The Big & Dandy 25C-NBOMe Thread (part 2) ver. "My skin feels like lightning"

[twelvesevndi]

I got them from a well known vendor

email them and ask what the blotter contains
if they are a "reputable vendor" then they should provide you with an answer promptly.

personally i would not take those tabs until you know exactly how much they contain.

 

[Section813]

You also need to know if it is or isnt complexed as this can increase absorption making it more potent.

 

[IamMe90]

I haven't seen too many complexed 25c blotters out there but I'm aware that they exist. I'm not sure how big of a factor it is though - 25c seems to have less absorption issues than 25i buccally and given the intensity of nasal vs. uncomplexed buccal that I perceive, I can't imagine it would get too much more potent. But who knows, I haven't tried 25c complexed (don't see a reason to) so I don't have first hand knowledge here.

 

[jason7]

I found a low dose of 25C to be nice. I had some 1:9 25C/MSM dissolved, mixed and dried powder laying around. Being still way too concentrated to weigh out easily I diluted it further with inositol powder, 4 times as much inositol as 25C/MSM. Put 10 mg under my tongue and got a nice mild effect much like 1 hit of microdot. I could feel it but there was only very slight tremor instead of full body shakes as with higher doses. Very slight feeling in the stomach like I get with acid, which I call "acid indigestion". Slight nutsack tingles. I don't really like the full dose 25C effect that much, a little too drastic, but this was about right.

To be honest though, for me it lacks the pleasurable aspects of LSD. That would be due to LSD having CNS stimulating effects. I find the NBOMEs like LSD with the pleasurable stimulation stripped away. On the good side, I'm not awake all night, so I guess it sort of balances out. At least it broke up the monotony a little.

 

[williamsbryanw]

im intrested in ordering some 25C-NBOMe but im a little scared about the potency.
what are the cheapest scales would you recommend to make an accurate weigh for this chem?

 

[jason7]

I tried making an enteric capsule with about 400 mcg in it by dipping the capsule in shellac a few times and drying it out. Didn't feel a thing. Apparently even the small intestine deactivates it. No way to make it orally active I guess. Oh well, at least nobody can pass off tableted or capsuled NBOME as acid. They can try to pass off blotter NBOME but who puts blotter acid on their gums? If they tell you to put it on your gums you can be sure it's not acid.

 

[jason7]

I should give a little more detail of how I made a very absorbable powder form of NBOME. I only did this with a small amount because I was seeing if it would work. I had obtained a small test amount of only 100 mg before I got a whole gram of it after I found it was good quality.

I took the 100 mg and I put it in a small glass bowl with 900 mg of inositol, which I bought in pure form in capsules at a health store. I later did the same thing with 100 mg of 25I NBOME and 900 of MSM powder, also bought in capsules. Both seemed to work as good but the MSM version did seem to hit a little harder.

So what happened was that I added 99% isopropanol to the combined powders in the bowl, enough to cover it and make a slurry. This presumably dissolved all of the NBOME but didn't seem to dissolve much of the inositol or MSM powder. I did add, if I recall, a couple drops of water to dissolve the inositol somewhat but I wanted it to dry out quickly so I added very little water. You could probably use normal 70% isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) and then not add any water at all. So I mixed that up well and let it dry out then scraped it off the bowl with a razor blade and thoroughly crushed and mixed it with the bottom of a glass vial, which seemed a convenient thing to use.

Now the thing here is that I don't know if it would work the same if you added enough water to dissolve all of the inositol/MSM or if it was actually beneficial to have the carrier powder only somewhat dissolved. It may be that the NBOME is getting spread out and precipitated onto the undissolved carrier powder's surface. If the carrier powder was also completely dissolved it's possible that both substances would simply precipitate as separate tiny crystals and the NBOME molecules might not be as well dispersed as when the carrier powder is mostly undissolved. I never tried adding that much water. I'm guessing it would probably work out about the same but I can't vouch for it.

In retrospect, I can see that it would have been better if I had added 49 parts carrier powder to 1 part NBOME because it would have been even more dispersed and also easier to weigh out. I ended up adding extra inositol later to further dilute it to that concentration. That worked fine. A 2% mixture seems to be a practical concentration, 25 mg of mixture then contains 500 mcg of NBOME. Even the original 10% NBOME mixture was apparently dispersed enough to afford pretty much complete absorption but I'm sure that adding 19-49 parts carrier powder at the beginning when the alcohol is added would produce even better absorption. The NBOME would then be very widely dispersed on the surface of the carrier powder.

