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The Big and Dandy LSD/Acid Questions Thread III- 'The Bicycle Trip'

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SomeKindaLove said:
^ not a good idea. It's possible that it could knock you out, but the z-drugs are also known for causing people to black out and do things, not remember them, and so on, and cause strange patterns of thought (also visuals) ... I could see this being a bad combo with psychedelics, particularly if you're already having a bad trip.

Very true, every time I have taken Ambien at the end of my trip, or near end, I trip a LOT harder, and its fucking CONFUSING as hell, you wont be able to sleep that well either, I have woken up twice after taking ambien after lsd and woke up like saying shit and not knowing what is going on, like horrible mind loops, along with crazy visuals too. Benzos on the other hand, xanax particularly works wonders, just dont over do it.
 
psychedelicious said:
You'll likely be presentable by hour 8, though if you get something like DOB or DOI instead of LSD, it will be quite a bit longer until you are not tripping.

Man, eight hours... that's a long time to be gone on a trail that isn't that long. I hope that my parents won't mind us being gone that long. If we really have to, would it be okay to come home after six hours or so?

And in the case that we do get a DOx compound, could we avoid the parents and be okay? What do we do?
 
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B9 said:
^ Aye probably if you take the other eight you oughtn't to be let down too badly tho.

Do not take eight trips - BLUA suggests it's wise for me to iterate this point

I don't know what BLUA stands for. :\
 
TheAppleCore said:
Man, eight hours... that's a long time to be gone on a trail that isn't that long. I hope that my parents won't mind us being gone that long. If we really have to, would it be okay to come home after six hours or so?

And in the case that we do get a DOx compound, could we avoid the parents and be okay? What do we do?

No, you will be tripping balls if you get a DOx, you could just make something up if you come home a little later like that you stopped to get food and the restaurant was packed or something. I dunno what other advice to give, but at hour 6 you will most likely still be tripping pretty decently`
 
GratefulFloyd said:
No, you will be tripping balls if you get a DOx, you could just make something up if you come home a little later like that you stopped to get food and the restaurant was packed or something. I dunno what other advice to give, but at hour 6 you will most likely still be tripping pretty decently`

Thanks for the advice, man....

but I'm FUCKED anyway. Fucking dad ruined it for me. He will not allow me to go on a hike with any of my friends because he's so fucking paranoid about us using drugs. He's just "looking out for my best interest". 8) I'm just gonna do it anyway, but in a less safe set & setting.

I absolutely hate this shit. :(

So anyways, taking my current situation into consideration, what do you think I should do? Just trip while meditating in my room with the lights out at night?
 
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Acid and splitting the dose

Has anyone experimented with taking acid in two doses rather than taking it all in one? Recently been finding that taking a low dose first and then 4 or 5 hours later when you're righteously mellow taking the second - perhaps twice as much as the first dose.

If you take the second dose you can get to a pleasant high-dose type spot in acid-land without the intense "mind being blowtorched" sensation that taking a big dose straightaway can sometimes give you.

Merely a suggestion.
 
interesting.

perhaps I will suggest this to a friend for a first time tripping. May be a good way to ease them in.

It seems a long delay...disanalagous to sipping a cup containing 2Cx over the course of an hour (which is very effective at providing a smooth transition from sobriety to tripping land). But somewhat of the same idea.

A similar idea also (which I do quite often) is to take a small bump of ketamine or a small toke of DMT to loosen up your body and mind. Then dose on the psychedelic. This helps the transition a lot I've found.
 
Yeah samadhi. I'm wondering about how long to time the delay. I'm just worried that if you only leave 2 or 3 hours before taking the second dose and then find after 4 or 5 hours that it's hit you harder than you were expecting it you might end up out of your depth.

Maybe that post-peak mellow frame of mind after the first dose is the best position to start from with the second bigger dose? At least you're not panicked and for some reason the second dose doesn't seem to tear your world apart like the first dose sometimes can.
 
how big is the initial dose roughly? I was imagining something small like 25ug - enough to make you feel it and put you in that positive acid mindframe, but not enough to get you seeing distortions or anything.
 
I've found such a thing Ismene, though I couldn't give you a time frame. Its enjoyable to redose LSD I find; while tolerance is an issue, its easily corrected with more LSD and as said, you never really enter the headfuck space, even though you may end up on a very high dose....

Merged in Ismenes LSD redosing question :)
 
Initial dose would need to be something you feel comfortable with - I find about 75-100ug quite comfortable.

I will report back with furthur experiments in this area later ;)
 
TheAppleCore said:
Thanks for the advice, man....

but I'm FUCKED anyway. Fucking dad ruined it for me. He will not allow me to go on a hike with any of my friends because he's so fucking paranoid about us using drugs. .........

So anyways, taking my current situation into consideration, what do you think I should do? Just trip while meditating in my room with the lights out at night?
Not if your dad's likely to be around for anything less than 9 hours after you drop 8o

Sounds like you need to wait until you get a safe space/place. Acid at a reasonable dose is not something to be taken lightly. You will have no idea what dose you have unless you know the manufacturer/layer. And even then different people have different reactions to similar doses.

