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The Big and Dandy Scale Thread (First wave - archived 10-31-07)

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nanobrain said:
your value system, while unfortunately not unique, is in diametric opposition to the founding principle of this forum which i believe is still harm reduction?
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Some people just don't get it, and don't think safety is worth a few hundred USD.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Anyone experimenting with pure psychedelic compounds that are fully active at a few tens of milligrams should be using a milligram scale. Anything other than that is stupidity and anyone who believes differently is foolhearty at best and downright dangerous at worst.
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Oh, absolutely... it's amazing though how many people forget that not every RC is a potent psychedelic. Psychonauts are so narrow & self-centered... generally the more open-minded they believe themselves to be, the more closed-minded they are.

P.S. re: harm reduction -- I won't even bother to reply, as I've posted more harm reduction related threads and researched the topic more than any given fifty people here.
 
MDPVagrant said:
Oh, absolutely... it's amazing though how many people forget that not every RC is a potent psychedelic. Psychonauts are so narrow & self-centered... generally the more open-minded they believe themselves to be, the more closed-minded they are.

P.S. re: harm reduction -- I won't even bother to reply, as I've posted more harm reduction related threads and researched the topic more than any given fifty people here.
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The point of this board is harm reduction. That is agreed upon when you join the forum and agree to the BLUA. If we didn't say to use a sensitive scale, we wouldn't be completing that goal. And I think it's a little silly of you to claim that you have posted more harm reduction and researched the topic more than any 50 of us here. That's outrageous. I doubt you've researched the topic or posted more than quite a number of us here. You've only been here for 3 months and you only have 208 posts. 8)

maddmac101 said:
Yeah I obviously wasn't going to take the time to post anything after, I just posted that to sound nice I guess. You think I would say anything about a source.. fuck no...what made you think that bro? Either way, every single person in this thread posted their experience with the drug anyway, so I dunno if even you know what you meant. So you don't have be an asshole. I meant an experience not anything about delievery...I dunno how you got that...close minded thinking maybe. (I came to this thread with a few good questions, yet I get the almighty shithead over here trolling the board...why post shit that you know is not going to help me...)
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Um, you did post about sources when you explained in detail all about the delivery of your chemicals. nanobrain wasn't being an asshole, he was just informing you of the rules that you agreed to when you joined this board. We're not obliged to help you.

Now let's talk about methylone and quit derailing this thread with bullshit.
 
MDPVagrant said:
Oh, absolutely... it's amazing though how many people forget that not every RC is a potent psychedelic. Psychonauts are so narrow & self-centered... generally the more open-minded they believe themselves to be, the more closed-minded they are.

P.S. re: harm reduction -- I won't even bother to reply, as I've posted more harm reduction related threads and researched the topic more than any given fifty people here.
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MDPVagrant - while I have enjoyed reading a number of your posts, I find what you are writing here totally preposterous and presumptuous, and I will in the future be looking at your posts with this in mind, if I will bother looking at all. MGS is right, and while stuff like M1 can be easily eyeballed, MDPV is certainly a different league... while it is not a psychedelic, it is highly active and not to be taken without knowing how much you are taking. Recipe for disaster. Eyeballing any chemical that's active at under 20mg I consider to be irresponsible - well, ok perhaps if you have a known amount and it is small, say, 100mg, and the chem's common dose is 8-15mg or something... all right, go for it. But still, a scale is preferable.

Bottom line: if you got money to buy the drugs, you got money to get the scale. If you don't, get your drugs ONLY of trusted close ones who DO have a scale and let them weigh it for you. Really.
 
My milligram scale only cost $70 with shipping. I won't weigh things like DOXs with it, but for everything else it works just fine. If you can't afford $70, then I don't know how you're getting all that MDPV.
 
Same here, a good scale that is +/- 2mg is quite accurate enough for dosages over 25mg I'd say....and for anything under I use liquid measurement. Anyways...it is worth it for the confidence that what I have ingested is actually the amount I want to ingest.

I can say I honestly do not enjoy reading your posts MDPVagrant, they give me a very uneasy feeling. I hope no one else is following in the example you are putting off...and I hope you are aware of the danger dessiminating ideas like you have...

