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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy 1P-LSD Thread - Volume 2

yeah, there sure is some poteniation from cannabis to.account for that, I dont think half.a tab would give me such strong visuals, but I havent taken less than a tab.

I have also noticed what Seph said, Ive had some pretty mellow trips on this one, so far I found it to have very little stimulation, but I dont know if that has been due to set and setting
 
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yeah, there sure is some poteniation from cannabis to.account for that, I dont think half.a tab would give me such strong visuals, but I havent taken less than a tab.

I have also noticed what Seph said, Ive had some pretty mellow trips on this one, so far I found it to have very little stimulation, but I dont know if that has been due to set and setting
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I've taken half a tab a few times and there are nil/minimal visuals, but once the second half takes hold the visuals build very fast.

I think it's set and setting for stimulation. First couple of times I did it was at home alone and had strong stimulation, and one time in public too. But then when I started taking it with friends we would find it very relaxing and spent the best part of trips sat around talking.
 
The more I think about it it seems more of quite a stoned thought . Although with 1p not having the stimulation of normal LSD (well at a single tab at least) I do find it exceptionally visual which really get funky around 2-2.5hrs for myself .im rather looking forward to part two of the paper that was published as it is the hydrolysis experiments that are being done
 
Less visual than real lsd for me. Compares to lsd like mushrooms to truffles. More recreational IMO.

I did get weird feelings in my back though as if there's a midget hanging on there.

oh wait that's just the monkey..
 
Interesting substance. Just on the tail end of a trip now (100mcg blotter, taken 10 hours ago, following a light breakfast earlier in the day).

Personally, I found the body load too high, placing a bit of a strain on the gut.

The nausea never really went away, despite best efforts with some earl grey with a ginger infusion. I also felt a certain amount of intellectual listlessness, set against physical enthusiasm. Most frustrating. Wanted to do something... Just couldn't quite settle on what it was!

I'm loathe to describe physical effects, nor even make comparisons to other substances, such as they are subjective and wrapped up in ones own set and setting...

But, for what it's worth, my experience was of something that probably needed more than 100mcg (or what I was sold as 100mcg). I experienced quite brilliant CEVs, reminiscent of other acid trips, strong primary colours and neons, interspersed with white-black gradients.

OEVs were similar to acid, but lacked intensity. Textures emerged on objects in a similar way, edges softened and draped in velvet. Whites and glass had their characteristic "drenched" style, with reflective glare being of fascinating appearance. Visual shimmering was present under soft light conditions and appeared to coincide with the peak of the trip.

Headspace never really cleared for me. The body load just left me feeling a bit floored. Would be interested to try this again under different circumstances (work stress) and when the weather's a bit more cheery!

Took a diclaz about two hours ago to kill off any residual before bed time.
 
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In my experience sub dosed LSD (or 1P) worsens the body load.
For me the body load is essentially during the come up, or more precisely it stops when the effect exceed a certain level.
So if the dose is not high enough, the body load will last or eventually will stay until the end of the trip.
With the right dosage, the body load is short or even unnoticeable.
After several experiences, for me 1 tab of 1p is frustrating (with a long body load), 2 tabs is a bit boring and 3 tabs is just fine.
 
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stanleyK said:
In my experience sub dosed LSD (or 1P) worsens the body load.
For me the body load is essentially during the come up, or more precisely it stops when the effect exceed a certain level.
So if the dose is not high enough, the body load will last or eventually will stay until the end of the trip.
With the right dosage, the body load is short or even unnoticeable.
After several experiences, for me 1 tab of 1p is frustrating (with a long body load), 2 tabs is a bit boring and 3 tabs is just fine.
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The dosing is getting more and more curious in my case.
Started off with 1 tab, since last summer and gradually built up to 1.5, to 2. Upping the dose, was like kicking off the training wheels. First time on 1 tab was beyond fantastic. So was 1.5. So was 2. However, we did another 2-tab trip last weekend and the headspace just wasn't there. Tabs came from the same supplier we've been using the past 6 months. Looking back, I wouldn't have minded trying 3.
Visuals were there, also did some N2O. Experience was slightly underwhelming.
We've been spacing trips with at least 2 to 3 weeks. Set and setting were as usual great. Strange.
 
It's been mentioned before and it makes sense due to the variation of the body from week to week so is it that maybe from your first double drop your body's level of the enzyme that may have been responsible for the change of 1p into LSD was just lower on the second double drop ? If this is the case it could also explain why some people have had stupidly strong trips of this and others pretty mild . Especially when foods that would use the same enzymes have been consumed before, the volume of these enzymes within the body would be much higher, which should mean giving a higher conversion rate of 1p to LSD
 
why does p1-lsd selling shops mention that "All research chemical products sold are strictly not for human consumption or any form of in-vivo research". Can't this product be ingested where it says this? this is no troll
 
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why does p1-lsd selling shops mention that "All research chemical products sold are strictly not for human consumption or any form of in-vivo research". Can't this product be ingested where it says this? this is no troll
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They have to, otherwise it wouldn't be legal. I know it sounds weird but it's just a grey area that they can operate in this way.
 