Patience will bring it's rewards. Wrap it up securely, preferably airtight, and stash in a freezer (not your dad's ;) )
 
EntheoDjinn said:
Not if your dad's likely to be around for anything less than 9 hours after you drop 8o

Sounds like you need to wait until you get a safe space/place. Acid at a reasonable dose is not something to be taken lightly. You will have no idea what dose you have unless you know the manufacturer/layer. And even then different people have different reactions to similar doses.

Patience will bring it's rewards. Wrap it up securely, preferably airtight, and stash in a freezer (not your dad's ;) )

Thanks for the advice man. I think I'm all set, though. I think that tripping in bed with the lights out sounds really perfect, it'll give me the ability to have a very introspective trip without external sensory distractions. My dad won't come anywhere near my room, he'll think I'm sleeping, so that's not an issue... unless during my trip I decide to start yelling or something?

The guy who I got the acid from supposedly saw the liquid acid being dropped on the sweet tart. He said that two drops where given from an eyedropper. The laced sweet tart is supposed to have the equivalent of two good blotter hits on it.

Does it sound good, or do I really have to wait? I just can't see any better opportunity to drop coming up in a long time... parents simply refuse to leave me out of their presence for 9 hours straight. I can't believe that I'm almost 16 and I still have my parents constantly breathing down my neck like this...
 
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I think im getting some sugar cubes tommorow? Swallow or let it disolve? Under tounge?
 
TheAppleCore said:
Thanks for the advice man. I think I'm all set, though. I think that tripping in bed with the lights out sounds really perfect, it'll give me the ability to have a very introspective trip without external sensory distractions. My dad won't come anywhere near my room, he'll think I'm sleeping, so that's not an issue... unless during my trip I decide to start yelling or something?

The guy who I got the acid from supposedly saw the liquid acid being dropped on the sweet tart. He said that two drops where given from an eyedropper. The laced sweet tart is supposed to have the equivalent of two good blotter hits on it.

Does it sound good, or do I really have to wait? I just can't see any better opportunity to drop coming up in a long time... parents simply refuse to leave me out of their presence for 9 hours straight. I can't believe that I'm almost 16 and I still have my parents constantly breathing down my neck like this...

Do whatever feels comfortable to you man. If you feel like you're ready, then don't hesitate, if the situation's guaranteed to not bring about any problems. Anywhere from 100-200 micrograms (which is just a wild guess of what you might have), with a good mindset and setting, probably will make for a great, psychedelic time. I know a lot of people might tell you to back off altogether, because you're not even yet 16, but you're gonna do what you're gonna do, and no one at bluelight can really stop you, you know. Have fun with whatever happens.
 
Feels said:
Do whatever feels comfortable to you man. If you feel like you're ready, then don't hesitate, if the situation's guaranteed to not bring about any problems. Anywhere from 100-200 micrograms (which is just a wild guess of what you might have), with a good mindset and setting, probably will make for a great, psychedelic time. I know a lot of people might tell you to back off altogether, because you're not even yet 16, but you're gonna do what you're gonna do, and no one at bluelight can really stop you, you know. Have fun with whatever happens.

Thanks man. Yeah, I'm pretty much decided on this.

I'd definitely like to hear from anyone else who's done this though. Any of you trippers ever do a trip devoid of any outside sensory distractions?
 
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TheAppleCore said:
unless during my trip I decide to start yelling or something?

On acid I find that sometimes I really can't help but mumble words/laugh/sing/hum/make clickly noises with my tounge even if I'm not being that loud. But sometimes it just feels SO damn good to make audible the mind blowing experience that I'm having. haha. Also, I know exactly where you're coming from man, I used to feel that sometimes it felt like I had some of the most oppressive parents on the face of the planet - constantly checking up on me, always questioning me, etc. However, I've tripped many a time in my room after hours while they were home.

One thing I'd like to point out is that it definitely takes a lot of practice and patience to not get anxious about the fact that you think that they know what you're up to. In my personal opinion, it's a million times harder to 'let go' when parents are around.

TheAppleCore said:
Any of you trippers ever do a trip devoid of any outside sensory distractions?

Yes - and all of mine have been extremely powerful. Just remember, you can't really prepare for the power and overall intensity of the psychedelic experience that you're about to partake in. Respect the experience, and it will pour its blessings and baskets of goodness upon you.

Good vibes and good luck!

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^ what my cyber vibes look like :)

recons said:
I think im getting some sugar cubes tommorow? Swallow or let it disolve? Under tounge?

Just got some of these little gems last week. I let mine dissolve under my tongue and before I knew it I was offfffffffffffff.
 
recons said:
I think im getting some sugar cubes tommorow? Swallow or let it disolve? Under tounge?

No need to put them under your tongue. This will probably just be uncomfortable as they aren't really small like a tab. Just chuck em in your mouth and let dissolve, works fine everytime for me. Its absorbed through the mucous membranes anywhere in the mouth, and that which isn't is obviously swallowed so just suck on it like its a lolly.
 
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