Take care.
 
I've been trying to find out if any of my friends have a scale. I'm taking the good and responsible route here in refusing to indulge said substance without measurement. I also am not going to buy any scales for a one time thing. I'll never use the thing again. I honestly don't know what to do.
 
I've been trying to find out if any of my friends have a scale.
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I highly DOUBT any of your friends will have a milligram accurate scale, unless your friends are experienced researchers (we'll assume they're not).

They might have a scale for weed that weighs out to the nearest tenth of a gram, but that is not nearly accurate enough for the kind of measurements you need. You need a scale that is accurate to .001g/1 milligram.
 
10 X .001 Gram Digital Gem Diamond Pocket Scale.

From that famous auction site. Sound good? I'm not 100% sure if that's what I'm looking for...thanks in advance.
 
Yeah... see my response in the other thread. basically, it'll work, especially for methylone, but for anything more potent you will need to meaure out larger doses and dissolve them in liquid so you can use the liquid measurement method to accurately dose.
 
Yeah thanks...I will only be using it this one time...I have no intent on using any other RC's ever.
 
Lost access to good scales (friend moved away) and I am thinking of trying some exotic compounds that dose between 15-25mg again some time in the future. I want these dosages to be exact ofcourse, but really don't have much money to spare so I've been looking on eBay and noticed prices have gomne down a fair bit since I last looked.

I think 0.001g scales (in the past had access to 100ug scales but were only really good for showing in ~500ug increacments) will do the trick but I am wondering if anybody has used those cheap ones always sold on ebay and if they are good enough ? I will not be weighing things like DOC or DOB, and if I'm weighing anything it would be for chems such as 2c-i, 2c-e etc.

Here is an example of one of these way too cheap to be true scales:

Cheap scales

Or there are other unbranded type ones that are a bit dearer but all seem to be .001g


Edit: seems to be the same as the one above, just different logo/branding.
 
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i just ordered one of those cheapy mg scales off ebay a few weeks ago, though it has yet to arrive. slow ass shipping!

but when it comes ill test it out and let you all know how it is... im actually thinking already that i might just have to put down 200 to get a decent mg scale.. ive been looking for a "tanita" mg scale, but havent been able to find one. only .002 is the lowest. anyone got a link?
 
My cheap scale from eBay was about $70 with shipping, and it's a .001g scale (milligram). It fluctuates somewhat, but I have over time discovered how to get a consistent reading to the milligram. When I use very potent chemicals like a DOX, I always make sure to weigh out a good 40 or 50mg and dissolve it into water/alcohol. For almost everything else, I just weigh the powders. Works great!

It's a JPrecision.
 
It was a JPrecision .001g "gemological" scale. I don't know if it hs a model number or anything, and now I'm at work, but last night when I made my post from home I looked all over it and its box and couldn't find any more information. It can weigh in grams, carats, and I think some other unit.

Oh, and the scale you linked to is not recommended, because of this:

The Flipscale F2 - 125 is one of the smallest digital scales on earth. Even though it's only 2¼ inches wide and 3¼ inches long, it has a huge 125 grams weigh capacity with 0.05g accuracy.
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That is totally unacceptable accuracy for a digital scale used to measure potent drugs. A .05g accuracy means it measures in 50mg intervals. Needless to say, the accuracy would be very low for that, and the margin of error would be +- 50mg at least!

Well, unless you only need it for marijuana or something. But I assume that's not true since you're posting it here in PD. I wouldn't even measure methylone with that scale, due to the high margin of error and ability to only measure in 50mg intervals.
 
Thanks Xorkoth.

I think I'm going to buy it because I'm only doing Salvia and other herbage now and I think 0.05g accuracy should be sufficient.

If I ever get a handle on some of the stuff you guys talk about, I bookmarked your suggested scale.

By the way - I'm in my 40's and a lot of stuff I've never heard of - especially the "numbers" substances I see.

I have a lot to learn, but I would appreciate any information on getting some legal good stuff to play with that maybe wasn't as harsh as Salvia can sometimes be.
 
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