Here's a bit more information I've collected about tolerance and strength of trip. This is my pattern of use. Each trip will be denoted as +, ++ or +++ for strength of trip.

Very quick background information; 55 yrs old, 6 ft tall, 194 lbs and living with kidney failure.

July 3rd 25 ug +
July 10th 75 ug +
July 17th 100 ug ++
July 24th 100 ug ++
July 31st 100ug +++ (with MJ)
August 7th 100 ug + 1/2
August 15th 50 ug 1/2
August 21st 50 ug 1/2
October 16th 100 ug * 1/2
October 23rd 150 ug ++
October 30th 200 ug ++ 1/2
November 6th 100 ug ++ (with MJ)
November 27th 200 ug +++

My most recent trip was the strongest I've had so far, and this without MJ. Stomach was empty with food having been consumed ~24 hours previously. Personally I haven't found to affect the strength of the trip at all. However, unlike mushrooms I still have an appetite and can easily eat - although the food I find I'm shovelling in is mostly for textural contrast and novelty. Also unlike mushrooms I still find it enjoyable to drink beer. It seems as if I need 2 weeks for a reset, unlike mushrooms where I can easily trip once per week ad infinitum.

Tom
 
Tom, could you describe your strongest trip? What the experience was like in terms of visuals, perception of time and all other psychedelic effects?
 
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Crazy.....most people around here that are taking it are being quite underwhelmed with 100mcg
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Underwhelmed with 100mcg?? wooow

I had 25ug of 1p-LSD and my pupiles were very big... It took 2h to full kick in, but then I had flashes and mild visuals and a very powerfull stimulation and mood boost.

I was hittin the gym and the orgasmic waves were awesome. I took a few tokes from cannabis hours later and I was not full tripping, but is not a microdose, is more than threshold dose (for me)

Very powerfull substance. Today I feel little grumpy, lets fix it with some good kratom.
 
Damn, you're lucky. 100ug is very underwhelming for me too, like barely above threshold. Though it's also underwhelming with LSD and any lysergamide I've ever tried even when I had only tripped once or twice (first times I tried LSD).
 
Ok so, today I took less, about 15min ago, 1/8, so its + o - 12,5ug 1p-LSD, lets see how it works today, because I found 25ug to high dose to stay on a daily basis.
 
1/8 still very active! MJ helps a lot to push it, but the feeling is obviously there. Are the blotters layed uniformly?

I feel near the same as 2 days ago. Gentle on the body, the music is so nice and a pleasure, the food is fantastic and omg the fruits. Orgasms are x10 more potent and you can feel it longer.
 
Xorkoth said:
Damn, you're lucky. 100ug is very underwhelming for me too, like barely above threshold. Though it's also underwhelming with LSD and any lysergamide I've ever tried even when I had only tripped once or twice (first times I tried LSD).
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How steep is the response-curve for you when you go up to 200 or 300 mcg?

My few previous experiences with LSD and AL-LAD have all been kind of underwhelming, which has led me to believe I might have a high natural tolerance to the lysergamides like you describe.

I will probably get my hands on some 1P-LSD soon and since I don't have that many opportunities to trip in the near future, I'd rather not waste one with an underwhelming experience. On the other hand it would be really kind of stupid to use more than one standard dose for the first try. Decisions, decisions...
 
Not very, I have never experienced a steep dose-response curve from lysergamides. 300ug is pretty strong but it seems linearally stronger.

Still probably best to start with 1 as it seems some people metabolize this differently and find it to be stronger than LSD. For me, I find it to be a little weaker.
 
tokezu - I think it would be pretty safe to dose a single blotter and then re-dose with another half at around 90 mins in if you felt like you wanted a little more.

Redosing can be a bit tricky - I always hear stories that go like this "I took a tab .. and NOTHING happened. I thought it was bunk so I took another. As soon as I put the tab in my mouth BOOM I was tripping serious balls [because the first tab hit] and it was too late to un-take the second one". That's what you can risk taking it too early. Taking it too late, like say 4h in, the risk is that tolerance is already kicking in, so the extra drug doesn't do anything but keep you up an extra 4h.

Thats why I say if you're going to re-dose, do it around 90-120 mins in, and don't double your dose, just take a bit more. If that's still too weak, take more next time.
 
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