BTW, I tried insufflating a little of both the pure inositol and the pure MSM to see if they would cause nasal irritation themselves and there was no noticeable irritation with either though the 10% NBOME mixture did cause some slight burning, so that would be another reason to use more carrier powder than 9 parts. I tried the 2% version (with the extra inositol added later) sublingually and it worked well but I haven't tried insufflating it, but I'm sure it would work fine. I made sure the extra inositol was well mixed with the original 10% NBOME by putting the mixture in a vial and shaking it for a few minutes.

So the point is that you don't even need to complex NBOME or put it on blotters, nor make it into a liquid mixture. You can easily make it into a completely absorbable powder which is convenient to store, handle and weigh out, in addition to being convenient to insufflate or stick under your tongue.

EDIT; Actually come to think of it, it was only the 25I that I used the MSM with and I had a pretty bad reaction when I insufflated it, felt sick and had bad tremors. It was a high dose though, about 1 mg in two 500 mcg doses cuz the first dose was taking too long to kick in so I took another. I never used the 25I again after that si I don't know if it was the high dose or the MSM that did it. The 25C was inositol only. I would advise sticking to inositol. MSM is like DMSO, it takes things straight through your cells.

 

[dan k]

^nice info

 

[MDMAPhreak]

Haven't kept up with this thread lately so not sure what I missed. But want to report with solidity that the hydrochloride of this molecule is sufficiently bioavailable when laid correctly on blotter and used sublingually. A complexing agent is NOT necessary although I'd venture to believe it couldn't hurt in any way. Can thoroughly confirm later but at work at the moment. Will report back.

 

[GumbyClaymation]

With flu season upon us, it just got me to thinking if the FluMist devices would be good to use for NBOME administration. Those things are designed to deliver mist to your nasal passages. Since they're single use, there should be tons of them being disposed of. Of course, I'd sanitize before use. I'm curious if this would work well.
I haven't used the insulin syringe method, partly because things used for injection have bad connotations. How good of a mist do those create when you plunge quickly? Or is it still more of a squirt?

 

[TryptamineBunny]

The nasal spray is the way to go with this one imo! Watch out for typical commercial wastage strategies preventing refilling with your nbome solution.

I currently have a Sudafed nose unblocking spray to play around with. It appears to be resealable. On the side it says "unblocks your nose, last 10 hours, non-drowsy". You just need to add "+visuals" to that list, fill her up, and run around spraying those you love.

 

[elliot]

I insufflated ~230µg of 25C-NBOMe last night at around 1:30am, and then another ~230µg about an hour later. I can say there was almost no euphoria or mood lift to speak of, despite a lot of people claiming this. My muscles felt strained, my neck was tense and my jaw was clenched. It was extremely difficult to think at times, occasionally forgetting where I put things and the like. There were some interesting visuals, somewhat similar to acid. But unlike acid this didn't just add a beautiful extra layer to my vision, it seemed to seriously mess up my sense of depth perception/distance/sizes etc. Some small objects felt huge, and my room at times felt like a cardboard box. Very unpleasant sensation to not be in control of that kind of perception.

I was hoping it would be something like a shorter-acting LSD. It wasn't, unfortunately. The lack of euphoria combined with the mental retardation makes it uncomfortable, the visuals were interesting but it felt like it was the result of chemical-induced dumbness. On LSD I feel like curtains of my mind are gently pulled open and I am able to see and think things that I otherwise could not. On 25C-NBOMe I feel like it just sets the curtains on fire. I'm unable to think deeply and just feel like my visual processing is wasted. Felt very much like I had been mentally "poisoned". Fell asleep ~6 hours after first ingesting, so being able to sleep was a plus.

I'll be trying it again soon, I have 500µg of powder left. Should I insufflate it all at once, or ingest it bucally? Does tolerance build up so quickly that I should wait a week or so? I would love to improve my opinion of this chemical, as my first trial wasn't that impressive. (Does anyone else share some of these negative side-effects? Most people seem to rate it positively, so I was honestly shocked I didn't enjoy it that much.)

