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The Big & Dandy 25C-NBOH Thread

Zeon9010 said:
I have come to believe that since the NBOH derivitives duration of effects are about half as long as their respective NBOMe chemicals that tolerance for the NBOHs last about a week. So half as long as the NBOMes.
I suspected this before trying them due to the fact that the duration of smoked DMT is around 15-20 minutes and tolerance lasts about an hour and LSD duration of effects last about 8ish hours and its tolerance lasts about 2 weeks. So after a few months of experimenting with the tolerance of 25C-NBOH I have found that it lasts about 1 week. Half as long as the NBOMes.
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But I've also noticed very very little tolerance by day 3 and barelly any noticable tolerance by day 5.
 
DXM reverses opiate tolerance? Like, you can take it and then the next time you take opiates you will have lost some of your tolerance?
 
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/519434-DXM-The-Opiate-Addicts-s-Miracle-Drug-PLEASE-READ

I believe - maybe unsurprisingly - MXE does this as well, I have had some cycles with oxy and MXE in the last couple of months and my opiate tolerance isn't that bad and my cravings aren't either. In fact my oxy use is winding down, it's been a while since I've scored some.

Just please don't trade an opiate addiction for a dissociative addiction. Granted they are generally considered a little less horrible, but MXE does not have that long a history of use in humans and people have definitely reported it to be a monster of a drug to get hooked on. I guess they are talking about unsurpassed psychological addiction but still, seriously, the psychological part is not to be underestimated and may be the worst part of it. Then again I would say the opposite about my benzo dependence history.
 
I don't crave dissociatives, I have MXE and I've only used it a couple of times in several weeks. I was just wondering if they could be used to help lower my use of opiates, like if it reduces tolerance does that mean it would reduce the severity of withdrawal and could possibly used to quickly taper down?
 
Don't know man, not sure... maybe you can't just skip over that severity like that, then again yeah maybe it could help. Seems to be worth investigating, conservatively though.

I do want to point out that when there is overlap between MXE and oxy in my system, I do feel pretty sickly. Not that I want to say the consensus is that together MXE and opies are a no-no, it's just my experience.

You probably know everything I meant to say with those warnings, you're a grown fella and I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself. It's just that benzo's / other strong gabaergics, opiates and dissociatives all have their own way of being creepy. Don't forget that just because you are seeing the sunny side of it now. And ymmv also.
 
A low dose of dextromethorphan, like 70-90mg, not enough to be psychoactive, is enough so that the next day if you take an opiate it will be like you have absolutely no tolerance to it.

I'm just wondering if it's possible that there is a chemical that can reverse tolerance with certain tryptamines/phenylalamines similar to how DXM reverses opiate tolerance temporarily.
 
I have a feeling that a hefty dose of MAOI (harmine/harmaline) could produce the desired reset of tolerance..
 
afer said:
I have a feeling that a hefty dose of MAOI (harmine/harmaline) could produce the desired reset of tolerance..
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Well, strictly speaking, that wouldn't be a reset of tolerance but a potentiation.

Zeon9010, I'm afraid there is not such drug.
 
Fagott said:
Well, strictly speaking, that wouldn't be a reset of tolerance but a potentiation.

Zeon9010, I'm afraid there is not such drug.
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Not that we know of atleast. Never know when there might be a new scientific breakthrough.
 
After some more research ice come to the conclusion that this is completely worthless to me. 2 weeks of not using anything but the occasional Advil, I took 2mg. It was terribly underwhelming, and a bit sickening. Very slight positive effects, and strange pains and nausea, and that's about it. It was like the first time when I took half a blotter and got little from it, only more toxic feeling. I get incredible effects from the 25i even at very low doses, even if I still have a bit of tolerance built, so it was a bit odd to me that this completely lacks significant effects. Its like taking one hit of E that's pretty weak and has something icky in it that makes you ill. it also tastes worse than the 25i and instead of an afterglow, I feel like im experiencing withdrawl the next day. I've tried several dosages and the result is the same cruddy, dirty, sick feeling.

My advice, buy 25i instead and fuck this garbage. Of course these drugs affect different people differently, but the notes I've taken from various subjects all universally agree that this is sickening and toxic and not recreational or a useful psychedelic tool at all. It is, at best, quite boring. I get a better ride from bloody gabapentin than I get from this. The only interesting effect are the peripheral visual distortions. They make things enlongate, shift and bend, glow red or blue depending on the ambient light level, and appear to be coated in slime that's slowly oozing down, but these only occur with stuff you aren't focusing on and can be more startling than interesting due to the mindset that you tend to get when you feel all twitchy and sick: agitated. I felt mildly panicked each time I took these and that only adds to the agitation. It puts an irremovable smile on my face, but I don't feel good or happy at all, that's something curious to me.

meh, that's my experience at least. This stuff is just very boring, imo a waste of time and money. It brings nothing to the table at all that you'd wanna deal with.
 
Multiple friends of mine came to the same conclusions after sampling 25C and 25I. They preferred the latter, stating that 25C is, overall, lacking any value compared to 25I.
 
My source for my beloved strawberry tabs have returned! Just a heads up that I will be starting more research on 25C-NBOH in a few weeks from now.
 
If you swallow it becomes innactive, you have to hold it at least for 30 minutes. It seems most people hold it under the tongue....it seems really unpractical, since it must create a lot of saliva and you can't really feel if you swallowed it or not. The best for me is to hold a quarter of a blotter bettween your gum and cheek for about an hour, you'll be fully tripping and won't waste any product. This way always worked for me, although it takes longer to come up and it's a lot smoother.
 
I chew it
I swallow
it works
I try to keep it in my mouth chewing for at least 5 minutes sometimes 20 minutes
I don't ever leave it under my tongue.
 
I keep 1mg tab under my tongue for about 30 min or until I start feeling effects. I have done up to 2mg but will never go above 1mg again due to the nature of these chems. I felt safe but that doesn't seem to mean much with these.
 
now it's the end of august... I guess I have been experimenting with lsz and al-lad more than anything else lately, but I have not forgotten this little sweetie, and I must say it can hold its own in the ring.
a mild dose is sparkly and uplifting even if not nearly as complex or insightful.
I am gratified and satisfied to find a bit of it in my stash.
 
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