay to recommend such doses, the next person pushes that dose up further and recommends that, and then the next person recommends an even higher dose. If people want to explore the higher dosage realms with these compounds, fine. That's anybody's rightful decision. But I cannot see the sense in recommending doses which are already way above what some people are calling very strong. Recommended doses of any compounds should be in the safe, moderate range of the lowest common denominator.

End of rant.
 
It's not that absurd to recommend a 1mg dose of this drug.

I know people who took 1mg of this or 25i buccally as their first psychedelic trip ever and liked it, I myself have taken 1.5mg of 25c buccally and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I think where most people go wrong is with the insufflated route, It's probably more potent and with a less gentle onset and it gets people out of whack.
 
Here almost all of the blotters sold are 1-1.2mg, and I've yet to see anyone be overwhelmed by such an experience. Experiences range from weak to fairly strong, but I've also not seen or heard of a many/any bad reactions with this dosage that were taken buccally.

The reason I suggested this dose range in particular (though I should have explained this in my post) was because he's just taken a very huge dose possibly up to 10mg+ if his estimate is correct (though I don't think it's likely to have been quite that high as I said) - as a result it doesn't seem he's one of the ones that are reacting extremely badly even to regular doses, 1mg is a pretty common dose with 25C-NBOMe, and while the 1.5mg is high it's a far step down from his accidental overdose. It's worth noting a lot of the reports with people saying 1mg was extremely strong etc were people insufflating the drug, when I'm referring to buccal admin.

Of course I wouldn't suggest jumping in at 1.5mg to someone who has not yet working their way up without reacting badly, since the dose response curve seems to definitely raise pretty quick above 1mg.
 
Seriously be careful with this one. I upped concentrations to 350ug per spray recently. Two sprays were enjoyable for me and a friend, but we were holding onto the walls for a good 8 hours. Someone tried four sprays, thats only 1.4mg, and had a nightmare. Another had two and felt total confusion. Another presumably inexperienced with phenylethylamines had just one spray and felt it was a bit too intense.

I noticed that while 700ug wasn't unpleasant, much of the amazing body high of lower doses was gone. I get the feeling 500ug is about the sweet spot for me with this one. Thats where the skin felt like lightning. I have no idea how this translates to blotters.

For those making sprays, may I suggest going for 300ug per spray. There might be room for one up each nostril resulting in a strong but enjoyable trip, with one spray being good for a light hit for when combining with other things.

I have had no reports or experience of vasoconstriction. Things got too hard visually or with confusion before other problems arose.

Any mention on this thread of doses above 1.5mg leaves me scanning for a trainwreck/hospital or massive tolerance explanation.

Hope this of harm reduction value.

You must've missed my post about my hospital trip on 2.4mg.

As this guy says; do not fuck around with this chemical. It is not as forgiving as even 25i. There is something sinister about it.
 
^ To you. I find this chemical much more forgiving than 25i and words like "sinister" are ridiculous. At any rate, if you go through the respective big and dandy threads, there are much more dangerous and overwhelming incidents with 25i than with 25c, for whatever reason.

Jesusgreen, I just don't understand why (in response to someone who is "licking the bag") you are recommending 1-1.5mg of this compound which is clearly kicking asses in sub milligram doses, and which it seems you have yet to try yourself. I get from your posts that you are on a bit of a psychedelic mad one lately and that your general doses for things are higher than most, but for god sakes we're dealing with NBOMes here man, and in this case a very potent one out of the class.

I must object to anybody recommending doses of 1mg or above of this stuff. Once it's made okay to recommend such doses, the next person pushes that dose up further and recommends that, and then the next person recommends an even higher dose. If people want to explore the higher dosage realms with these compounds, fine. That's anybody's rightful decision. But I cannot see the sense in recommending doses which are already way above what some people are calling very strong. Recommended doses of any compounds should be in the safe, moderate range of the lowest common denominator.

End of rant.

I'm not sure exactly where you're getting this from? I haven't read very many reports at all of people getting their "asses kicked" at doses below 1mg taken buccally. I agree that nasally going to 1mg is too much. But from the vast majority of experience reports I've read in these threads and through my own and friends' experiences, 1mg has been a pretty standard, somewhat light trip. Most people seem to be taking doses in the 1-1.5mg range buccally, and that doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all.
 
^ bro, could you come down off your high horse for a couple seconds so we can speak as equals?


Cool, hey there, nice to see you down here with me. Well, I have taken upwards of 3.5mg of 25i, and combined it with various other drugs, some resulting in intense but not life threatening trips.

My SINGLE experience with 25c was 2.4mg, and I woke up in the ICU 15 hours later. Just please don't put me down with your choice of words like 'ridiculous'. If I find something about the drug sinister, who the fuck are you to say otherwise?

25i is now in it's THIRD reincarnation as a big and dandy thread, where as with 25c we are still in the second. Could that have anything to do with the larger amount of reports from 25i?
 
I have to say my largest dose of 25c(just under 2mg) felt quite sinister, very simular to mescaline, all the branches turned into snakes and I thought I was floating down the amazon river seein pyramids and animals n shit.. I ended up puking my guts out for a short time and sweating my nuts off for 4 hours.
 
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be careful guys
"21-year-old dies after one drop of new synthetic drug at Voodoo Fest"
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/11/21-year-old_dies_after_one_dro.html

If you let a stranger squirt an unknown dose of an unknown substance up your nose. your asking to die.
ive had many experiences with 25i and 25c. you should know your dose. and what way to take it. seems like most people having problems with it are taking it nasally. but i also have friends who take it nasally and say its the best way.
 
I am curious if any of the variation in data on doses is the result of some impure or possibly cut batches? I tried 350ug on the gums for 30 minutes and found myself having to lay down for much of the experience, which then allowed things to become more comfortable and eventually euphoric. But with eyes open trying to interact with my surroundings, I found the come-up to be too strong, or stronger than I had anticipated at that dose I should say.
 
I must object to anybody recommending doses of 1mg or above of this stuff.
I found that people here taking a dose of 2.4mg also extreme, that is asking for trouble.
Just because you can theorectically take high doses of LSD without dying doesnt mean you can do it with this substance.

With other phenethylamines I dont like to go very high with the dosage either because of the body load that is allready there at dosages where its only slightly psychedelic.


I think I took at least 10mg because I put my finger in the package and licked it, and then took another dose 25mins later because I was very oblivious to what I had just done.
WTF?! 8o
 
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