 

[zn13bt]

Buccal will be a gentler come-up than insufflated, so maybe you'll have a better time if you take it that way. And yes you need to wait at least a week before trying again, preferably two. You can also try taking some magnesium for the vasoconstriction and muscle tension.

 

[dan k]

And yes you need to wait at least a week before trying again, preferably two. You can also try taking some magnesium for the vasoconstriction and muscle tension.

not true, on an east coast tour this summer i watched two guys drop every night for 6 days straight... usually two or three got them off but the last day they ended up doing like 8 drops in the nose each.. (350mg per drop)

 

[Splitz]

I have to concur with what someone said about music enhancement on this... I was blasting my ears with my loud as hell headphones and it shot sparks of electricity through me. Very, very good for music appreciation.

There was no constant euphoria, although throughout the day moments of feeling at peace. I had no CEVs but strangely nothing gives me CEVs. OEVs were insane, but got a bit boring around 2 hours in, then just as that happened, bang. Gone. Mild trails for a couple more hours, then just an increase in brightness that lasted the day.

 

[jaurk]

It makes me feel like I have a stitch, like a poisoning of my liver or something.
And the inside of my legs hurts also.
I get the same with 25i, it feels so unhealthy.
And my brain always feel so fried.
Very fun but not very deep or spiritual.


Did 1.8mg 25c - 40min buccal last night

Come up was rough, almost puked.
Grasped the walls and held on tight as all the noises started reverbing and splitting apart.

Visually, fractals everywhere.
Everything waving around.

Mentally, really clear headspace.
So clear.

Talked to a police officer on it, she searched my bag and shit. It was so fucking intense.
But my insides are in considerable pain, I wish it would go away already.

 

[zn13bt]

not true, on an east coast tour this summer i watched two guys drop every night for 6 days straight... usually two or three got them off but the last day they ended up doing like 8 drops in the nose each.. (350mg per drop)

Yes true. It's been reported by lots of posters to the NBOMe threads that you need at least a week for tolerance to wear off. Anecdotal evidence from "two guys" you happen to know doesn't contradict that.

 

[mozokev]

So, after taking 25C-NBOMe several times I've realized that I always feel like I don't know what to do with my body (the same is also true for 25B). I can't stay still but I don't really feel the need to move. It's almost like I've got a nervous tick/twitch. Has anyone else experience this with 25C or any of the other NBOMe's? Also, I don't experience this with any other psychedelics really, just found it kinda strange.

 

[cryptix420]

Well my god. I feel like an idiot.

A few days ago, looking to have a massively intense trip, I dosed 2.4mg of 25c. There was probably some residual MXE also floating around my bloodstream, I suppose that is relevant.

Fast forward about 24 hours, and I woke up in the hospital with a goddamned breathing tube and catheter stuck in me. They had given me propofol, versed, and some other godforsaken intravenous sedative. It felt like a dream at first; I have a vague memory of the ambulance ride..I thought I was in the midst of a battle between heaven and hell, and proceeded to try and fight the 'demons' off of me. Turns out I was battling the paramedics, and thus they had to have 10 people holding me down and then restrain me. Those 2 days I spent in the ICU were the worst hours of my entire life, and that includes the 3 times I've been in jail.

I do plan on writing a full trip report. I just wanted to say it would probably be wise to be careful with the dosing on this drug. I thought I could handle it.....going for that bike ride was such a bad idea. The visuals were cool for a little while, until I got overwhelmed and thought I was laying in a pool of my own blood, and began screaming what I thought would be my last words in the middle of a busy sidewalk in my town. This experience has left me shattered, wrecked, overwhelmed, and ruined like no other. Tensions at my house are at an all time high, as my roommates now believe I am a psychotic fool. The most irritating part is all those motherfuckers kept saying I took 'bath salts'. I didn't take any fucking bath salts damnit. My roommate "I did some research on bath salts....it didn't look good"...jesus christ. Someone educate these people, and then maybe educate me on responsible drug use.

Fuckin' a. I just have not had very good luck with these NBOMe's. I will be sticking to LSD and mushrooms in the future.

 

[Splitz]

^ I think you may have educated yourself. The hard way. At the least it sounds like something you won't do again...

Also I remember an odd effect this substance had on me. It felt like there were strings pulling my torso upwards, as if I were a puppet. I also felt really tall. It was quite cool.